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David Kim answered a question on Twitter about Ladder maps for LotV once it comes out. Apparently we're keeping Ruins of Seras, Lerilak Crest and Orbital Shipyard, but also getting 4 new ones. Hopefully they modify them a bit before, especially the first 2. What do you guys and gals think?
Yeah, we'd like to have the 3 new maps currently in beta + 4 new maps as the 7 maps on 1v1 ladder at the start of void. We will be pushing map diversity quite a bit.
The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year.
And for custom games, we definitely want to have the wings/hots maps working correctly with void resource changes when the game ships. Our dev team is currently working on this right now. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/3nukep/new_maps_for_lotv_please/cvrevcx
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Lerilak, ohh yes please that ramp is so balanced... so bad to see that blizzard never learns from their badly designed maps
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Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.<
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On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote: Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.< Rule of thumb seems to be there's always that one map that everybody and their grandma vetoes because it just plain sucks.
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If only their was a good map-making community that cared about balance........ .durpa durpa..... gg bliz. Doesn't anyone from Blizzard actually read TL?
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On October 13 2015 08:22 Dickbutt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote: Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.< Rule of thumb seems to be there's always that one map that everybody and their grandma vetoes because it just plain sucks. that's what DK understands under "variety"
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finally new maps. Orbital Shipyard sucks too
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On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote: Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.<
Im a zerg and I hate this map too. Crazy how blizzard just never learns how to make a map or atleast form a map pool of good maps from the sea of available community maps.
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I'm glad that the very worst of the maps are going away (especially Bridgehead, Sweet Jesus that map is awful). I don't like Ruins of Seras though, such a boring, featureless map.
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no word on using community maps, so disappointing...
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Use community maps, blizzard. Your's are shit.
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Exactly as expected, doesn't make it any less dissapointing though.
Still curious what they plan for the offseason.
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wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic.
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On October 13 2015 16:47 HaRuHi wrote: wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic. ikr? don't forget about infernal pools...
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3 terrible maps stay, wohoo
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Sad, the maps in the beta have been played to death by the people who have played it since release and arent very well balanced
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And still the econ is not to be changed in any way, throwing away years of good/interesting maps.
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"The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year."
Does that mean we get one more HOTS season? That would be great!
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A thing I think is worth mentioning again, as I have in the past, is Blizzard horrible method of rotating maps, a map pool of 7 where 3 are guaranteed to be kept gives issues, especialy when the rotation period is a 3month interval. From there on there are only 4 possible scenarios and 2 possible outcomes, (please ignore how broad good/bad is, thats a whole different discussion). scenario 1: the maps are bad and good maps are rotated in, no problem. scenario 2: the maps are bad and bad maps are rotated in, sucks, but still no problem. scenario 3: the maps are good and good maps are rotated in, no problem. scenario 4: the maps are good and bad maps are rotated in, big problem.
why is scenario 4 a big problem? because both its outcomes result in problems in the current system. possibility 1: out of the 7 maps, 3 good but old maps are kept, now theres a healthy mix, but a portion of maps are outplayed and stale, as they've allready had half a year worth of play, and will now see an entire year of competitive starcraft possibility 2: out of the 7 maps, the older but good maps are swapped out, now theres an entire map pool of unstable maps, but here's the real kicker, assuming the old ones are kept, 6/7 of these maps will span half a year or 2/3rds of a year of competitive starcraft..
On October 13 2015 18:15 PinoKotsBeer wrote: "The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year."
Does that mean we get one more HOTS season? That would be great!
I think it means LotV launch and the so called off-season will be the LotV beta map pool, but theres no certainty.
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On October 13 2015 16:49 iMrising wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 16:47 HaRuHi wrote: wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic. ikr? don't forget about infernal pools...
The funny part about that was there was 8 maps in the beta pool. They loved inferno pools so mcuh they expanded the map pool from 7 to 8 so they could keep it.
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Dreampool Revisited please!
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On October 13 2015 19:43 rotta wrote: Dreampool Revisited please! For few weeks, the last time was way too long. So to be sure - please no.
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So 3 boring standard maps that have been around forever (if you got into the beta at an early date) get to stay while 4 unique maps get kicked. I guess all the whiners got what they wanted. Let's hope those other 4 are unique and not made by blizzard. Can't believe that even after 5 years and hundreds of amazing community made maps, I still have to hope that Blizzard doesn't throw in some of their own awful maps...
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Lerilak, are you f***** kidding me..... Does any nom Zerg actually consider that playable
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where I can see lotv beta maps? I haven't downloaded beta.
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You guys are horrible. Just play the map you get and try to make it work. Standard maps are boring thats why i really like blizzards new approach. Its not fun to play the same strategies on all maps. I enjoyed the map pool this season. It was diffrent and interesting. Its sad that you guys just like to play standard and nothing else. But thats what gives as a stagnant meta. These maps put things up side down and we got very interesting games out of it.
How about playing custom games if you dont like the maps? And let the ladder be for people who like to experiment and try to make things work.
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On October 13 2015 22:33 todespolka wrote: You guys are horrible. Just play the map you get and try to make it work. Standard maps are boring thats why i really like blizzards new approach. Its not fun to play the same strategies on all maps. I enjoyed the map pool this season. It was diffrent and interesting. Its sad that you guys just like to play standard and nothing else. But thats what gives as a stagnant meta. These maps put things up side down and we got very interesting games out of it.
How about playing custom games if you dont like the maps? And let the ladder be for people who like to experiment and try to make things work.
There's a difference between unique maps and maps that are just imbalanced and force you into certain playstyles.
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Do maps even matter when Blizzard just wants players to turtle into air compositions?
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