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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
December 27 2015 16:04 GMT
#101
On December 28 2015 00:27 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 23:51 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 27 2015 23:42 sAsImre wrote:
On December 27 2015 23:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
holy shit, what the fuck is going on.


2016 WCS


First stage of political grief: use the situation to say what you were going to say anyway


lol. Nice accusation, I didn't said anything for Rain but this is so obvious even without insider info.


Here are a few propositions:

- Blizzard: region lock limits possibilities for korean players.
- DH and IEM: they likely didn't want to have much SC2 in their events anymore, which was a big part of WCS changing.
- Community in 2013: having strong voices arguing for a region lock likely had some influence in it being implemented.
- North Korea: he has to do military service.
- SKT1 contract: he could have played for other proleague teams if it wasn't for that.
- SKT1: he could play for SKT1 again, except it appears there are frictions there.
- Fantasy: he could have stayed in Kespa instead of going for the foreign tournaments. If you remember, the people who did what he did in 2013 were heavily criticized for taking the easy route (Pigbaby, Check2, people on TB's team, and so on).
- LotV: he doesn't seem to enjoy tankivacs, which are pretty important in this game.
- Results: he hasn't been very successful in SC2.

Out of all factors that may or may not have led to his retirement, does it surprise you that you focused on the one thing you were already critical against?
No will to live, no wish to die
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
December 27 2015 16:04 GMT
#102
congrats on retiring.

i remember your game where it came down to 1 banshee w/ cloak and a couple ingame seconds left before being out of energy, exposed, and slaughtered by a huge broodlord corruptor army.
but it was enough for you to win and watching you sit in the booth gave a lot of us a sense of confidence in ourselves.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 27 2015 16:05 GMT
#103
On December 28 2015 00:28 Vortun wrote:
This wave of retirements is sad, but not at all unexpected after what Blizzard did with WCS 2016.


I fail to see how this has anything to do with WCS 2016. MMA could still play in Europe and Flash and Rain had already made up their minds.

There's still plenty of tournaments in Korea with Kespa Cup, SSL, GSL and Proleague.

Fantasy being unable to play in Proleague has nothing to do with Blizzard, rather he himself screwed up. It is not Blizzards job to tailor a tournament circuit to the needs of a few players who chose to breach a contract with a Korean team.
sh0ck
Profile Joined December 2015
United States52 Posts
December 27 2015 16:07 GMT
#104
Gahh, this hurts. Was a huge fan of the 2014 SKT-exile group. Rain and Fanta are gone now, Parting and Soulkey are left but who knows how long they'll stay with the new WCS rules?

I mean, these players have to retire and move on at some point. We like to blame the WCS system, but chances are they'd be retiring soon anyway and the combination of a brand new game to grind and horrible WCS rules probably made the decision easy for them (not to disregard the other factors in Rain's decision).

Still sad, but let's be happy for what they accomplished and glad that they stayed with us as long as they did. All good things come to an end, and we were blessed with some pretty sweet times from these titans.
Farewell, Three Musketeers - Flash, Rain, FanTaSy
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
December 27 2015 16:07 GMT
#105
Seeker, can you translate this part please?

+ Show Spoiler +
- 군입대한다고 하는데 정확한 계획은 있는지. 스타1을 할 생각인가
▶ 내년 쯤에 군에 입대할 생각이다. 가기 전에는 무엇을 할지는 모르겠다. 지금 영어 공부를 하고 있다. 스타1을 할지는 잘 모르겠다.


It seems this part is related to BW.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 16:10:39
December 27 2015 16:09 GMT
#106
Man, I thought all these progamers would own up Legacy for a few years, being the last expansion. Guess I was wrong.

Good luck pantaji.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 27 2015 16:09 GMT
#107
Is there a word in English to describe something that is very sad but was expected?
Anyways, he was a great player and it's a bit sad that he never got better results in SC2.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 27 2015 16:09 GMT
#108
Wow, just... meh...

Good bye, Terrorist terran, your vultures will be remembered.
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Skyblueone
Profile Joined June 2012
Belgium155 Posts
December 27 2015 16:10 GMT
#109
GJ DK
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 27 2015 16:10 GMT
#110
On December 28 2015 01:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Is there a word in English to describe something that is very sad but was expected?

