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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
December 27 2015 18:00 GMT
#161
On December 28 2015 02:53 nanaoei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:42 Thouhastmail wrote:
Well. At least Boxer was more popular than most of celebrities.

Anyway, Korean schools do not have prom; students do not dance at all, because there's no sort of activities that are related with dancing.


sorry, it's just a figure of speech or w/e here. it just means to ask them out for an occaision/date/w/e
anyway, i'll just remove it since it detracts from the point


Interesting. I spent my secondary-school days in Brisbane, but never heard of it.

Anyway, I do agree with your opinion.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
December 27 2015 18:00 GMT
#162
Oh that's very bad
ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
December 27 2015 18:02 GMT
#163
Waiting for Afreeca stream. One day Jaedong will retire and another ensnere will crash into FanTaSy marines. Ah, what a game.
Mine more minerals.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 18:10:14
December 27 2015 18:08 GMT
#164
Oh God, again, the drama-crowd desperately trying to get attention...

How is that retirement a surprise or telling for the state of SC2? Compared to his past successes, Fantasy has been one of the least successful players for years. How much longer should he try to break through? Till he´s thirty? The man´s gotta think of his future, not because SC2 or esports has no future, but because he has none in it. We don´t know if anybody will ever have, esports is too young to tell whether a life-time career is even possible.

People just have to accept that pro-gaming in general is a thing you do while you´re young, like so many other sports, too. And then, some earlier, some later, you have to change your priorities, get a degree, get a job, build a future. And then new kids come around to take their places. There´s no shame in that.

So, instead of drooling of dead-game-prophecies and SC2-BW-dick-comparisons people should wish him the best and enjoy the games of the next generation of Flashs and Rains.
lelfreg
Profile Joined December 2014
92 Posts
December 27 2015 18:14 GMT
#165
On December 28 2015 03:08 Daswollvieh wrote:

enjoy the games of the next generation of Flashs and Rains.


Except we don't have new generation. And with the new WCS system Blizzard made sure there won't be.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 27 2015 18:14 GMT
#166
And WCS Welfare claims another victim
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
December 27 2015 18:15 GMT
#167
Oh for fuck sake...not another retirement :`(

I wish you all the best in your future endeavours, FanTaSy
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 27 2015 18:15 GMT
#168
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 27 2015 18:17 GMT
#169
On December 28 2015 03:15 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?


Banned by KeSPA, can't travel to foriegn tournaments any more thanks to the region lock. You tell me genius
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 18:27:54
December 27 2015 18:22 GMT
#170
On December 28 2015 03:17 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:15 Ansibled wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?


Banned by KeSPA, can't travel to foriegn tournaments any more thanks to the region lock. You tell me genius

I'm pretty sure he's not banned from competing in GSL, StarLeague, or other Korean tournaments.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 27 2015 18:30 GMT
#171
On December 28 2015 03:17 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:15 Ansibled wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?


Banned by KeSPA, can't travel to foriegn tournaments any more thanks to the region lock. You tell me genius


So what you are really saying is that KeSPA has claimed another victum.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 27 2015 18:31 GMT
#172
On December 28 2015 03:14 lelfreg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:08 Daswollvieh wrote:

enjoy the games of the next generation of Flashs and Rains.


Except we don't have new generation. And with the new WCS system Blizzard made sure there won't be.


There are still plenty of progamers, some of which will come out on top of the others.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
December 27 2015 18:34 GMT
#173
It's just pretty logical to retire as a new expansion comes out, really, just like how people retire after the WCS circuit is over for a year.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
December 27 2015 18:36 GMT
#174
Thanks for the memories Fantasy
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
December 27 2015 18:41 GMT
#175
Well deserved retirement.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#176
On December 28 2015 03:22 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:17 showstealer1829 wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:15 Ansibled wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?


Banned by KeSPA, can't travel to foriegn tournaments any more thanks to the region lock. You tell me genius

I'm pretty sure he's not banned from competing in GSL, StarLeague, or other Korean tournaments.


There are only 2 seasons of each. He already failed to qualify for the first season for both (I know GSL still has qualifiers and Code A, it seems he already gave up after SSL qualifiers). That means he has nothing to do until the end of season one and then try one final time before blizzcon.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
December 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#177
On December 28 2015 02:01 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:13 Poopi wrote:
Why are they banned from Kespa?

On topic:
fuck why all terrans stopping just make some z/p retire (except Jaedong he is a legend so we need to keep him) already.
80% of GM EU terrans are in the 170-200 range, almost no terran left to look up to.


Skillwise there are enough left, but LOTV isn't balanced yet or the meta hasn't evolved enough. Therefore you can get cheesed down as terran, since terran play is much more preditable then for instance protoss play. It will take some time to figure the game out. Its like 2014 again, when no terran besides taeja and flash won premier tournaments and 90% of the wins were toss or zerg. This will be the case for the next 12-18 monts again, and then either the meta evolves finally or blizzard agrees that there have to be some changes.


Actually, in 2014 Terran won 12 premier tournaments and Protoss won 15. Terran had 13 second place finishers, and Protoss had 13 as well. Zerg won 8 with 9 second place finishers. So to say that 90% of the tournaments were won by the two other races is completely false because two races should win more than one race, and Terran won three less than Protoss.

It is sad that Fantasy is retiring especially sense this year was a very good one for him, but he's been doing this for so long, and many pros do not make it as long as he did. And for those who whine about the WCS system, Blizz has changed it every single year since 2012.....if something's wrong with this system, I suspect they'll change it as well. I imagine the region lock is to foster growth in the foreign scene. Cause right now, it's tough getting into the foreign scene knowing that there is not the system in place like it is in Korea.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
December 27 2015 18:43 GMT
#178
First, Little Monster; now, FanTaSy

Nothing lasts forever, alas.

Thanks for the memories Fantasy

Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 18:51:55
December 27 2015 18:49 GMT
#179
On December 28 2015 03:42 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:22 Ansibled wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:17 showstealer1829 wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:15 Ansibled wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:14 showstealer1829 wrote:
And WCS Welfare claims another victim

By what logic is the WCS change responsible for this?


Banned by KeSPA, can't travel to foriegn tournaments any more thanks to the region lock. You tell me genius

I'm pretty sure he's not banned from competing in GSL, StarLeague, or other Korean tournaments.


There are only 2 seasons of each. He already failed to qualify for the first season for both (I know GSL still has qualifiers and Code A, it seems he already gave up after SSL qualifiers). That means he has nothing to do until the end of season one and then try one final time before blizzcon.

He could equally have failed to qualify for IEMs etc, he still has GSL and it pays more now. We also know KeSPA cup will be at some point.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
December 27 2015 18:52 GMT
#180
Another of all time greats gone :C TY fantasy for everything
Zileas is my Homeboy
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