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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
October 19 2015 18:44 GMT
#1241
On October 20 2015 03:44 Heartland wrote:
so what happened to Lorning?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/496904-the-end
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19382 Posts
October 19 2015 18:44 GMT
#1242
On October 20 2015 03:38 sparklyresidue wrote:
So, will a new Team 8 arise to replace Prime?

That can only happen if there 8 players that would make a dream team and then fail.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/285817-why-dream-teams-fail
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 19 2015 19:10 GMT
#1243
On October 20 2015 03:44 KtJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 03:44 Heartland wrote:
so what happened to Lorning?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/496904-the-end


LOL, that thread is acting like he's dying.
pr0n3d91
Profile Joined September 2009
18 Posts
October 19 2015 19:13 GMT
#1244
Savior 2.0

Thought the Starcraft players in the scene would have learned from the first time.

Sad day for Starcraft.
lol
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 19 2015 19:13 GMT
#1245
On October 20 2015 04:10 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 03:44 KtJ wrote:
On October 20 2015 03:44 Heartland wrote:
so what happened to Lorning?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/496904-the-end


LOL, that thread is acting like he's dying.

He is, just on the inside.
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dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
October 19 2015 19:15 GMT
#1246
While there were rumours that match-fixing was an issue, this is still awful. I wonder if the scene can stand another round of this...
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17773 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 19:17:23
October 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#1247
well the story made it into the business press

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-10-19-12-arrested-in-esports-match-fixing-scandal-report
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NexT_SC2
Profile Joined May 2013
United States117 Posts
October 19 2015 19:20 GMT
#1248
, Match fixing might have been the only way to keep Prime afloat. Unfortunate for Yoda and Gerrard. RIP Prime...
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 19:28:21
October 19 2015 19:21 GMT
#1249
On October 20 2015 03:44 KtJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 03:44 Heartland wrote:
so what happened to Lorning?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/496904-the-end


Poor Lorning

Edit: Watching the VOD's just made me realize something. B4 threw his game the night of Creator's greatest moment
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
October 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#1250
On October 20 2015 00:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 00:03 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:56 royalroadweed wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:53 Destructicon wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:49 Boucot wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:38 royalroadweed wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:08 Boucot wrote:
On October 19 2015 18:51 SystemXN wrote:
Leifeng (the sponsor of Chinese tournament Leifeng Cup who has contact with Korean scene) revealed some facts about Prime on Chinese forum (original post in Chinese)

Gerrard never paid salaries to his players, he even prohibited players to use air-conditioner in team house during this summer (maybe to save money). Gerrard didn't care about Prime's SC2 team but paid his full attention on his LoL team.

More ironically, even his LoL team cannot have five enough good computers to practice LoL, so Gerrard took iG (invictus Gaming, the Chinese pro team)'s two computers for practicing and never returned them.

What's more, Gerrard took ByuN's top-class personal computer (which values about $1,200) to team house, not only never returned it, but sold it for money.

It is sad to see both Gerrard and Prime as SC2 veteran come to such an shameful end.


Of all the things I've read about this scandal, this is the worst.

That would explain why ByuN was basically no show for nearly 2 years.

Yeah but he is a talented player, I wonder why he didn't join another team.


Maybe the experience made him lose trust in people overall and he decided to just avoid teams altogether.

I would second this. ByuN's trust must have gotten burned badly. Forget joining a team, he wasn't even playing the game.

Except for all those weekly leagues he was winning I cannot remember who said that, but someone pointed out that HyuN won in their league so many times they are searching for someone who is able to defeat HyuN :-)


There was a very long period of time when ByuN didn't play a single televised game. We basically confirmed his retirement based on hearsay when other players in the Korean scene assumed he had retired.

Holy Batman on a nuclear powered pogo stick!

I have not realized how long it was! Accept my apology, sir!
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 19 2015 19:42 GMT
#1251
On October 20 2015 02:14 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 02:05 Tiaraju9 wrote:
If one of the Kespa team is funded by illegal betting, that Olimoley's tweet claiming that the Korean scene is being funded by illegal betters is partially true indeed.

I never read her saying exactly that. Are you sure it's not just Prime she was referring to..?

Anyway, I would be really surprised if Blizzard comments on this. They have a new expansion right around the corner, and word of matchfixing surely cannot be good for marketing. It's also not really their territory.

I wonder how much this might hurt them. I don't suspect it will be that bad, but still, matchfixing in the two most competitive leagues for the game?


Some of what she said was already corroborated by other tournament organizers and matches up with what happened here: mysterious sponsors who are actually gamblers using 'sponsorship' as a way to get close to teams/players.

In her accusation these 'sponsors' would suggest players to invite to the online cups, presumably because they had influence over what they were going to do. Here you had the gamblers after getting in via sponsorship going directly to players or using their brokers.

The part about 'sponsors' stream cheating doesn't apply to this case of course, but does show you how creative these guys can get.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 19 2015 19:47 GMT
#1252
On October 20 2015 02:52 BisuDagger wrote:
Does anyone think this kind of thing is occurring in League of Legends Korean Scene too and just hasn't been caught yet?


It already happened. Promise tried to commit suicide because of it.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 19 2015 19:52 GMT
#1253
Having lived with Gerrard for over 3 months. I'm shocked he would stoop this low, i knew he would do anything but i didn't think that. Im just sad now.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2015 21:07 GMT
#1254
On October 20 2015 04:13 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:10 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On October 20 2015 03:44 KtJ wrote:
On October 20 2015 03:44 Heartland wrote:
so what happened to Lorning?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/496904-the-end


LOL, that thread is acting like he's dying.

He is, just on the inside.

He'll get over it
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 19 2015 21:11 GMT
#1255
Nothing suprising really
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
October 19 2015 21:27 GMT
#1256
No wonder everyone left prime...
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
October 19 2015 21:39 GMT
#1257
Terrible news Hopefully the korean scene doesnt take a big hit because of this.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 21:59:29
October 19 2015 21:58 GMT
#1258
Well shit, just when lots of other bad news hits the scene, this crops up :/

At least this explains why ByuN, KeeN and co jumped ship.
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
October 19 2015 22:03 GMT
#1259
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/441420-spl-kt-vs-prime-r1?page=13#258
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 19 2015 22:40 GMT
#1260
Wow, really wonder what names are gonna pop up before this is over
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
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