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July 15th, 2015 18:42 GMT
  • .1
    The Wide Open Brackets
  • .2
    Ro8 Favorites
  • .3
    China?
  • .LP
    IEM Shenzhen on Liquipedia
.1
The Wide Open Brackets

"Wait, there'll be Chinese protoss players there?! I didn't sign up for that!"





IEM Shenzhen unfortunate lost one of its biggest names to visa issues - EG's (Z)Jaedong unfortunately will not be able to compete in the tournament. That leaves us with quite few players actually attending this event. The brackets are as wide open as they've ever been. Isn't that the perfect time for miracle runs?

The Open Bracket story is quite straight forward. There are five Koreans in it. That's enough Koreans to fill all qualifying spots. We don't really know much about any of the other players attending the Open Bracket, but we took some time to pick out one of them and give you a preview anyway. You're welcome!

(P)Cyan is a teamless Chinese Protoss player. His only result is a 1-3 WCS Challenger loss to Jim in Season 2. Unfortunately, YellOw's SC2 career was shorter than Shaq's acting career, and there are no players by the name of Magenta or Black. Therefore, on paper, Cyan still gives no indication he can make a mark on this tournament. However, because he's a Chinese Protoss, we'll hear about him having taken a game off a good Korean off stream with a baffling strategy, then earn a televised game in the bout for the fifth qualification spot. Something about this guy says he's going to be the hometown hero. Unfortunately for him, Jaedong won't be there to be the one dropping said map to him, so he'll have to find someone else.



.2
Ro8 Favorites


(P)Rain



There is almost no reason why anyone would believe that Rain does not deserve to be on this list. GSL Season 2 champion. HomeStory Cup XI champion. This on top of Rain's other monumental achievements (including #1 Aligulac rating). The Protoss with a reputation for his solid mechanics and defensive style with a solid win rate against a diversity of opponents will certainly go far at IEM Shenzhen. Rain is most certainly one of the contenders to look for at this tournament and has very little to stop him from making the Round of 8. Anything but a top 8, even a top 4 finish from Rain would probably be surprising. He is by no means invincible though. There are others on this list who have the ability to knock him out of the tournament, but none can keep him from Round of 8. Rain may not win it all, but that's a problem for later. For now, Rain will enjoy little resistance on his way up, even with arguably the toughest group.

(P)herO



It is not often that a player's achievements in one particular tournament are so outstanding that they earn him a title other than "champion." Those who come to mind are HerO at DreamHack Winter and NesTea in GSL. The remarkable successes of (P)CJ_herO] at Singapore, Sao Paolo, Katowice, San Jose, and Taipei have given birth to the simple label "King of IEM." Save his surprise exit from Toronto in the open bracket, herO has always reached at least the quarterfinals. In fact, he himself noted that he has won each of the three tournaments for which he had to play through the online qualifiers. The reason, he said, is that he's able to qualify because he is playing in his best form, so his condition converts to championships. Once again, herO has fought his way through the gauntlet of the Asian Qualifier, and although his early (by herO standards) exit from KeSPA Cup may suggest his form is not at its peak, uThermal, Jim, and a player from the open bracket will almost certainly not be enough to stop the King of IEM from making a worthy challenge to reclaim his throne.

(P)PartinG



The Soul Train conductor returns to IEM in style. On the back end of slaying a string of foreigners in the last few weeks, PartinG returns to a contest that may test his mettle yet again. Only time will tell if his abilities haven't lessened too much in order to beat the other contenders in his group and make it to the Round of 8. Hopefully his most recent loss to Sacsri is no indication of his future performances against other Korean players, but PartinG has a way of not letting us down. Of course when we watch PartinG, we do watch him in part for his antics, usually accompanied by his humorous command of the English language to the delight of many a crowd. We love to see PartinG win because we love to see him interviewed. Hopefully his path to the Round of 8 will show us if he will succeed MC as Master of Ceremonies. He certainly has the abilities both in and out of game to match.

