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HM1199
Profile Joined June 2015
8 Posts
July 22 2015 21:55 GMT
#1
hey guys
i wanna discuss about the carrier vs battlecruiser confrontation according to the lore not the game
here are some LORE info about these two
ive spent quite some time diving into the wikis to search some info about these two (as well as novels )
so here is the comparaison



protection:
BC:
neosteel armor ( even harder than titanu=ium)and able to regenerate as well
a defensive deployment of shields (but consumes a lot of energy )
point defence drones (in the gorgon classes only )
the PD drones work preferably on solid projectiles


Nerf carrier
extreamly dense plating that has been subject to numerous modifications at extream temperatures to remove any material imperfection
passive energy shields that can sustain (as a wiki says ) a whole fleet pounding it for a while
interceptor able to chase down projectiles as well



Armament:
BC:
at least 20 laser gun batteries able to make a thick barrage of deadly firepower
plasma torpedoes (only for some classes)
yamato cannon (behemoth class)
the yamato cannon is a nuclear blast kept inside a dense magnetic field)
this beam is extreamly powerful and could easily punch through neosteel as seen in cinematics
24 wraiths stored in (only for the bigger BC's)
j23 barrage ship to ship missiles (for the gorgon class)
heavier BC's can have tactical nukes to bombard ground installations
ps: BC's can store wraiths but cannot produce them


Nerf carrier
a swarm of interceptors (from 800 - 2000) and can produce 200 each 10 mins
an interceptor is basically a strike craft with a very high degree of mobility
it is as big as wraith and holds 2 plasma cannons
the carrier's central computer analyses the target then munifactures the interceptors according to the situation (for example makes faster interceptors for fast targets like wraiths .... or make interceptors with heavier weaponry for armored targets)
in addition ...the interceptors robotic brain attacks the vital spots of the target
to describe the effect of a swarm of interceptors running by ... the novel (starcraft archives) mentionned that a wave of interceptors rapidly teared apart a whole fleet of mutas and guardians ..... as well as it only took 40 interceptors from the quel'ha (a carrier ) to utterly erase the napoleon and the brismark (two BC's)


purification cannon
the wikiS(plural) do confirm that all carriers have a purification weapon able to one shot planets with searing energy beams able to disintegrate an atmosphere and utterly desroy a planet's crust

carriers can store scouts and arbitals for cloaking
ps: if you are asking how can the carrier hold 2000 craft with the seize of a wraith ... its because it warps them in (it doesnt physically carries them.

super carriers have other heavier armament .... but not mentionned .

Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
July 22 2015 22:07 GMT
#2
So what are we discussing here..?
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 22 2015 22:08 GMT
#3
This is like that show where they compare weapons of various types of warriors (ninjas, vikings, native americans, etc.) and then have a simulation video at the end to see who wins.

Except there is no fight!

You should simulate one. Carriers launching scouts and nukes etc.
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CKSide
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States223 Posts
July 22 2015 22:11 GMT
#4
So then based on your information, it sounds like in a 1v1 the carrier would easily win. 2000 interceptors with 2 plasma cannons each? so one volley is 4000 plasma balls hurling at a battlecruiser.

I don't think even all the PDDs or a full "shield" could stop that.
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
July 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#5
lol, big BCs hold 24 wraiths, carriers hold > 800 interceptors the size of wraiths

how is this even close? protoss imba clearly
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varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
July 22 2015 22:30 GMT
#6
I'm not even reading this past the first paragraph.

I am not the person to usually comment about quality of writing or grammar, but there's a difference between few mistakes or a typo and fucking hell.

No syntax, no proper capitalization, grammar mistakes at every sentences, inconsistent construction....
If you're putting the effort of posting a whole page of stuff, the LEAST you can do is to try to render it easy and comfortable for people that are supposed to read it.
TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
July 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#7
Lets assume this discussion is legit--it obviously means we need to buff the carrier to match the lore.
HM1199
Profile Joined June 2015
8 Posts
July 22 2015 23:23 GMT
#8
varsovie i was writing with a phone
aaah grammar nazi's



for the others if u thing that the carrier is strong u didnt see the might of the great david kim
with the ability to downgrade 800 interceptors to 8 lololol
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
July 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#9
On July 23 2015 08:23 HM1199 wrote:
varsovie i was writing with a phone
aaah grammar nazi's



for the others if u thing that the carrier is strong u didnt see the might of the great david kim
with the ability to downgrade 800 interceptors to 8 lololol



You can always go back and make the OP prettier, it is pretty bad to read at the moment
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Shadowfyre
Profile Joined August 2013
United States14 Posts
July 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#10
This is like that show where they compare weapons of various types of warriors (ninjas, vikings, native americans, etc.) and then have a simulation video at the end to see who wins.


