DreamHack Winter 2015 is quickly approaching! The world’s largest digital festival will be heading back to Jönköping, Sweden from November 26th-29th, 2015. Today, DreamHack is extremely excited and honoured to announce the DreamHack Winter 2015 Legacy of the Void Championship, featuring 24 competitors fighting for a share of $50,000 in prize money.
The epic conclusion to the StarCraft II trilogy will be officially released on November 10th—just after BlizzCon 2015—and we’re super excited to be hosting one of the first major Legacy of the Void tournaments. In a shift from the typical DreamHack Open tournament format, DreamHack Winter will feature 24 competitors, who’ll qualify through a combination of regional-based qualifiers, and wild card invitations. The winner will take home a massive $20,000 prize cheque, as well as earning bragging rights as one of the first big Legacy of the Void tournament champions!
Qualification Process Americas Qualifiers – 2 slots Oceanic Qualifiers – 1 slot Western Europe Qualifiers – 6 slots Northern Europe Qualifiers – 4 slots Eastern Europe Qualifiers – 4 slots Southern Europe Qualifiers – 2 slots Western Wildcard – 1 slot Korean Wildcard – 4 slots
The first day of DreamHack Winter 2015 will feature the action-packed group stage, as all 24 players contend for the top places across 4 groups. The next day, the top 12 competitors will be seeded into a cutthroat double elimination bracket, where they’ll try and battle their way to the final.
The best of the action will be broadcast live and for free in 720p HD for viewers at home, while visitors onsite will be able to catch all the action in person and have the chance to meet their favourite players and casters!
All qualifier details (including countries covered by each qualifier, dates and signups) will be announced soon. NOTE: To participate in the tournament, your nationality must match one of the countries included in your region. All qualified competitors must provide their own travel and accommodation.
Hyped for the KR Qualifiers. PartinG already made P look strong in Leifeng Cup, I wanna see some sOs strats Oh wait, it's wildcards Hope they invite PartinG then
I'm never thrilled about welfare seeds, but I won't let that taint such a hype event.
Hopefully the game receives a couple more balance patches by then, tired of the skilless adept free win cheeses, liberators destroying everything, and Ravager rushes vs Toss.
On September 23 2015 00:08 Ej_ wrote: 20k to the guy who does the most abusive set of 2 base all-ins only, you heard it here first
Yup that's probably going to happen. If we are lucky each race has some imba stuff so we end up in an even-ish scenario where the games go longer but i doubt it This might be the best chance for random player #237 to win a tournament before the game is back in a stable state
On September 23 2015 00:08 Ej_ wrote: 20k to the guy who does the most abusive set of 2 base all-ins only, you heard it here first
Yup that's probably going to happen. If we are lucky each race has some imba stuff so we end up in an even-ish scenario where the games go longer but i doubt it This might be the best chance for random player #237 to win a tournament before the game is back in a stable state
TOP is going to become a Dreamhack champion with a 1-1-1 liberator all-in
On September 23 2015 00:08 Ej_ wrote: 20k to the guy who does the most abusive set of 2 base all-ins only, you heard it here first
Yup that's probably going to happen. If we are lucky each race has some imba stuff so we end up in an even-ish scenario where the games go longer but i doubt it This might be the best chance for random player #237 to win a tournament before the game is back in a stable state
TOP is going to become a Dreamhack champion with a 1-1-1 liberator all-in
1/1/1 coming back would be fun for a game or two Ah well, at least it's going to be interesting i hope. As long as i don't see adept or liberator all-ins non-stop i can at least enjoy the madness. Though i would prefer if they did the tournament in HotS. Looking forward to which players are going to attend
On September 23 2015 00:48 Fighter wrote: lol @ the Americas only getting 2 spots... why are we so bad at SC2 T_T
I'm pretty sure Huk is the highest earning player in all of LotV right now. We're actually the best :D
Archon mode is a heck of a lot of fun to watch, but at the end of the day it's just a silly and abusive game mode that shows little in the way of meta or skill. I mean, the fact that Bomber/MMA/True/ or DRG would mop the floor with Huk or MC 1v1 proves that.
We will see who's good at Dreamhack.
I'm interested in seeing what the Koreans will bring to the table.
