You're making me upset.

Personally I wish FanTaSy the best in whatever he does, but hopefully he'll join BeSt and Bisu and start streaming some Broodwar as he was the player who got me interested in Starcraft in the first place.

Shame he retired from SC2 the second I got back into it wanting to support him, but I can't hate on FanTaSy ever. He'll always be the Prince of Terran to me <3

BigFan

TLADT24920 Posts

December 27 2015 16:45 GMT

#127

Unexpected news seeing as we had both Flash and Rain retire just the other day. Given, last I checked, Fantasy wasn't doing the best in HoTS about a year ago so who knows. Maybe he thinks it's best to move on with the current status of the scene? One thing is for sure though, SCII suffered a big blow with all these retirements in the last couple of weeks.

On December 28 2015 01:41 purakushi wrote:
Here's to hoping he streams BW! I'm sure, if not outright stream, he will play some.

If history has showed us anything, it's that a lot of player state that they are interested in going to do their military service but end up streaming for years prior to that with several exceptions lol.

TRaFFiC

Canada1448 Posts

December 27 2015 16:49 GMT

#128

Perhaps you could blame wcs but to me it seems it goes like this. Leave kespa team > join foreign team > win foreign tournaments > skill decline > retire.

Didn't know him, but I can respect anyone who put as much into the game as he did.

I'm not worried. Fresh blood will come out of KR.

fronkschnonk

Germany622 Posts

December 27 2015 16:50 GMT

#129

Sad thing as always when someone is retiring. I hope he has a nice future.

For all the "no terran anymore"-guys:
We still have Inno, Maru, Byun, Reality, TY, Gumiho, Bunny, Dream, Bbyong, Jjakji, Forte, Sorry, Cure, Bravo, alive, Journey... there is enough greatness still there and even more potential for that. Retirements are sad, but holes will be filled.

waiting2Bbanned

United States154 Posts

December 27 2015 16:54 GMT

#130

IMO the issue is not as much about these retirements, but about how hard the new rules will make for up-and-coming players to take their place; with the new rules and lack of korean tourneys young players will give up a progamer career. To me those retirements seem more important, even though they won't be high profile and talked about, they will impact the future of SC2 korean scene immensely in the long run.
If that was Blizz' plan, then GG I guess..

Rollora

2450 Posts

December 27 2015 16:56 GMT

#131

On December 27 2015 23:29 InFluenza wrote:
Not surprised at all. Also sad that he was never able to get a title.

that is SC2 for you man.
too much possible cheese. you can be the best or one of them, still don't get a title.

Rollora

2450 Posts

December 27 2015 16:57 GMT

#132

On December 27 2015 23:43 Finnz wrote:
Another one? Bomber, Taeja, ForGG all due to retire soon as well, this is sad

Nah! Taeja will never retire.
As will MVP

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

December 27 2015 16:58 GMT

#133

Best of luck Fantasy!

EatingBomber

1017 Posts

December 27 2015 17:01 GMT

#134

On December 28 2015 01:49 TRaFFiC wrote:
Perhaps you could blame wcs but to me it seems it goes like this. Leave kespa team > join foreign team > win foreign tournaments > skill decline > retire.

Didn't know him, but I can respect anyone who put as much into the game as he did.

I'm not worried. Fresh blood will come out of KR.

I think your optimism is misplaced. We have had so many prominent, or at least historically significant players retire this year, and almost no rising stars, and you still think the Korean scene is healthy? The last new, dominant player that arose from Korea was... Solar? Or maybe Dream? But they have been playing since 2013 and 2011 respectively. The truth is, the Korean scene is atrophying at an alarming rate, and there aren't any transfusions incoming.

Rollora

2450 Posts

December 27 2015 17:01 GMT

#135

On December 28 2015 00:13 Poopi wrote:
Why are they banned from Kespa?

On topic:
fuck why all terrans stopping

just make some z/p retire (except Jaedong he is a legend so we need to keep him) already.
80% of GM EU terrans are in the 170-200 range, almost no terran left to look up to.

Skillwise there are enough left, but LOTV isn't balanced yet or the meta hasn't evolved enough. Therefore you can get cheesed down as terran, since terran play is much more preditable then for instance protoss play. It will take some time to figure the game out. Its like 2014 again, when no terran besides taeja and flash won premier tournaments and 90% of the wins were toss or zerg. This will be the case for the next 12-18 monts again, and then either the meta evolves finally or blizzard agrees that there have to be some changes.

Thouhastmail

Korea (North)876 Posts

December 27 2015 17:09 GMT

#136

On December 28 2015 01:45 BigFan wrote:
Unexpected news seeing as we had both Flash and Rain retire just the other day. Given, last I checked, Fantasy wasn't doing the best in HoTS about a year ago so who knows. Maybe he thinks it's best to move on with the current status of the scene? One thing is for sure though, SCII suffered a big blow with all these retirements in the last couple of weeks.

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ZodaSoda

Australia1191 Posts

December 27 2015 17:12 GMT

#137

Its amusing watching people freak out about the ton of retirements when they happen, but literally the same people say Korea is hard to compete in its too Saturated.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

December 27 2015 17:13 GMT

#138

I'm really confused why people are so quick to blame WCS changes for retirements. The increased prize pool for Korean tournaments next year means he would be doing better I think... it's at least pretty close.

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