GPA
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
December 27 2015 16:11 GMT
#111
On December 28 2015 01:07 WrathSCII wrote:
Seeker, can you translate this part please?

+ Show Spoiler +
- 군입대한다고 하는데 정확한 계획은 있는지. 스타1을 할 생각인가
▶ 내년 쯤에 군에 입대할 생각이다. 가기 전에는 무엇을 할지는 모르겠다. 지금 영어 공부를 하고 있다. 스타1을 할지는 잘 모르겠다.


It seems this part is related to BW.


I'm gonna do my military service early next year. I have no particular plans; I do not know whether I would stream BW.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
December 27 2015 16:13 GMT
#112
On December 28 2015 01:11 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 01:07 WrathSCII wrote:
Seeker, can you translate this part please?

+ Show Spoiler +
- 군입대한다고 하는데 정확한 계획은 있는지. 스타1을 할 생각인가
▶ 내년 쯤에 군에 입대할 생각이다. 가기 전에는 무엇을 할지는 모르겠다. 지금 영어 공부를 하고 있다. 스타1을 할지는 잘 모르겠다.


It seems this part is related to BW.


I'm gonna do my military service early next year. I have no particular plans; I do not know whether I would stream BW.


Thanks!

Ouch.. Please delay it a year or two and stream some BW
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 27 2015 16:13 GMT
#113
The biggest problem is that the last replacement was solar.
Korea's bleeding heavily but it didn't concern at all the people designing wcs.
The only healthy region looks to be Europe with some strong national scenes
Zest fanboy.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
December 27 2015 16:14 GMT
#114
On December 28 2015 01:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Is there a word in English to describe something that is very sad but was expected?
Anyways, he was a great player and it's a bit sad that he never got better results in SC2.


désillution
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
sh0ck
Profile Joined December 2015
United States52 Posts
December 27 2015 16:14 GMT
#115
On December 28 2015 00:23 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:18 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:16 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:13 Poopi wrote:
Why are they banned from Kespa?

On topic:
fuck why all terrans stopping just make some z/p retire (except Jaedong he is a legend so we need to keep him) already.
80% of GM EU terrans are in the 170-200 range, almost no terran left to look up to.


Rain, Parting, Fantasy and Soulkey all 'broke their contracts' and left SKT too early which means they're banned from Proleague. At the time I think I read that there was some friction in the team between staff and the banned players which is why they decided to break their contracts.



are you sure they are banned? according to this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471157-parting-unable-to-play-in-2015-proleague it seems they just have to return to SKT that is if SKT wants them. Maybe there was another update im missing.

Yes, they can only play for SKT, but apparently some shit went down which is why they left and why they are being punished for it, so I really doubt SKT would take them back. I may be wrong but I think SKT wanted to avoid drama because none of the players really elaborated on why they broke their contract, but apparently Rain did touch on some of the rumours: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2irs5r/rain_partially_confirms_that_frictions_between/.

Did that article ever get translated? Would be really interested to read about the friction between oov and Rain/Parting/Fanta/Soulkey.
Farewell, Three Musketeers - Flash, Rain, FanTaSy
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
December 27 2015 16:18 GMT
#116
A long career and don't forget nobody repeated the BE successes on SC2. Fantasy did better than a lot of other legends (think about Bisu or JangBi).

GG!
Adun toridas!
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
December 27 2015 16:20 GMT
#117
....
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
December 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#118
Fantasy, you were my favorite player and I rooted for you. I started rooting for SKT because of the creativity you brought in your very first osl run. I really cheered for you all the way through, down to this last blizzcon (just being at blizzcon shows you did succeed in sc2 and should be proud). Of course, I believe you were the best player at the end of bw (no one would even question this if jangbi didn't grab those osls :/)

I wish you well in all that you do.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 27 2015 16:23 GMT
#119
hehehehe, more players back to Brood War!!!!!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
December 27 2015 16:25 GMT
#120
Where are all there terran going ?????

I'm so sad ...
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