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On December 13 2015 17:31 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 17:12 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 15:36 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 15:05 zergggg wrote: jakamakala is literally the most bm player ever. if you take him i swear you are dooming you show to irrelevance. i was a lurker on liquipedia but i made an account just to point out how ridiculous his bm is. the guy has some smug satisfaction out of being a bm shit. The dedication you are showing is remarkable, And that's what the mods like. Welcome to Teamliquid kiddo. Don't let the door hit you if they ban you for bashing a guy. Also could you post a replay of said BM, not calling you a lair or anything fwi. Just love good BM. He isn't wrong. I love BMing in game I find it fun. Some people take it personally though *shrug I'm pretty good about limiting my massive BM and shit talking to where it's appropriate though; generally in game and on Bnet forums. I'm quite tame on maegis forums and on TL. I like BM as well. Well at least you do it in Bnet and Sc2. Here you seem like a very nice and calm person. Do not know which one i like more.....
Yes believe it or not I follow the rules here :o I even published my HoTS ZvP guide here when I still played Zerg :c
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On December 13 2015 18:04 Jakamakala wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 17:31 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 17:12 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 15:36 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 15:05 zergggg wrote: jakamakala is literally the most bm player ever. if you take him i swear you are dooming you show to irrelevance. i was a lurker on liquipedia but i made an account just to point out how ridiculous his bm is. the guy has some smug satisfaction out of being a bm shit. The dedication you are showing is remarkable, And that's what the mods like. Welcome to Teamliquid kiddo. Don't let the door hit you if they ban you for bashing a guy. Also could you post a replay of said BM, not calling you a lair or anything fwi. Just love good BM. He isn't wrong. I love BMing in game I find it fun. Some people take it personally though *shrug I'm pretty good about limiting my massive BM and shit talking to where it's appropriate though; generally in game and on Bnet forums. I'm quite tame on maegis forums and on TL. I like BM as well. Well at least you do it in Bnet and Sc2. Here you seem like a very nice and calm person. Do not know which one i like more..... Yes believe it or not I follow the rules here :o I even published my HoTS ZvP guide here when I still played Zerg :c
Nothing wrong with helping the community. Off sets the negtive karma from BM.
I also used to Play Zerg..... Wasn't medically clear to play Z (or sc2) so I decided to take on a least intensive race and picked Terran. Mass Marines anyone?
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On December 13 2015 18:34 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 18:04 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 17:31 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 17:12 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 15:36 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 15:05 zergggg wrote: jakamakala is literally the most bm player ever. if you take him i swear you are dooming you show to irrelevance. i was a lurker on liquipedia but i made an account just to point out how ridiculous his bm is. the guy has some smug satisfaction out of being a bm shit. The dedication you are showing is remarkable, And that's what the mods like. Welcome to Teamliquid kiddo. Don't let the door hit you if they ban you for bashing a guy. Also could you post a replay of said BM, not calling you a lair or anything fwi. Just love good BM. He isn't wrong. I love BMing in game I find it fun. Some people take it personally though *shrug I'm pretty good about limiting my massive BM and shit talking to where it's appropriate though; generally in game and on Bnet forums. I'm quite tame on maegis forums and on TL. I like BM as well. Well at least you do it in Bnet and Sc2. Here you seem like a very nice and calm person. Do not know which one i like more..... Yes believe it or not I follow the rules here :o I even published my HoTS ZvP guide here when I still played Zerg :c Nothing wrong with helping the community. Off sets the negtive karma from BM. I also used to Play Zerg..... Wasn't medically clear to play Z (or sc2) so I decided to take on a least intensive race and picked Terran. Mass Marines anyone?
Point is people should learn to separate environments where people let loose and act like a fool and settings where they need to behave like here. Internet is really tricky and if people really think that people on the internet 100% represent their real life behavior then there's a problem with perception.
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This doesn't sound like the Day9 daily at all, but it could be just as good! Gl gl, hf.