Oh and also this tournament is going to be trash because of the seeding system. I'm assuming it wont reward any wcs points because most koreans dont even have a chance to participate in the qualifier
On September 23 2015 01:40 REyeM wrote: Oh and also this tournament is going to be trash because of the seeding system. I'm assuming it wont reward any wcs points because most koreans dont even have a chance to participate in the qualifier
Predictions from what ive seen so far from all the LOTV competitions since beta release and also taking into account that some players won't be able to go due to likely not having the ability to pay for the travel. American: 1.qxc 2.MaSa Oceanic: 1.iaguz Western Europe: 1.Lambo 2.TLO 3.MarineLorD 4.ShoWTimE 5.Harstem 6.PtitDrogo Northern Europe: 1.Snute 2.Bunny 3.Serral 4.NaNiwa Eastern Europe: 1.Bly 2.Nerchio 3.MaNa 4.Happy Southern Europe: 1.Beastyqt 2.Starbuck Western Wildcard: 1.Lilbow Korean Wildcards: 1.PartinG 2.Jaedong 3.Life 4.Flash What you guys think???
On September 23 2015 01:40 REyeM wrote: Oh and also this tournament is going to be trash because of the seeding system. I'm assuming it wont reward any wcs points because most koreans dont even have a chance to participate in the qualifier
Well this will be the first big test for LOTV (Red Bull doesn't really count imo) I hope the games will be good, a foreigner will probably even win this one hehe
I guess HuK might have a chance to qualify. The korean wildcards will be interesting to see, JD surely will be one of them though
These big tourneys after the game is out for like 2 weeks are the best because people are still trying out few things and are finding new ways to play certain strategies, which means we could see a lot of crazy stuff. I am pumped!
depends how many will train to counter the most op unit of each race. If enough do it we will have semis and finals, where no one knows how to close out the games, so they will be epic long.
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Yes, the Heart of the Swarm release was definitely perfectly balanced. No races whose new units forced multiple successive nerfs. Definitely just fine.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
Doesn't help that the map pool is one of the worse map pools to test game balance on needed a more racial diverse map pool to see what is actually truely strong instead of 75% of the pool being strong for zerg which might make them look stronger then they truely are when the adept finally gets nerfed and bio might actually be playable on different map pool :D.
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
Its funny how people talk about LotV as if the game was already figured out. Before we have the korean scene playing with KR servers and proper ping, nothing is definitive. The game will not be balanced before the first GSL season and we don't even know what is broken atm.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it. At this point Blizzard is not even done with the design choices and while there is still 2 months left, i don't think it will be that stable. Only my opinion though. And yes the player pool is not the highest level, not at all. But that's understandable when there is no money and/or fame to win yet in LotV
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it.
Strange though this may seem, I like that they kinda rush competitive LotV play. I think the quicker we have big prizes tourneys on LotV, the quicker we'll discover what's wrong with the game (because let's face it, a huge bunch is bound to be severely wrong) and (hopefully) the quicker Blizzard reacts and patches. So I think this is a wise decision.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it.
Strange though this may seem, I like that they kinda rush competitive LotV play. I think the quicker we have big prizes tourneys on LotV, the quicker we'll discover what's wrong with the game (because let's face it, a huge bunch is bound to be severely wrong) and (hopefully) the quicker Blizzard reacts and patches. So I think this is a wise decision.
I'd be surprised if they had ALL their decisions right and would ask myself how many children they sacrifised to the devil to get them all right - there is realistically a 0% chance to get a balanced and well-designed game done first try. Big tournaments might help, you could be right, and at least this might help the big korean tournaments to work with a decently fixed LotV and we won't see band-aid fixes in the middle of a ro16 for example. Anyway we will be a lot wiser at the end of the year. I'm definatley tuning in for the DH and even if it is just for some hilarious or awkward cheeses. Would be fun as well!
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.
Yes, people don't tell me that nearly often enough
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it.
Strange though this may seem, I like that they kinda rush competitive LotV play. I think the quicker we have big prizes tourneys on LotV, the quicker we'll discover what's wrong with the game (because let's face it, a huge bunch is bound to be severely wrong) and (hopefully) the quicker Blizzard reacts and patches. So I think this is a wise decision.
I'd be surprised if they had ALL their decisions right and would ask myself how many children they sacrifised to the devil to get them all right - there is realistically a 0% chance to get a balanced and well-designed game done first try. Big tournaments might help, you could be right, and at least this might help the big korean tournaments to work with a decently fixed LotV and we won't see band-aid fixes in the middle of a ro16 for example. Anyway we will be a lot wiser at the end of the year. I'm definatley tuning in for the DH and even if it is just for some hilarious or awkward cheeses. Would be fun as well!
with a competent team in charge, the well-designed game odds would have been better. I agree there is close to zero chance to have something even remotely balanced.
The only thing I wonder is will they have the balls to do big magnitude changes after release ? For instance, if eco or warpgate rework really prove detrimental after two months of tournament play, can they swallow their pride and revert the changes ? They won't die, it's not poison, but Blizzard can be quite stubborn sometimes.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it.
