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ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 16:45:10
March 09 2015 16:43 GMT
#141
Ok, so it's a game of numbers then. Happened to MTV, music industry, PCs being "replaced" by smartphone and tablets (who cares you can't do anything except mail, texting and angry birds). Personally, I still play Dune II as well as Broodwar and SC2, Doom and Quake I and II, even Heretic I. If they don't want to invite Eric Clapton to a show and bring Justin Bieber instead just because audience is greater for the latter, so be it. Nobody can stop Blizzard to transform into just another company that makes disposable games. They need to make money, and if this is the only way, this is their choice.
As well as Dreamhack promoting Minecraft and Heartstone, although this will make Dreamhack just a Hack. At least for me.
Mine more minerals.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 09 2015 16:46 GMT
#142
On March 10 2015 01:32 Deathstar wrote:
10 year olds are the future, and they are also the move proactive in consuming products and media content, so DH getting on that train to capture that market.


The competition itself is irrelevant, because obviously there is no competition in a game like minecraft.

There is none cause you say so? Define some rules, let people play against each other and it will be competitive.
Maybe you don't like it, but still... (i btw have no idea either what they will be doing there, but "mc is for kids" alone is highly ignorant)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 09 2015 16:47 GMT
#143
On March 10 2015 01:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:19 Liliputin wrote:
Whoever is the new main CEO, one thing is clear: Money > tradition... So fucking sad and annoying... Jews everywhere...

Games for 10 year olds over the best RTS game in history of eSports...

User was temp banned for this post.


morhaime is jewish.
most people on this board know SC1 and SC2 are mike's favourite games
.
the only thing that stopped Activision from turning Blizzard into a WoW expansion factory was Uncle Mike.
relative to the money that WoW makes.. SC2 should've never existed.. if we only look at money issues.

fortunately, Uncle Mike doesn't just look at money issues. and he is jewish ? wow! who woulda thought?

the hate that gets directed at Mike's company every day on this board and Uncle Mike still stands there and smiles and says .. "please give us your input.. we need the community".

i do not know how Mr. Morhaime does it. but, i'm glad he does because i'm about to hit the "find match" button.


Seriously, Mike Morhaime should be revered by all SC fans, he saved us. I remember in WCS EU season 1 ro8, in between games they got a skype call going with MM, he was talking about how awesome Mvp v DIMAGA game 2 was (which it was, absolutely insane).
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#144
On March 10 2015 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:32 Deathstar wrote:
10 year olds are the future, and they are also the move proactive in consuming products and media content, so DH getting on that train to capture that market.


The competition itself is irrelevant, because obviously there is no competition in a game like minecraft.

There is none cause you say so? Define some rules, let people play against each other and it will be competitive.
Maybe you don't like it, but still... (i btw have no idea either what they will be doing there, but "mc is for kids" alone is highly ignorant)


No, Minecraft is definitely for children. It's the least-competitive, lowest-skill game that has ever made it to Twitch - but that's okay, because Minecraft is about creativity.

Maybe the competition is more like... art based? Like, each player gets an hour to make something and then a panel of judges give it a score. Like figure skating.

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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2276 Posts
March 09 2015 16:53 GMT
#145
WOW MINECRAFT REALLY
rip esports seriously
Cogito, ergo Toss
SoulmaN__
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany80 Posts
March 09 2015 17:00 GMT
#146
On March 09 2015 23:52 geokilla wrote:
And the death of SC2 in tournaments begins!

I don't understand how Hearthstone and Minecraft is better than SC2 in the esports scene. One is a card game like Yu-Gi-Oh, and the other is... Well I never played Minecraft.

I play both minecraft and HS for fun, but if anyone actually wants to claim they are competetive games, feel free to call them stupid. HS is pure RNG and netdecking since GvG (aside from it being a cardgame, so obviously it's s´really really random).

And minecraft is a casual game if I've ever seen one.
"I love my family." - soO after his 4th consecutive loss in a GSL final :-(
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 09 2015 17:04 GMT
#147
DH France next DH with SC2 then ?
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
March 09 2015 17:04 GMT
#148
From what I can remember, there was a plan to drop SC2 in certain DH but not all. Only those where it was not that popular, like Bucharest.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
March 09 2015 17:11 GMT
#149
On March 10 2015 01:49 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 10 2015 01:32 Deathstar wrote:
10 year olds are the future, and they are also the move proactive in consuming products and media content, so DH getting on that train to capture that market.


The competition itself is irrelevant, because obviously there is no competition in a game like minecraft.

There is none cause you say so? Define some rules, let people play against each other and it will be competitive.
Maybe you don't like it, but still... (i btw have no idea either what they will be doing there, but "mc is for kids" alone is highly ignorant)


No, Minecraft is definitely for children. It's the least-competitive, lowest-skill game that has ever made it to Twitch - but that's okay, because Minecraft is about creativity.

Maybe the competition is more like... art based? Like, each player gets an hour to make something and then a panel of judges give it a score. Like figure skating.



Minecraft can be art though, you know, like if they make a jury to vote for the best realisation over the year, there are some minecraft maps of middle earth or westeros that are pretty insane and certainly not made by 8 years old...