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On December 13 2015 19:32 Jakamakala wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 18:34 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 18:04 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 17:31 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 17:12 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 15:36 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 15:05 zergggg wrote: jakamakala is literally the most bm player ever. if you take him i swear you are dooming you show to irrelevance. i was a lurker on liquipedia but i made an account just to point out how ridiculous his bm is. the guy has some smug satisfaction out of being a bm shit. The dedication you are showing is remarkable, And that's what the mods like. Welcome to Teamliquid kiddo. Don't let the door hit you if they ban you for bashing a guy. Also could you post a replay of said BM, not calling you a lair or anything fwi. Just love good BM. He isn't wrong. I love BMing in game I find it fun. Some people take it personally though *shrug I'm pretty good about limiting my massive BM and shit talking to where it's appropriate though; generally in game and on Bnet forums. I'm quite tame on maegis forums and on TL. I like BM as well. Well at least you do it in Bnet and Sc2. Here you seem like a very nice and calm person. Do not know which one i like more..... Yes believe it or not I follow the rules here :o I even published my HoTS ZvP guide here when I still played Zerg :c Nothing wrong with helping the community. Off sets the negtive karma from BM. I also used to Play Zerg..... Wasn't medically clear to play Z (or sc2) so I decided to take on a least intensive race and picked Terran. Mass Marines anyone? Point is people should learn to separate environments where people let loose and act like a fool and settings where they need to behave like here. Internet is really tricky and if people really think that people on the internet 100% represent their real life behavior then there's a problem with perception.
True that.
It would be like if everyone judge my little brother who has autism based off his behavior. It won't 100% represent what he might be normally.
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On December 13 2015 19:32 Jakamakala wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 18:34 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 18:04 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 17:31 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 17:12 Jakamakala wrote:On December 13 2015 15:36 Shapelog wrote:On December 13 2015 15:05 zergggg wrote: jakamakala is literally the most bm player ever. if you take him i swear you are dooming you show to irrelevance. i was a lurker on liquipedia but i made an account just to point out how ridiculous his bm is. the guy has some smug satisfaction out of being a bm shit. The dedication you are showing is remarkable, And that's what the mods like. Welcome to Teamliquid kiddo. Don't let the door hit you if they ban you for bashing a guy. Also could you post a replay of said BM, not calling you a lair or anything fwi. Just love good BM. He isn't wrong. I love BMing in game I find it fun. Some people take it personally though *shrug I'm pretty good about limiting my massive BM and shit talking to where it's appropriate though; generally in game and on Bnet forums. I'm quite tame on maegis forums and on TL. I like BM as well. Well at least you do it in Bnet and Sc2. Here you seem like a very nice and calm person. Do not know which one i like more..... Yes believe it or not I follow the rules here :o I even published my HoTS ZvP guide here when I still played Zerg :c Nothing wrong with helping the community. Off sets the negtive karma from BM. I also used to Play Zerg..... Wasn't medically clear to play Z (or sc2) so I decided to take on a least intensive race and picked Terran. Mass Marines anyone? Point is people should learn to separate environments where people let loose and act like a fool and settings where they need to behave like here. Internet is really tricky and if people really think that people on the internet 100% represent their real life behavior then there's a problem with perception. I would never say that someone shouldn't get a gig because of bm comments in game. Things get heated in competition and even the best of us crack. Those who deny it and seek blood of those who bm are the biggest culprits in disguise.
That said, many people play sc2 for 4-10 hours a day. It is just as "real" life as anything else. The seconds, minutes, and hours are ticking by. You shouldn't act like your words/actions don't affect people. And if you consistently are an asshole to people online, well, prepare for them not to like you.
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i am interested, i am a zerg player/caster for Psistorm gaming and i was also a caster for IvD back in the day
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Could we potentially bring back Funday Monday and Newbie Tuesday with this?
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Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT.
