• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:25
CET 03:25
KST 11:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA16
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2170 users

SC2 not featured at DH Bucharest 2015 - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
389 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2015 15:55 GMT
#101
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)


You think other communities would react any other way in the situation sc2 is in ?
It's not the SC2 community, it's human people. Just look at social politics or anything in life, if you take away something they had before, people will complain.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 09 2015 15:56 GMT
#102
On March 10 2015 00:55 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)


You think other communities would react any other way in the situation sc2 is in ?
It's not the SC2 community, it's human people. Just look at social politics or anything in life, if you take away something they had before, people will complain.

Well even if it's human nature it's not a reason to react stupidly without thinking. DH is not taking anything away from us, or more precisely they are, but gave something to balance it out.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 09 2015 15:56 GMT
#103
On March 10 2015 00:50 trada wrote:
well, if I was a dreamhack executive and had to choose between holding a tourney for a game that gives me lets say $5000 profit or a game that gives me $20000 profit I would choose the $20000 everytime. its probably a pure business decision that in some way relates to money. cant blame them really

The smarter business man figures out how to get both working and make $25000 though
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 09 2015 15:56 GMT
#104
On March 10 2015 00:55 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)


You think other communities would react any other way in the situation sc2 is in ?
It's not the SC2 community, it's human people. Just look at social politics or anything in life, if you take away something they had before, people will complain.


actually if you give stuff to other people, some are going to complain too.
Zest fanboy.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
March 09 2015 15:57 GMT
#105
I've said it before and I'll say it again, DH is on its way of going full MLG
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 09 2015 16:00 GMT
#106
I hope at least 1 of the next stops has SC2 or my summer plans would be kind of irrelevant anymore
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
March 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#107
Is this a DreamHack Open event or just a "regular" DreamHack? Iirc there already was a DH event in Romania last year without SC2.
LiquipediaLickyPiddy manager
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 16:02:35
March 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#108
There is still more sc2 going on than I can watch, so I'm not too sad. I still hope we'll see sc2 at other DHs. Although DH did not improve anything in years and has fallen behind IEM, I still enjoy the events a lot.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Titan_Brazil
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil6 Posts
March 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#109
We have to look at the big picture now.

SC2 staff is killing the game for a long time. The last exemple relies on the latest ladder changes that were made and affected nothing, made by Mr. Psione and his staff.

Blizzard will have to make their best not to kill SC2 with the releasing of Legacy of the Void. Reschedule the releasing date but don't kill the game as HOTS already is.

Incompetence by the game staff led to it. It just didnt die yet because of the great progamers and because of the passionate community that is watching over the game. Also the casters are awesome.

I think Day(9), as always, got to see what we are going through today with his crystal ball and left by the front door last year. He must be laughing now about how Blizzard let this happen. Will didnt they replace David Kim by Day(9)?
Tanks dude ! Tanks !
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#110
On March 10 2015 00:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:55 Noocta wrote:
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)


You think other communities would react any other way in the situation sc2 is in ?
It's not the SC2 community, it's human people. Just look at social politics or anything in life, if you take away something they had before, people will complain.

Well even if it's human nature it's not a reason to react stupidly without thinking. DH is not taking anything away from us, or more precisely they are, but gave something to balance it out.


Doesn't matter for public opinion. People overreact, they get scared, that's what they do.
I think most people understand that in the end, it's not a big deal, but you're gonna see venting and rage at least the first few days.
One thing you can say is that the SC2 community is not confident enough in the state of their game to support them forward. Other esport games communities sure don't or have a lot less concerns about that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 09 2015 16:03 GMT
#111
I just realized that the news in the OP dates back to the end of January lol
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26101 Posts
March 09 2015 16:03 GMT
#112
I feel bad, the Romanian scene is pretty big and it must have been sweet for those guys to have the Dreamhack show hitting town with all the Korean and foreign scene talent that came with it.

I hope this isn't a trend that continues. Live events are important, grass roots are also important and they all feed into the scene at the top level.