Strange though this may seem, I like that they kinda rush competitive LotV play. I think the quicker we have big prizes tourneys on LotV, the quicker we'll discover what's wrong with the game (because let's face it, a huge bunch is bound to be severely wrong) and (hopefully) the quicker Blizzard reacts and patches. So I think this is a wise decision.
I'd be surprised if they had ALL their decisions right and would ask myself how many children they sacrifised to the devil to get them all right - there is realistically a 0% chance to get a balanced and well-designed game done first try. Big tournaments might help, you could be right, and at least this might help the big korean tournaments to work with a decently fixed LotV and we won't see band-aid fixes in the middle of a ro16 for example. Anyway we will be a lot wiser at the end of the year. I'm definatley tuning in for the DH and even if it is just for some hilarious or awkward cheeses. Would be fun as well!
with a competent team in charge, the well-designed game odds would have been better. I agree there is close to zero chance to have something even remotely balanced.
The only thing I wonder is will they have the balls to do big magnitude changes after release ? For instance, if eco or warpgate rework really prove detrimental after two months of tournament play, can they swallow their pride and revert the changes ? They won't die, it's not poison, but Blizzard can be quite stubborn sometimes.
I hope they will do what's necessary. Thank god they stoped doing bunker build time fixes
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.
Yes, people don't tell me that nearly often enough
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
yeah I remember when he dominated sjow with the little experience he had against widow mines.
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote: I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
yeah I remember when he dominated sjow with the little experience he had against widow mines.
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote: the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad? Ok.
Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time. And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it.
Strange though this may seem, I like that they kinda rush competitive LotV play. I think the quicker we have big prizes tourneys on LotV, the quicker we'll discover what's wrong with the game (because let's face it, a huge bunch is bound to be severely wrong) and (hopefully) the quicker Blizzard reacts and patches. So I think this is a wise decision.
I'd be surprised if they had ALL their decisions right and would ask myself how many children they sacrifised to the devil to get them all right - there is realistically a 0% chance to get a balanced and well-designed game done first try. Big tournaments might help, you could be right, and at least this might help the big korean tournaments to work with a decently fixed LotV and we won't see band-aid fixes in the middle of a ro16 for example. Anyway we will be a lot wiser at the end of the year. I'm definatley tuning in for the DH and even if it is just for some hilarious or awkward cheeses. Would be fun as well!
with a competent team in charge, the well-designed game odds would have been better. I agree there is close to zero chance to have something even remotely balanced.
The only thing I wonder is will they have the balls to do big magnitude changes after release ? For instance, if eco or warpgate rework really prove detrimental after two months of tournament play, can they swallow their pride and revert the changes ? They won't die, it's not poison, but Blizzard can be quite stubborn sometimes.
I hope they will do what's necessary. Thank god they stoped doing bunker build time fixes
On September 23 2015 06:00 Lumi wrote: throwing money at an unfinished game w00t
Blizzard is in the ultimate catch 22. The most important people balance wise won't stop playing HotS until they're "forced" to but you don't want to force players to play an imbalanced game
I kinda feel that this tournament will be important, if it doesn't get a decent viewercount i think Dreamhack will drop sc2 entirely. Atm around 20k people watching sc2, i doubt that is enough.
On September 23 2015 00:08 Ej_ wrote: 20k to the guy who does the most abusive set of 2 base all-ins only, you heard it here first
wont be the first time happens after a game just comes out but hype for some real LOTV no offense to other tourneys but it wont be beta anymore and real money so ppl will be trying there asses off cant wait might actually watch sc2 more again besides stream here and there.
On September 24 2015 20:04 JokerAi wrote: if nothing change soon we will see only pvp in the finalstages.
things will change just give it time. November doesnt seem far but in sc2 world that enough time to fix something (adept) and find something else broken.(viper) heheheheh
On September 24 2015 18:27 shid0x wrote: I love the first big tournament of a game. Last time it was IEM who did it :p now dh.
Will probably get pretty good viewership numbers.
i cant remember who did it for hots. you might be right, but all i remember was flash and life and having epic games hope to have the same this time round.
Since the game will be in a likely completely broken state, if I were a pro, I'd switch to the broken race (protoss, atm) and practice only that to make people rage
On September 25 2015 08:17 Ace Frehley wrote: Since the game will be in a likely completely broken state, if I were a pro, I'd switch to the broken race (protoss, atm) and practice only that to make people rage
Hahaha I don't even like Kiss but I approve of your username.
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Hope they invite PartinG then
To be honest small amount of alcohol would be good when watching this tournament :D