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And for me that started the show on the wrong foot. I would love to see people that really know about the game analysing it, instead of someone that spends 80% of playtime calling other people maphackers. Especially people that realize that if you are going bio you need marauders vs P because its ground is almost all armored and fighting vs T is a completely different animal. Yeah, its okay to have literally anyone comment and analyse a game but if you are serious about being an educational program, you need people that know what they're talking about
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Yeah it was very interesting seeing INnoVation new style of TvP. I wonder if Avilo is right and this will be the new meta.
It makes sense in a way. Marauders are worse then in Hots. But so are Colossus and immortals. Maybe Marine/Tank is the way to go. Being able to pick up tanks makes tanks significantly more useful compared to Hots.
But then again, if Protoss start doing Zealot/HT I am not sure Marine/Tank will work.
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On January 05 2016 22:34 MockHamill wrote: Yeah it was very interesting seeing INnoVation new style of TvP. I wonder if Avilo is right and this will be the new meta.
It makes sense in a way. Marauders are worse then in Hots. But so are Colossus and immortals. Maybe Marine/Tank is the way to go. Being able to pick up tanks makes tanks significantly more useful compared to Hots.
But then again, if Protoss start doing Zealot/HT I am not sure Marine/Tank will work. Avilo responded to that question by saying, that probably just counter to zealot/ht would be more liberators and hellbats, and ghosts that you build anyway. If protoss metagames back into more colossus, then terran can make few more marauders.
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On January 05 2016 22:01 GreenHealing wrote: Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT.
Avilo has a bad trackrecord when it comes to meta-predictions.
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On January 05 2016 22:56 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 22:01 GreenHealing wrote: Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT. Avilo has a bad trackrecord when it comes to meta-predictions.
I suppose you can back it up with examples. Right?! ..Right.
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On January 05 2016 22:01 GreenHealing wrote: Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT. How many people saw it? :-)
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I don't like Avilo's banters or baseless hack accusations on stream either but people are focusing too much on his persona(especially on reddit, this place is more level headed) It is an educational video for anyone below masters, or people like me who have not been playing for a long time.
This show is going to be an amazing source of information, thanks for your contributions to the scene lycan.
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On January 05 2016 23:42 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 22:01 GreenHealing wrote: Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT. How many people saw it? :-)
Not being listed on TL probably hit view numbers a lot.
On January 05 2016 22:56 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 22:01 GreenHealing wrote: Why isnt anyone talking about this? Last night show was Avilo teaching everyone about how TvP meta is gonna be like in LotV, marines and tanks. Basicly terran plays TvP same way as TvT. Avilo has a bad trackrecord when it comes to meta-predictions.
I'm usually months ahead of what the "meta" is and recognize things that players start using later, especially when it comes to late game play.
On January 05 2016 22:28 halomonian wrote: And for me that started the show on the wrong foot. I would love to see people that really know about the game analysing it, instead of someone that spends 80% of playtime calling other people maphackers. Especially people that realize that if you are going bio you need marauders vs P because its ground is almost all armored and fighting vs T is a completely different animal. Yeah, its okay to have literally anyone comment and analyse a game but if you are serious about being an educational program, you need people that know what they're talking about
You apparently did not watch the episode, and think innovation is wrong in what he's doing TvP.
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Im not a fan of avilos behavior on stream either, but in the first part of the show he actually did a good job analyzing and pointing out why marine tank might have a role to play in TvP as a general composition early-mid game. Im wondering if Innovation went into the game with the plan to go marine tank or if Manas cheesy built promted him to continue that route. Are there more examples of innovation skipping marauders or is this the only replay of him doing it btw? The 3 starport build is interesting as well - I first saw Gumiho use it early LOTV. The last map specific build im not so sure about, but could be fun to try with all the harrass potential.
Edit: Ohh and btw whos on the show tonight - is there a list somewhere?
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When it comes to analyze the game, design and balance, Avilo is most of the time educational or at least backs it up. You can dislike someone but still listen to what he has to say. Same thing with someone you love, the guy can be totally wrong or just saying untrue or outdated facts to prove his point.
It's politics all over again. Focus on the content and not the medium
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I think marine/tank is a great composition until the Protoss can start to amass templar tech
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