(P)YongHwa



Some are probably wondering if Artosis bribed IEM administrators to fly (P)YongHwa to Shenzen just so he could cast more of his games and steal more of his builds. The unflagging hype our beloved GSL caster has created for the MVP Protoss is somewhat justified, however, with his steady presence on the fringes of Code S and S2SL Challenger. His play is characterized by very safe, solid macro, with the occasional two base all-in to spice things up. Despite YongHwa's somewhat predictable tendencies, the very nature of his style has allowed him to find enough success to warrant MVP sending him across the Yellow Sea. Although there's naturally some lingering doubt about the effects of the atmosphere of his first foreign tournament since IEM Hannover in 2013, particularly with Chinese tournaments' reputations for bad player conditions and technical difficulties, YongHwa's results in his few trips abroad suggest he won't be fazed. A silver at HomeStory Cup V and a 3rd/4th at the first Premier tournament in HotS (Hanover) are impressive for someone with such limited experience outside of Korea, and that adaptability could very well take him on a journey through the open bracket and even past the group stage.

(Z)Losira



One of the delights of this year so far has been seeing Losira returning as a force in Korean StarCraft 2. After his spectacular rebirth at HomeStory Cup X last December, where he placed in the top four of a Premier tournament for the first time in three and a half years, he came back to Korea refreshed and reinvigorated. He tore through the early rounds of Proleague, serving as a central linchpin around which a completely revamped MVP squad began to take shape as a unit. However, for all the wins and ceremonies he’s given us, a quick glance at his results for the year puts things in perspective. Qualifying for two Starleagues out of the six available for the year is a gross underachievement, and his Proleague results have dipped since his Round 1 peak. IEM then represents another shot at weekender glory; the calm before the storm of the climax to the Korean Starcraft year. He’s perhaps fortunate that it’s unlikely he’ll need to play his relatively weak mirror matchup — zergs are practically non-existent in Shenzhen (and if the victory in the Open Bracket sends him to Group B, then, with all due respect, Snute will hardly be his greatest concern)—while his ZvT and ZvP have been on the up recently. It’s pretty inconceivable that Losira should fall in the Open Bracket, which is noticeably weaker than usual, and a spot in the quarterfinals should be his minimum goal.

(T)SuperNova



(T)SuperNova's tale is similar to YongHwa's at this event, having a limited number of foreign tournaments under his belt while struggling to stay relevant in Korea. Although he has been revered throughout his career for preparation and powerfully tailored strategies, which earned him nine straight Code S appearances, his recent drop off is a source for concern about his overall abilities. ROOT have not sent him to an international tournament until now, and it could just be that SuperNova has finally gotten out of his funk and is ready to remind everyone how strong his 20 different mech builds are. With some luck, SuperNova will avoid a group that puts his worst matchup, TvP, against any of the four best PvT players in the world. Without any Zergs at Shenzen besides Losira and Snute, SuperNova will have to rely heavily on his TvT and solving some of his TvP problems to make it to the quarterfinals, but he might have it in him.

(T)TY



With all these fancy protoss giants in attendance, it might come as a surprise to many that (T)TY is one of the most intriguing players there. Yes, KT Rolster's very own architect of weird, wonky and wonderful builds, has finally worked himself through another qualifier and fans should be excited to see how what sort of crazyness he brings with him. TY's first foray abroad happened nearly a year ago at Dreamhack Bucharest 2014. Despite most commonly known for his carefully crafted builds, TY found himself at home in the weekend long format, proving that his KeSPA training was enough to elevate him over foreigners and most Koreans in an environment where preparation hardly factors into success.
TY had another chance to prove himself at HSC X, where he got to the quarterfinals. While the large number of Koreans in attendance and TY's limited showings in 2015 would cast doubt upon his ability to reach the later stages of this IEM, his qualifier run, slaying Stats, Life and Dream, was no small feat and proves that, for at least a little while, he is ready to take on the best.