I don't feel personally affronted by this, I just won't watch. I don't care about other eSport titles or follow them at all so I'll just do something else/watch many of the other SC content out there. However long term we're kidding ourselves if we think that the scene can grow at all with fewer and fewer live events that fans and players alike can attend.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 09 2015 16:04 GMT
#113
On March 10 2015 01:02 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:56 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 10 2015 00:55 Noocta wrote:
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)


You think other communities would react any other way in the situation sc2 is in ?
It's not the SC2 community, it's human people. Just look at social politics or anything in life, if you take away something they had before, people will complain.

Well even if it's human nature it's not a reason to react stupidly without thinking. DH is not taking anything away from us, or more precisely they are, but gave something to balance it out.


Doesn't matter for public opinion. People overreact, they get scared, that's what they do.
I think most people understand that in the end, it's not a big deal, but you're gonna see venting and rage at least the first few days.
One thing you can say is that the SC2 community is not confident enough in the state of their game to support them forward. Other esport games communities sure don't or have a lot less concerns about that.

Ah yes, for sure this kind of reactions has to be expected. I thought you were saying that complaining about it was somehow the "good" reaction
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 16:07:21
March 09 2015 16:04 GMT
#114
I'd be interested in how they are going to make Minecraft a competitive spectacle - if it will be competitive. If it was speed building a working ALU or something it'd be awesome (it won't be that, of course). Chances are it'll be the console version and not the PC one - I wonder if it has a competitive PvP mod now.

Really sad to see a lack of Starcraft, but perhaps (or surely) they'll be hosting LotV tourneys in the future?
**@ YT: SC2POVs at https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2POVsTV | https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/SC2POVs @**
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#115
On March 10 2015 01:03 OtherWorld wrote:
I just realized that the news in the OP dates back to the end of January lol


lmfao, this is pure gold :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
March 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#116
On March 10 2015 00:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:50 trada wrote:
well, if I was a dreamhack executive and had to choose between holding a tourney for a game that gives me lets say $5000 profit or a game that gives me $20000 profit I would choose the $20000 everytime. its probably a pure business decision that in some way relates to money. cant blame them really

The smarter business man figures out how to get both working and make $25000 though


That's assuming the cost of operating is fixed and unchanged after adding an additional game. The additional employees / overhead costs probably had a lot of influence.
TL+ Member
laaaaaaaamee
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia95 Posts
March 09 2015 16:08 GMT
#117
sc2 can never die if it remains in our hearts! that and vods
tfw maru promises to show me good games
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 09 2015 16:09 GMT
#118
Adebisi talked about this on Unfiltered ages ago. DH are focusing their events based on local game support. More CS and Dota in the east, more LoL and SC2 in the west (iirc).
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 09 2015 16:09 GMT
#119
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)

"while not decreasing its support of SC2" Sc2 was at Bucharest last year. I remember, one of my favorite players won. It is no longer there now. That's a decrease yeah?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 16:10:23
March 09 2015 16:10 GMT
#120
On March 10 2015 01:09 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 00:48 Circumstance wrote:
I think I said that this when the GOM stream quality thing first became a topic of discussion, but it's worth repeating now: Every time the SC2 community loses some small convenience, they go out of their way, practically bend over backwards, to demonstrate why they didn't deserve it. And between attacking DH for daring to experiment with their lineup while not decreasing its support of SC2 in any way and bashing completely separate games because of its perceived (and ONLY perceived) threat posed to SC2's involvement, the community has proven that statement right once again. (And that's on the more level-headed website. I can only imagine what Reddit's saying at this point.)

"while not decreasing its support of SC2" Sc2 was at Bucharest last year. I remember, one of my favorite players won. It is no longer there now. That's a decrease yeah?

But they added DH:France this year. +1 - 1 = 0, back to the original state, that is, not decreasing the support to SC2.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 210
ProTech96
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3633
Artosis 769
Shuttle 611
Noble 11
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm125
League of Legends
JimRising 550
Counter-Strike
taco 405
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor166
Other Games
summit1g15239
Maynarde124
ToD11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick982
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 95
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• HerbMon 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4599
Other Games
• Scarra2056
Upcoming Events
OSC
6h 35m
Wardi Open
9h 35m
Monday Night Weeklies
14h 35m
OSC
20h 35m
Wardi Open
1d 9h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.