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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On November 05 2015 02:35 Hughgrant wrote: Come on we all know that if the game had advanced to midgame life would have had many problems to counter Lilbow, even if it's one of the best Zerg in the world. no, we do not all know that. in fact you are making it up and you are wrong and/or trolling, lol | ||
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Kingsky
Singapore298 Posts
On November 05 2015 01:59 Nebuchad wrote: In your example, I don't see anything embarrassing about the performance from the guinean guy, so I'm not sure how the analogy applies. ........ Lilbow was the Bahrain guy... not guinean guy... Lilbow was supposed to behave like the guinean | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
aside from that again, there is a reason why black people (like most guinean) sucks hard at swimming but very good at sprints.+ Show Spoiler + black people do have ~1,5% greater abdominal muscles by default | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
It's not a great analogy in any case, Lilbow clearly thinks of himself as the Guinean and is dumbfounded that he didn't bring the house down just by showing up. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:22 Dingodile wrote: aside from that, both swimmer do know before that they suck at swimming. Bahrain guy was a realist and the guinean guy went with passion. aside from that again, there is a reason why black people (like most guinean) sucks hard at swimming but very good at sprints.+ Show Spoiler + black people do have ~1,5% greater abdominal muscles by default Sociological reason are way more relevant that your genetical explanation which is most probably BS anyway. And maybe you should know that Mehdi Metella world champion in 4x100 and french recordman on 100m (both freestyle and butterfly) is black (his sister got medals both in world championships and olympics btw) | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:09 Gwavajuice wrote: Sociological reason are way more relevant that your genetical explanation which is most probably BS anyway. And maybe you should know that Mehdi Metella world champion in 4x100 and french recordman on 100m (both freestyle and butterfly) is black (his sister got medals both in world championships and olympics btw) I looked on wiki, no details about his ancestry. Maybe Mehdy is really a true french boy then his body belongs to white people. If you watch football then you know that black people are superior in some areas to white people, namely acceleration, duells, stamina and speed. Raheem Sterling (jamaica), Yaya Toure, Michael Essien etc or former players like Patrick Vieira and Makelele (both are from Senegal and played for France). | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 05 2015 01:27 Umpteen wrote: That's not true, though. A few years back a guy from Equatorial Guinea entered the Olympic 100m Freestyle swimming. He had never in his life seen a 50m pool, and had trained in a lake. He took over twice as long to complete the distance as anyone else, and when he finished he brought the fucking house down. He had the guts to try his best in front of thousands of spectators, knowing that he was going to finish dead last. Now imagine for a moment the guy from Bahrain who finished second to last - still almost a minute quicker - had said "Eh; I didn't bother training because I had more important things going on." Which of those guys would look like an asshat? Which country would feel embarrassed by the person who represented them? Who would be remembered as insulting the spirit of the Olympics, and who as exemplifying it? There's even more to that story than you just described. And also relevant to the Lilbow discussion The guy's name was Eric Moussambani. He'd been a swimmer only training in lakes for 9 months. And he didn't even have to swim had he chosen not to, the other two swimmers in his heat were disqualified for false starts so he won by default, but he came out there to swim. So he did, and the crowd fell in love with him for him actually trying The relevance to Lilbow is this, Eric only got into the Olympic event via a Wildcard , while more talented and deserving swimmers than him stayed at home because they didn't come top 2 in their much tougher selection trials or didn't swim to the qualifying mark the major nations faced and weren't handed a spot on a silver platter by the organisers. And it started a whole controversy about "building the global scene" versus "Having the best people at the biggest event" Just like a certain French SC2 player got handed a spot at the biggest tournment of the year thanks to a region locked event, while more talented players than him stayed at home because they didn't gain enough points from their much tougher tournaments and they weren't handed a spot on a silver platter by the organisers. Which started a whole debate about "building the global scene" versus "Having the best people at the biggest event". The difference between the two of course is Moussambani TRIED, he knew he wasn't up to the standard of the more talented swimmers, he wasn't even in the same league as the worse guy but he still went out there and gave it his best, and as such when you mention his name in Sydney, or mention "Eric the Eel" everyone remembers that. Lilbow basically did what every person who criticized the system wanted Eric to do after the two false starts, left the stage as fast as he could. Then he went on social media and basically said that as well as "LOL thank you for free money". And the worst thing about it is if he performs well at Dreamhack some people will think that he was justified. Give me a fucking break. | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:22 Dingodile wrote: aside from that, both swimmer do know before that they suck at swimming. Bahrain guy was a realist and the guinean guy went with passion. aside from that again, there is a reason why black people (like most guinean) sucks hard at swimming but very good at sprints.