(P)Classic



Like TY, (P)Classic is one of those players you rarely see travel abroad, with a total of only three foreign tournaments to his name - IEM Cologne 2014, Dreamhack Stockholm 2014 and IEM Taipei 2015. Overall though Classic seems to have a strong impact in short, weekend-style tournaments. His lowest finish was the Ro16 at Stockholm, while at both IEMs he made at least the Ro8. At KeSPA Cup 2014 he reached the top four. Perhaps his most impressive tournament abroad though was BlizzCon 2014, where he made the semifinals and was eventually stopped by MMA on very unfavorable maps.
Any doubts that still remained regarding the legitimacy of his GSL win were swept aside as Classic finally claimed another championship, and did so in very convincing fashion - S2SL Season 2. Of the players attending, Classic looks like one of, if not the strongest. His PvT is frightening, his PvZ might be the best in the world. The only chin-k in his armor could be his at times shaky PvP. In a tournament with so many great protoss opponents, that might be the deciding factor for him.

.3
What can China do?




It’s not been a vintage year for Chinese Starcraft 2 players plying their trades abroad so far. For a country once hyped as the best of the rest, results in the revamped Starcraft global system have been thoroughly disappointing. Despite taking up 8 spots in the Round of 32 over the past two seasons, no Chinese player has made it into the WCS playoffs yet, while any attempt to make it in Korea has been slapped down with derision. Here, in their own back yard, it’s time for the Chinese to make their stand. It’s time for pylon walls and cannon rushes; time for 7 oracle rushes in PvZ and tempest contains in PvT. It’s time for Jim to remind people of his illustrious record, and for XY to show that Terrans actually exist in China. It’s time for home grown heroes to show the Koreans that the Open Bracket is not equivalent to a free group stage ticket. It’s time for someone to pick up Sen’s banner; to once again earn the title of Foreigner Champion in a premier tournament. History, inevitably, is against them. But as we saw last year at Shenzhen, pressure works both ways, and Jim’s play was elevated to new heights by the roar of the crowd behind him.

And still, barring any Has-like shenanigans or Shana-vs-CranK-esque upsets, the Chinese resistance has almost as small a chance at taking more than one of the qualification spots as the Brazilians did at Sao Paolo (except Kelazhur, of course). At some point before the Open Bracket starts, we may see Seed, SuperNova, Losira, and YongHwa gathered around, discussing the importance of scouting. That preparation will likely be all they need to handle the Hong Kong Twin of Byung Gu, Bistork, the Printer Ink Protoss Cyan, and the Sword Protoss Saber (who hasn't played a game since 2012). But if one of the Koreans does actually drop out to a local player, expect snarky tweets from stuchiu, potentially angry tweets from TotalBiscuit, and a very disappointed Chinese crowd once that player draws the group with Classic, Rain and Snute.

We're really sorry, China. Maybe next time.

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Writers: banjoe, Destructicon, Brindled, munch, DarkLordOlli
Editors: DarkLordOlli.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 19:04:53
July 15 2015 18:55 GMT
#2
TY hasn't lost a TvP series since April, should be very much at home at this IEM.

Also a lot of Protoss players and all of them with pretty average PvP might cause a surprise or two somewhere past the Ro8. Lack of Zerg players is somewhat awkward.

Speaking of good players and China, ByuN has breached the top 10 on aligulac by winning another Leifeng Cup <.<
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 15 2015 19:15 GMT
#3
On July 16 2015 03:55 Elentos wrote:
TY hasn't lost a TvP series since April, should be very much at home at this IEM.


Wow! And Parting hasn't lost a PvT all year. If they meet, it should be absolutely excellent!
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
July 15 2015 19:20 GMT
#4
I expect a herO or Parting win, they are far above the competition and have more experience with international tournaments. But maybe Rain will play at his full potential this time.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
July 15 2015 19:22 GMT
#5
On July 16 2015 04:15 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 03:55 Elentos wrote:
TY hasn't lost a TvP series since April, should be very much at home at this IEM.