You're thinking of the show "Deadliest Warrior" friend.
He who conquers himself of yesterday, will conquer the enemies of tomorrow.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 23 2015 00:31 GMT
#11
On July 23 2015 09:21 Shadowfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is like that show where they compare weapons of various types of warriors (ninjas, vikings, native americans, etc.) and then have a simulation video at the end to see who wins.


You're thinking of the show "Deadliest Warrior" friend.

YES. Exactly!

In that case:

I think that the battle cruiser is inherently going to lose because its crew is made up of humans who are dumber than glorious alien race Protoss. The captain of the ship, at least in SC2, sounds like he's drunk all the time, while the alien in the carrier sounds like he's on top of his shit.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
July 23 2015 00:42 GMT
#12
On July 23 2015 09:31 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 09:21 Shadowfyre wrote:
This is like that show where they compare weapons of various types of warriors (ninjas, vikings, native americans, etc.) and then have a simulation video at the end to see who wins.


You're thinking of the show "Deadliest Warrior" friend.

YES. Exactly!

In that case:

I think that the battle cruiser is inherently going to lose because its crew is made up of humans who are dumber than glorious alien race Protoss. The captain of the ship, at least in SC2, sounds like he's drunk all the time, while the alien in the carrier sounds like he's on top of his shit.

Couldn't agree more. There is no way joe schmoe dipshit battlecruiser admiral is gonna win a battle against protoss carrier commander aka alakazam on steroids, not even a small chance
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Jinchu
Profile Joined April 2015
89 Posts
July 23 2015 01:30 GMT
#13
On July 23 2015 09:31 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 09:21 Shadowfyre wrote:
This is like that show where they compare weapons of various types of warriors (ninjas, vikings, native americans, etc.) and then have a simulation video at the end to see who wins.


You're thinking of the show "Deadliest Warrior" friend.

YES. Exactly!

In that case:

I think that the battle cruiser is inherently going to lose because its crew is made up of humans who are dumber than glorious alien race Protoss. The captain of the ship, at least in SC2, sounds like he's drunk all the time, while the alien in the carrier sounds like he's on top of his shit.

That's prejudiced! Humans with drinking problems (See: Raynor; drinking alone) can achieve great things in life! /fakeoutrage
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
July 23 2015 01:32 GMT
#14
ahhh that kid in the class who ate crayons just to make the other kids laugh for a second. this is the kinna stuff they do when they grow up
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 05:13:40
July 23 2015 05:11 GMT
#15
On July 23 2015 08:23 HM1199 wrote:
varsovie i was writing with a phone
aaah grammar nazi's

Don't phones have auto correct and capitalization on by default though? Not to mention the fact that many of the errors in your post don't even have anything to do with typing on a phone.
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 05:35:32
July 23 2015 05:30 GMT
#16
BC releases cloaked wraiths, carrier releases interceptors & arbiter for cloak. Both BC & Carrier have no detection.
BC releases PDDs, block interceptors' shots for a while. wraiths take out arbiter. BC charges up yamato cannon.
BC yamato carrier, carrier takes down BC with interceptors, wraiths take out carrier.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 23 2015 05:46 GMT
#17
On July 23 2015 14:30 agsub wrote:
BC releases cloaked wraiths, carrier releases interceptors & arbiter for cloak. Both BC & Carrier have no detection.
BC releases PDDs, block interceptors' shots for a while. wraiths take out arbiter. BC charges up yamato cannon.
BC yamato carrier, carrier takes down BC with interceptors, wraiths take out carrier.


Carrier points at arbitrary direction towards BC. Shoots planet destroying beam of energy. Destroys everything roughly a planet in size of space in front of it.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
July 23 2015 07:26 GMT
#18
How does Zerg beat a carrier or two? you'd really need million or billions of units
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 07:34:52
July 23 2015 07:34 GMT
#19
On July 23 2015 16:26 swissman777 wrote:
How does Zerg beat a carrier or two? you'd really need million or billions of units

So you mean that Zerg race beats a carrier by being zergy. I like this

The question is - how many carriers are present in the fleet? I mean - to me it looks like airtoss(from lore) is more like current aircraft carrier strategy. AC is a horribly expensive weapon well protected by several other ships. Basically glass cannon (in therms of MMO) So if you want to kill an aircraft carrier you have to go through that defense first and there are not so many AC in the world.

Therefore you can overwhelm the Carrier by many zerg units if the defensive units are killed.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 23 2015 07:55 GMT
#20
On July 23 2015 16:26 swissman777 wrote:
How does Zerg beat a carrier or two? you'd really need million or billions of units


We have leviathan. And the power of the swarm.

Just hope that the roachhydra didn't get the other race the idea of making a carrier cruiser
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