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David Kim answered a question on Twitter about Ladder maps for LotV once it comes out. Apparently we're keeping Ruins of Seras, Lerilak Crest and Orbital Shipyard, but also getting 4 new ones. Hopefully they modify them a bit before, especially the first 2. What do you guys and gals think?
Yeah, we'd like to have the 3 new maps currently in beta + 4 new maps as the 7 maps on 1v1 ladder at the start of void. We will be pushing map diversity quite a bit.
The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year.
And for custom games, we definitely want to have the wings/hots maps working correctly with void resource changes when the game ships. Our dev team is currently working on this right now.
Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/3nukep/new_maps_for_lotv_please/cvrevcx
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Lerilak, ohh yes please that ramp is so balanced... so bad to see that blizzard never learns from their badly designed maps
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Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.<
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On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote:
Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.<
Rule of thumb seems to be there's always that one map that everybody and their grandma vetoes because it just plain sucks.
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If only their was a good map-making community that cared about balance........ .durpa durpa..... gg bliz. Doesn't anyone from Blizzard actually read TL?
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On October 13 2015 08:22 Dickbutt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote:
Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.< Rule of thumb seems to be there's always that one map that everybody and their grandma vetoes because it just plain sucks.
that's what DK understands under "variety"
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finally new maps. Orbital Shipyard sucks too
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On October 13 2015 08:11 cactus555 wrote:
Lerilak is probably perma veto by every terran and protoss, why would this map stay >.<
Im a zerg and I hate this map too. Crazy how blizzard just never learns how to make a map or atleast form a map pool of good maps from the sea of available community maps.
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I'm glad that the very worst of the maps are going away (especially Bridgehead, Sweet Jesus that map is awful). I don't like Ruins of Seras though, such a boring, featureless map.
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no word on using community maps, so disappointing...
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Use community maps, blizzard. Your's are shit.
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Exactly as expected, doesn't make it any less dissapointing though.
Still curious what they plan for the offseason.
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wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic.
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On October 13 2015 16:47 HaRuHi wrote:
wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic.
ikr? don't forget about infernal pools...
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3 terrible maps stay, wohoo
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Sad, the maps in the beta have been played to death by the people who have played it since release and arent very well balanced
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And still the econ is not to be changed in any way, throwing away years of good/interesting maps.
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"The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year."
Does that mean we get one more HOTS season? That would be great!
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A thing I think is worth mentioning again, as I have in the past, is Blizzard horrible method of rotating maps, a map pool of 7 where 3 are guaranteed to be kept gives issues, especialy when the rotation period is a 3month interval.
From there on there are only 4 possible scenarios and 2 possible outcomes, (please ignore how broad good/bad is, thats a whole different discussion).
scenario 1: the maps are bad and good maps are rotated in, no problem.
scenario 2: the maps are bad and bad maps are rotated in, sucks, but still no problem.
scenario 3: the maps are good and good maps are rotated in, no problem.
scenario 4: the maps are good and bad maps are rotated in, big problem.
why is scenario 4 a big problem? because both its outcomes result in problems in the current system.
possibility 1: out of the 7 maps, 3 good but old maps are kept, now theres a healthy mix, but a portion of maps are outplayed and stale, as they've allready had half a year worth of play, and will now see an entire year of competitive starcraft
possibility 2: out of the 7 maps, the older but good maps are swapped out, now theres an entire map pool of unstable maps, but here's the real kicker, assuming the old ones are kept, 6/7 of these maps will span half a year or 2/3rds of a year of competitive starcraft..
On October 13 2015 18:15 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
"The current overall plan is to evaluate these maps from launch, and potentially swap some out before the start of season 1 next year."
Does that mean we get one more HOTS season? That would be great!
I think it means LotV launch and the so called off-season will be the LotV beta map pool, but theres no certainty.
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On October 13 2015 16:49 iMrising wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 16:47 HaRuHi wrote:
wow, I need a bigger monitor for Ruins of Seras, minimap sooo tiny.
Lerilak Crest, number 1 vetoed map (I assume), must be because of variety, lets keep it -> blizz logic. ikr? don't forget about infernal pools...
The funny part about that was there was 8 maps in the beta pool. They loved inferno pools so mcuh they expanded the map pool from 7 to 8 so they could keep it.
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