+ Show Spoiler + black people do have ~1,5% greater abdominal muscles by default People from western Africa are genetically more likely to have a greater than average quantity of white muscle fibers. White muscle fibers are specialized in providing great but short bursts of energy. That is one of the reasons you see a lot of "black people" originating from this region participate in sprinting contests. This does not mean people from other regions (Europe, Eastern Africa, Asia) aren't able to be born with a lot of these fibers as well but it's just a bit more likely in before mentioned region because the gene(s) causing this are more prevalent there. As far as I know there aren't many features certain peoples "default" to beside some small differences in appearance. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2781 Posts
I think there's a bit of a problem when people throw all their "hopes and dreams" onto one player who is under no circumstances required nor accountable to live up to what is, frankly, an impossible desire (foreign hope, yeah right)! And finally, it says a lot about the state of the game when players are just WAITING to move on to LOTV. I think this highlights fault with Blizzard's tournament structure more than anything else. There should not be a HOTS major series happening when the beta for LOTV is out and rolling. That's the biggest travesty of all. This would not be a problem if we were given an extended off season that ended a few weeks after LOTV was released. If this had happened no pro would have had to commit to HOTS when they did not want to, and HOTS could just disappear naturally as everyone hopped on to the LOTV train, rather than die the long, unnatural death that it is now. The only reason HOTS is alive at all is because of this final RO16, and frankly it just feels like everyone involved is just waiting for it to end. So I don't blame Lilbow one bit. | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 05 2015 02:35 Hughgrant wrote: Don't worry guys he'll be at next blizzcon. He just got cheesed out as hell . It has nothing to do with "skill". Come on we all know that if the game had advanced to midgame life would have had many problems to counter Lilbow, even if it's one of the best Zerg in the world. What? I'm trying to see the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to reach that conclusion, but I'm failing spectacularly. Are you serious? | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 05 2015 06:04 Zealously wrote: What? I'm trying to see the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to reach that conclusion, but I'm failing spectacularly. Are you serious? You know what they say: love is blind. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:09 Gwavajuice wrote: Sociological reason are way more relevant that your genetical explanation which is most probably BS anyway. And maybe you should know that Mehdi Metella world champion in 4x100 and french recordman on 100m (both freestyle and butterfly) is black (his sister got medals both in world championships and olympics btw) Bernard holds the record in 100m freestyle, not Metella. Metella is the French record holder in 100 fly (51.1 or 51.2) but has never - to my knowledge - grazed the world record in freestyle, which Bernard has held on four separate occasions. I think the question of genetic vs sociological in the context is pretty ridiculous, particularly as it relates to Starcraft, but still. Edit: but I shouldn't derail this thread, and perhaps it has run its course already  | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
Did you just quote the Room?  So Lilbow= Tommy Wiseau? | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On November 05 2015 06:46 TheNewEra wrote: Did you just quote the Room? So Lilbow= Tommy Wiseau?No that's the fans. "You're tearing me apart, Lilbow!" | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 05 2015 06:46 TheNewEra wrote: Did you just quote the Room? So Lilbow= Tommy Wiseau?Sorry to disappoint, but that's a common English expression. A quick google search tells me the first time it was used was by Chaucer =O. | ||
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SirPinky
United States525 Posts
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
On November 05 2015 09:54 SirPinky wrote: Why do people care so much? He earned the spot; he spent the time and opportunity cost to get to play in the finals. He is a 20 year old with different motivations. It is his own business. If people have this much vested interest in drawing inspiration from a person playing video games, I think they might need to re-evaluate their role models. But that is my own opinion. I get that it is a "let down" but don't make it personal... Ok, last post in this thread for me: Literally the only reason progamers exist as a thing is that there are "people with vested interest in drawing inspiration from a person playing video games." Without them there would be no sponsors, no streams, no ad revenue, no competitions, no prize money, no career. When you are a progamer, every penny of the money you receive ultimately comes from the pockets of fans of you and the sport. All sponsorship, all ad revenue, everything - it's contingent upon on those investments being recouped from the fans. Selfishly disregarding the very people who make your lifestyle possible is not, by any stretch, 'your own business'. You are quite simply not doing the thing that you are being paid to do. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46310 Posts
On November 05 2015 06:47 Elentos wrote: No that's the fans. "You're tearing me apart, Lilbow!" I did not cheese her! I DID NAHT! | ||
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