Wow! And Parting hasn't lost a PvT all year. If they meet, it should be absolutely excellent!

PartinG lost a bo3 to Maru in Code S (he bullied him in the rematch tho).
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Sitze
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands38 Posts
July 15 2015 19:28 GMT
#6
No Jaedong? TT
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 15 2015 19:32 GMT
#7
"But if one of the Koreans does actually drop out to a local player, expect snarky tweets from stuchiu, potentially angry tweets from TotalBiscuit, and a very disappointed Chinese crowd once that player draws the group with Classic, Rain and Snute. "

lol
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PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
July 15 2015 19:33 GMT
#8
No Jaedong, get your ass to Dreamhack!!!!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 19:44:34
July 15 2015 19:43 GMT
#9
I'm surprised one of the iG boys didn't go with XY/Jim to cheer him on to be picked as a replacement for JD. Its probably last minute to invite one of them but I'm really surprised Macsed/iA/Cloudy/Xigua aren't already there. Especially with such a small open bracket
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2015 19:46 GMT
#10
parting rain classic is the new protoss bully squad
can i get my estro logo back pls
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 15 2015 19:54 GMT
#11
I'm assuming that the half-sized Open Brackets is more a product of the challenges of getting players to China than anything else. After a lot of challenges with events in China, it's not surprising that only local talent (2nd-tier local talent at that) and Koreans on internationally-focused teams made the trip.
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Kevn23
Profile Joined December 2011
United States80 Posts
July 15 2015 20:30 GMT
#12
China loves them Toss players man, Zerg shall not pass.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 15 2015 20:31 GMT
#13
I'm also highly suspect that this "Saber" is the old Protoss Saber and not the current Chinese Terran (T)SaberAltoria.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 15 2015 20:32 GMT
#14
On the one side China supports Esport directly via their ministry of sports (or whatever it is called) but on the other hand, their own players, like the IG Squad does not show up at shenzen in the open bracket and you get only a half sized open bracket. One player cant make it in time because a chinese airline does not get their stuff togeather.


They dont let a top esport player in the country (maybe due to MERS outbrake, maybe because he is the DONG), but all other south koreans can come in? When one hand does not know what the other hand is doing, things like this happen.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 15 2015 20:35 GMT
#15
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 15 2015 20:36 GMT
#16
Rain herO Parting Yonghwa! Get ready for some sick PvP
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#17
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.

I just skipped over the piece because Im still salty about S2SL
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Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
July 15 2015 21:10 GMT
#18
best 4 Protoss players in the world imho...
good luck to everyone else, they need it.
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Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
July 15 2015 21:38 GMT
#19
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.


I read "where he made the semifinals and was eventually stopped by MMA on very unfavorable maps" and asked myself: did DLO write it? Yes, you did.
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 15 2015 21:43 GMT
#20
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.

Yeah, well nobody has appreciated my half-baked Cyan jokes, so boohoo
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#21
On July 16 2015 06:38 Ingvar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.


I read "where he made the semifinals and was eventually stopped by MMA on very unfavorable maps" and asked myself: did DLO write it? Yes, you did.


I did edit that in! It's important to note
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#22
On July 16 2015 05:31 Circumstance wrote:
I'm also highly suspect that this "Saber" is the old Protoss Saber and not the current Chinese Terran (T)SaberAltoria.

IEM website reported him as a Protoss
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freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
July 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#23
On July 16 2015 07:18 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 05:31 Circumstance wrote:
I'm also highly suspect that this "Saber" is the old Protoss Saber and not the current Chinese Terran (T)SaberAltoria.

IEM website reported him as a Protoss

I asked (T)SaberAltoria himself if he is the Protoss Saber. He said: no.
I also asked several Chinese players including (P)Cyan, but nobody knows who the Protoss Saber is so far.

Like the OP said, apparently there used be a Protoss Saber in China who was active in 2011 and 2012. But it was a long time ago.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#24
Nice writeup, TL staff.