Anyway, back on sc2 they already did this for sc2 France, announcing it at the last minute, the fact they keep testing the waters shows they're not exactly enthusiastic about sc2, well, so what?

I mean it'd be the end of the world, it may even create space for a more motivated oraganizers to take over the vacant premier tournament spot...

DH is not deciding anything about what games are making esport, in the end it's the audience (us) that decides what are the most viewed games are what are the most entertaining. and franckly we can't say we don't have plenty of extremely good games lately...

let's just make them regret to have abandoned it (if it's confirmed) and move to the next tournament. IN short, let's give IEM Katowice crazy audience figures.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
March 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#150
There is already boat loads of tournaments for SC2. Just because one event isn't hosting the game one time doesn't mean it's dying.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
March 09 2015 17:22 GMT
#151
I like minecraft so its not all bad. But I ddidnt know it was competitive? rofl, how does that even work?
NMxSardines
Profile Joined February 2012
77 Posts
March 09 2015 17:22 GMT
#152
Starcraft 2 will remain as it should be - a niche.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 09 2015 17:28 GMT
#153
On March 10 2015 02:22 NMxSardines wrote:
Starcraft 2 will remain as it should be - a niche.


It's not necessarily a bad thing that something considered "niche" becomes widespread and well-known.
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GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 17:30:20
March 09 2015 17:30 GMT
#154
On March 10 2015 01:53 SharkStarcraft wrote:
WOW MINECRAFT REALLY
rip esports seriously


Blizzard killed eSports, with a SC2 that has not enough quality, how it should be, how SC and WC3 had in the past.
프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 09 2015 17:34 GMT
#155
Man a Dreamhack without a starcraft title.
hewo
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 17:40:38
March 09 2015 17:39 GMT
#156
On March 10 2015 00:35 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
I have reliable sources in the scene but I dont't feel like quoting skype-logs right here.

Gonna need some sources tho


I'm sorry I don't want to post stuff that I havent asked for permission to use. Besides, I could fake a skype screenshot any day, so I don't think that would add much to credibiltity.

Upon being asked by a friend of mine, Hellspawn confimed that there will be no sc2 in Bucharest. My friend needed to know for visa reasons.

On March 10 2015 01:03 OtherWorld wrote:
I just realized that the news in the OP dates back to the end of January lol


Thats kinda why I made the post, because I realized this wasn't on here yet... I saw the post a while back but back then it could have been not yet announced.

On March 10 2015 01:03 Wombat_NI wrote:
I feel bad, the Romanian scene is pretty big and it must have been sweet for those guys to have the Dreamhack show hitting town with all the Korean and foreign scene talent that came with it.


The information I got contradicts this. The organizer of DH Bucharest is a Romanian organization called PGL, and they, because the sc2 scene in Romania is basically non-existent, decided to swap sc2 with a game with more local support.

The DH Bucharest lineup last year was sick, but if it does not appeal as much as, say Minecraft, does to the local audience, I completely understand the organizer.

It's important to know that DH isnt responsible for everything at all the DH tour stops, those are "outsourced" to local organizers who get to use the DH brand to attract attention (and I guess DH makes quite a bit from it). Local organizers obviously have a say about their event.

On March 10 2015 01:22 Ragnarork wrote:
So this time it's not like DH:France? It's not just a "we don't announce it yet"?


Look above.

On March 10 2015 01:49 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 10 2015 01:32 Deathstar wrote:
10 year olds are the future, and they are also the move proactive in consuming products and media content, so DH getting on that train to capture that market.


The competition itself is irrelevant, because obviously there is no competition in a game like minecraft.

There is none cause you say so? Define some rules, let people play against each other and it will be competitive.
Maybe you don't like it, but still... (i btw have no idea either what they will be doing there, but "mc is for kids" alone is highly ignorant)

Maybe the competition is more like... art based? Like, each player gets an hour to make something and then a panel of judges give it a score. Like figure skating.


I'll just note that I've been to several LANs where a theme is released and teams submit their creative-mode made world within a deadline (usually quite long). It's impressive what some people manage to put together.
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hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
March 09 2015 17:39 GMT
#157
Not sure if there's correlation, but the last Dreamhack I watched (which was the first without Ohlen) seemed pretty crappy in terms of quality. Even the SC2 casters didn't seem like they were taking it all that seriously. I even watched some of the other games and didn't feel like they were doing that great of a job.

I think this is actually a blessing in disguise. Dreamhack went down in quality to me lately, so I'm glad they stopped showing SC2. It will survive in other tournaments, like ESL One.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
March 09 2015 17:40 GMT
#158
Makes sense, nobody wants to watch sc2 in its current state, blizzard will have a lot of work to make lotv esports "cool" again.
SonGoku
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany152 Posts
March 09 2015 17:41 GMT
#159
can we pls hatespam all DH bosses emails?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 09 2015 17:44 GMT
#160
On March 10 2015 02:40 anessie wrote:
Makes sense, nobody wants to watch sc2 in its current state, blizzard will have a lot of work to make lotv esports "cool" again.


But I love to watch sc2 in its current state .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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