I'm most interested in to see how TY will perform in this tournament. Even though he ended up losing in Code A, his proleague and particularly online qualifier play has been impressive to me.

The other question mark for me is PartinG. We haven't seen him in a while. What's up?
lpunatic
Profile Joined October 2011
235 Posts
July 16 2015 00:02 GMT
#25
On July 16 2015 06:43 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.

Yeah, well nobody has appreciated my half-baked Cyan jokes, so boohoo



I'm not sure if I can grant you a laugh for it, but I did groan inwardly.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 16 2015 00:40 GMT
#26
On July 16 2015 09:02 lpunatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:43 banjoetheredskin wrote:
On July 16 2015 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Hmmmm, nobody's gonna notice the "chin-k" pun I came up with for Classic, cause the text cuts off there and it looks natural. Damn you smart css.

Yeah, well nobody has appreciated my half-baked Cyan jokes, so boohoo



I'm not sure if I can grant you a laugh for it, but I did groan inwardly.

That is the most I can ask for with my sense of humor
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 01:11:47
July 16 2015 01:11 GMT
#27
3 elephants in 3 separate brackets? I am totally tuning in!!!


Poll: Which elephant will win IEM Season X?

herO (12)
 
57%

Classic (6)
 
29%

BaBy (3)
 
14%

21 total votes

Your vote: Which elephant will win IEM Season X?

(Vote): BaBy
(Vote): Classic
(Vote): herO



Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
July 16 2015 01:45 GMT
#28
Oh the joy, if we're super lucky we'll have 2 zergs in the 16 player group stage
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fteneq
Profile Joined August 2012
United States49 Posts
July 16 2015 01:56 GMT
#29
Is there no stream for the open bracket tonight?!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 16 2015 02:21 GMT
#30
So looks like Seed and Alicia had to cancel too? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen#Participants

So now the open bracket has 6 players, top 5 qualify for the groups? LOL
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 16 2015 02:22 GMT
#31
On July 16 2015 11:21 Die4Ever wrote:
So looks like Seed and Alicia had to cancel too? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen#Participants

So now the open bracket has 6 players, top 5 qualify for the groups? LOL

and the Saber guy looks to not even be there either
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 02:26:10
July 16 2015 02:24 GMT
#32
On July 16 2015 11:22 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 11:21 Die4Ever wrote:
So looks like Seed and Alicia had to cancel too? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen#Participants

So now the open bracket has 6 players, top 5 qualify for the groups? LOL

and the Saber guy looks to not even be there either

Are they going to broadcast anything tonight? They were supposed to be on an hour ago. I mean, 5 players with 5 moving on seems pointless, but they should at least play for seeding right?

How could they not get more Chinese players to show up? This is crazy lol.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 16 2015 02:27 GMT
#33
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 16 2015 02:28 GMT
#34
How's the seeding from the open brackets to the groups done? Random? Ordered pick?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 16 2015 02:30 GMT
#35
I'm getting the feeling this might be the last season of IEM with starcraft in it. It's just getting ridiculous at this point and its sad
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 16 2015 02:36 GMT
#36
On July 16 2015 11:30 LongShot27 wrote:
I'm getting the feeling this might be the last season of IEM with starcraft in it. It's just getting ridiculous at this point and its sad


Nah I don't think so. But maybe this will be the last season with events in China.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 02:39:39
July 16 2015 02:37 GMT
#37
lol 5 players in open bracket, top 5 advance?

for realz?
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 02:42:04
July 16 2015 02:38 GMT
#38
On July 16 2015 11:24 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 11:22 Yhamm wrote:
On July 16 2015 11:21 Die4Ever wrote:
So looks like Seed and Alicia had to cancel too? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen#Participants

So now the open bracket has 6 players, top 5 qualify for the groups? LOL

and the Saber guy looks to not even be there either

Are they going to broadcast anything tonight? They were supposed to be on an hour ago. I mean, 5 players with 5 moving on seems pointless, but they should at least play for seeding right?

How could they not get more Chinese players to show up? This is crazy lol.

The StarCraft II scene is too small in China that it seems there are few sponsors concerning about it.It would be reasonable that few of them would like like to provide traveling funds for progamers.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
July 16 2015 02:52 GMT
#39
http://www.huomaotv.com/live/34
Title: (Wiki)IEM Season X - Shenzhen Day 1
Fact: (Wiki)IEM Season X - gamescom/American Qualifier
I love SC2
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 03:03:11
July 16 2015 02:56 GMT
#40
Cyan just told me the Open Bracket has been cancelled.
The 5 remaining players will choose their desired groups one by one, according to the order of their WCS points.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 16 2015 03:02 GMT
#41
On July 16 2015 11:56 freeamount wrote:
Cyan just told me the Open Bracket has been cancelled.
The 5 remaining players will choose their desired groups one by one, according the order of WCS points.


Jesus christ...this is just embaressing
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 16 2015 03:19 GMT
#42
Thanks for the updates freeamount!
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
July 16 2015 03:19 GMT
#43
So one players gets to "pick" the group with Snute, Rain, and, Classic....ouch.
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freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
July 16 2015 03:29 GMT
#44
On July 16 2015 12:19 FrkFrJss wrote:
So one players gets to "pick" the group with Snute, Rain, and, Classic....ouch.

Must be Cyan... He only got 50 points.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
July 16 2015 03:42 GMT
#45
On July 16 2015 11:56 freeamount wrote:
Cyan just told me the Open Bracket has been cancelled.
The 5 remaining players will choose their desired groups one by one, according to the order of their WCS points.

Update:
Chinese caster said there would still be matches today. It just starts.
These matches would decide the player who takes the seed from Jaedong.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 04:00:57
July 16 2015 03:45 GMT
#46
Again, this has nothing to do with Starcraft and everything to do with the incredible hassle of working with China - let's not forget how long the delays are in live international tournaments held in non-Korean parts of Asia. Gamescom will absolutely have players apply for the full-sized Open Bracket and get denied.

BTW, if anyone's wondering, Seed didn't get his visa and Alicia has been temporarily stranded in another part of China because of flight issues. That's why they're not there.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 16 2015 04:04 GMT
#47
On July 16 2015 12:45 Circumstance wrote:
Again, this has nothing to do with Starcraft and everything to do with the incredible hassle of working with China - let's not forget how long the delays are in live international tournaments held in non-Korean parts of Asia. Gamescom will absolutely have players apply for the full-sized Open Bracket and get denied.

BTW, if anyone's wondering, Seed didn't get his visa and Alicia has been temporarily stranded in another part of China because of flight issues. That's why they're not there.


It's still an incredible load
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 16 2015 04:16 GMT
#48
On July 16 2015 12:29 freeamount wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 12:19 FrkFrJss wrote:
So one players gets to "pick" the group with Snute, Rain, and, Classic....ouch.

Must be Cyan... He only got 50 points.


Bistork has 0
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
July 16 2015 04:51 GMT
#49
No players are choosing any groups. It will be random draw, as always. Cyan was never told anything of the sort.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 16 2015 05:47 GMT
#50
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen/Stage_2

Groups are drawn,, Group B is even bigger group of death than before RIP Snute
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 16 2015 06:39 GMT
#51
PartinG is so lucky...
Group A is actually interesting. Losira should take 1st and all 3 Terrans are pretty good at TvT
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 16 2015 07:06 GMT
#52
On July 16 2015 14:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen/Stage_2

Groups are drawn,, Group B is even bigger group of death than before RIP Snute


Well at least it's still 1 matchup .

The ultimate zvp test is upon you Snute!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
July 16 2015 07:56 GMT
#53
WTF? Group A and B are ridiculous and C and D are free wins for herO and PartinG? Seems like black magic.
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
July 16 2015 11:08 GMT
#54
So, why weren't there any Chinese players in the open brackets? This is just weird.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 16 2015 11:57 GMT
#55
On July 16 2015 20:08 Thax wrote:
So, why weren't there any Chinese players in the open brackets? This is just weird.


Because making a international tournament happen in China, either by bigger foreign companys or by chinese ones, is a pain in the ass.
I remember what B2W told from their trip to the WCA (or was it WEC ? i dont remember the 3 letters, lol), where there was a hugh convention center for all tournaments, a hugh area for players, everything was giant (even the money, highest prizepool in WC3 history for example) and still, Internet gone down, poweroutage, VISA trouble.

And then things happen, like no chinese players come to the open brackets, top athlets cannot get into the country, flights delayed heavily, more poweroutage.

Last year at least the open bracket wasnt such kind of farce, but still they had over 3 hours of delay due to having no power. 3 hours!
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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 16 2015 13:22 GMT
#56
whoever made those groups was high as a kite
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 16 2015 13:26 GMT
#57
On July 16 2015 22:22 ClanWars wrote:
whoever made those groups was high as a kite

they already said they did random draw, so blame rng
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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 16 2015 13:45 GMT
#58
On July 16 2015 22:26 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 22:22 ClanWars wrote:
whoever made those groups was high as a kite

they already said they did random draw, so blame rng


and we now see why letting RNG decide your groups without at least attempting to seed is a bad idea.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 16 2015 13:56 GMT
#59
3 protoss and 1 zerg meet in an alley...

rip passion
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
July 16 2015 15:50 GMT
#60
On July 16 2015 22:45 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 22:26 Yhamm wrote:
On July 16 2015 22:22 ClanWars wrote:
whoever made those groups was high as a kite

they already said they did random draw, so blame rng


and we now see why letting RNG decide your groups without at least attempting to seed is a bad idea.


Each group has 1 invited/wild card player, 2 qualified player and 1 from the first stage (well, normally. shit went a bit differently apparently) I don't see how you could seed those in a better way.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
July 16 2015 16:00 GMT
#61
will someone even bother making an LR thread for this? lol
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
July 16 2015 17:56 GMT
#62
Noooo this is a killer for jaedong trying to get enough wcs points for a chance at blizzcon. This pretty much puts him dead in the water for a small chance at making blizzcon.
JD, need I say more? :D
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
July 16 2015 18:29 GMT
#63
4AM, damn. At least TY plays first!
don't wall off against random
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
July 17 2015 00:20 GMT
#64
Shenzen Groups A and B start in 1 hour??

nice, good time for NA viewers
Allred
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
July 17 2015 01:08 GMT
#65
I have never watched IEM before.

Where is the best place to watch?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 17 2015 01:13 GMT
#66
On July 17 2015 10:08 Allred wrote:
I have never watched IEM before.

Where is the best place to watch?


A place to watch would be great.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
July 17 2015 01:14 GMT
#67
On July 17 2015 10:08 Allred wrote:
I have never watched IEM before.

Where is the best place to watch?

Either http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2 or http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2b
don't wall off against random
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 17 2015 01:38 GMT
#68
On July 17 2015 10:14 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 10:08 Allred wrote:
I have never watched IEM before.

Where is the best place to watch?

Either http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2 or http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2b

both at the same time if you have dual monitors
and join us in the LR thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/490370-iem-season-x-shenzhen-day-2
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Milleus
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark29 Posts
July 18 2015 12:08 GMT
#69
i cant see when IEM finals are on TL, is it just me? don't see it as upcoming event on the sidebar

After all said and done, one and one still is ONE.
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
July 18 2015 12:15 GMT
#70
On July 18 2015 21:08 Milleus wrote:
i cant see when IEM finals are on TL, is it just me? don't see it as upcoming event on the sidebar


Not yet. Will surely get added later on.
Start time of playoffs is tomorrow 9:30 CST, so 3:30 CEST.
Milleus
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark29 Posts
July 18 2015 13:02 GMT
#71
@ Pretender58 thanks m8
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