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[Code S] Ro16 Grp C: When It Rains - S1 2015

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[Code S] Ro16 Grp C: When It Rains - S1 2015

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Graphics bylichter
February 25th, 2015 01:44 GMT
2015 GSL Season 1

GSL Season One
Code S



When It Rains
Ro16 Group C:
Rain, Rogue, Dream, Solar

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

When It Rains


by munch

If there’s one word to describe the Korean scene in Starcraft 2, it’s ambitious. Everyone who makes it to Code S burns with the ambition to win, to be the best. No one in Group C is here to make up the numbers, but only two will make it to the playoffs.

It’s been a quiet start for (P)Rain this year. Elimination in the qualifiers dashed his hopes for NSSL gold, and his move away from KeSPA denied us the standard weekly appearance in Proleague. Aside from a 2-3 loss to Soulkey at IEM Taipei and a couple of appearances in online cups, our only glimpses of him have come in the GSL Round of 32. What we've seen so far should make the rest of the group very scared. So far he has looked in assertive form. He dealt Life one of his only 2 extended series losses since Dreamhack Winter and breezed past Classic and Harstem at IEM Tapiei. However, his quarterfinal loss to Soulkey revealed a weakness in his unshakable defense, as Soulkey’s swarm hosts caused him considerable problems. Both Solar and Rogue are willing to settle down to long swarm host games, and if Rain hasn't worked on this possibility then it might be a tough night for him.

Prior to 2015, (Z)Rogue flitted constantly between Code A and the early stages of Code S. This year he’s one group away from making it to the playoff stages of both starleagues, a laudable achievement that would match him with Life. Rogue has evolved from a crucial part of Jin Air’s Proleague jigsaw to a credible threat in individual leagues. His run in the NSSL showcased his form in microcosm: extremely strong play against zerg and terran, contrasted with a relative weakness against aggressive protoss. Rogue has occasionally been criticized for his lack of decisive play under pressure, and there wasn't a more succinct demonstration than his capitulation against Stats in the Ro8. It will be interesting to see how hard his loss to Stats, and also his defeat at the hands of Dark in the Proleague R1 Finals, has hit him.

Speaking of dual Starleague hopefuls, (T)Dream is also on the warpath for an unprecedented achievement. Much like Rogue, Dream has taken full advantage of the uncertainty that clouded the Korean scene at the start of the year. Fortunately, he is the sole Terran in this group; despite his victory against Maru in the NSSL, his TvT remains unconvincing. On the other hand, his TvZ has been terrifying. After catching glimpses of his prowess back in 2013 ATC (when he played out a gloriously scrappy match against Scarlett) he has delivered the goods every time this year, with particularly impressive victories against Dark and Leenock. It’s true that we haven’t seen much of him—he rarely plays online matches, with the exception of IEM qualifiers—but what we have seen has justified the hype.

After his incredibly successful runs last year, it’s odd to view (Z)Solar as the outright underdog. That’s what an 0-6 record in Proleague will do to you. He’s lost to cheese, he’s lost in macro games, and he’s lost against representatives of all three races. It’s baffling that such a successful player, the linchpin of his team, has crumbled so hard in a format that he competently tackled last season.

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What's truly bizarre is that his results in other competitions haven’t been affected by this failure. He’s continued to mop up in online play, reaching the finals in both of his recent Olimoleague appearances, as well as looking confident in the previous stage of GSL. With every loss in Proleague and every success elsewhere, it’s becoming more and more difficult to tell which Solar is the dominant one. Time will tell but until then, Solar remains a mystery.

Predictions

Rogue’s exit from NSSL last Thursday will have taken a toll on his psyche. Brutalized 3-0 in one of the shortest playoff matches we've seen in a while, he looked incapable of dealing with Stats’ aggression. Luckily, Rain is a different brand of protoss; unfortunately, that doesn't make him any less lethal. Indeed, Rain just seems on a different level compared to the other three members of the group, and I expect him to progress with ease. Solar will probably be highly aggressive in the lower bracket, and I think he's got a shot at taking out Rogue. However, Dream's TvZ simply seems too hot to handle at the moment, and he'll likely pour on the misery on the two struggling zergs.

Rain > Rogue
Dream > Solar
Rain > Dream
Rogue < Solar
Dream > Solar

(P)Rain and (T)Dream to advance.

Writers: munch.
Editors: CosmicSpiral.
Graphics: lichter.
Photo: GOMeXP.
Stats: Aligulac
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
February 25 2015 01:48 GMT
#2
Whatever happens, Solar isn't getting through.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
February 25 2015 01:50 GMT
#3
we are in agreement munchkin, nice picture btw
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 25 2015 01:50 GMT
#4
pls don't suck solar :[
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
February 25 2015 01:52 GMT
#5
I've a feeling that Solar is going to upset big time, but maybe that's just me.

Rain advancing seems pretty certain though, does anyone know where he practices now that he's left SKT?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 25 2015 01:53 GMT
#6
Rain's head looks like it's not attatched to his body in that pic.

Let's go Rain! And Dream! ............ and Solar! and I also like Rogue. Rain's groups always end up having all the players i like , so rough.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
February 25 2015 01:58 GMT
#7
Rain and Rogue advancing imo.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
February 25 2015 01:58 GMT
#8
I have a Dream that when it rains...pashun will be restored.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
February 25 2015 02:03 GMT
#9
I go with Rain and Rogue
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
February 25 2015 02:19 GMT
#10
Rain, the forever overwhelming favorite that somehow hits roadblocks left and right.

Gogo Rain/Dream, probably going to be Rain guRoe
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stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
February 25 2015 02:20 GMT
#11
Finally! That break between groups was too long! (for spectators)
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
February 25 2015 02:26 GMT
#12
I liquibetted Rain and Solar, and I stand by it. I'm not on the Dream hype train, and Solar's proven that the best-of format is where he succeeds.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
February 25 2015 02:35 GMT
#13
Rogue last in this group?? Don't think so.
Rain and Rogue imo.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 02:37 GMT
#14
rogue has been playing pretty well recently.

but zerg woes so probably a good prediction.
Zerg for Life
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 25 2015 02:49 GMT
#15
My boy Rogue will advance alongside of Dream.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
February 25 2015 03:04 GMT
#16
On February 25 2015 11:26 Circumstance wrote:
I liquibetted Rain and Solar, and I stand by it. I'm not on the Dream hype train, and Solar's proven that the best-of format is where he succeeds.

never underestimate the dreamjwa, there aren't any terrans here
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 25 2015 03:04 GMT
#17
Life is going it alone in the ro8.

Rain/Dream as predicted (gonna regret this..).
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
February 25 2015 03:18 GMT
#18
gogo Rain, you can do this!!!!
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
February 25 2015 03:20 GMT
#19
of all the groups, this one seems the most straightforward for who will advanced.
which probably means there will be upsets
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 25 2015 03:29 GMT
#20
Rain 2-1 Rogue
Dream 2-0 Solar
Rain 2-0 Dream
Rogue 2-0 Solar
Rogue 2-1 Dream

Rain & Rogue to advance.
Writermaru pls
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
February 25 2015 03:34 GMT
#21
On February 25 2015 12:20 Dragoonstorm7 wrote:
of all the groups, this one seems the most straightforward for who will advanced.
which probably means there will be upsets

seriously? i wouldnt be surprised who won
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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
February 25 2015 03:44 GMT
#22
Solar and Rain to advance here, in that order.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 25 2015 03:48 GMT
#23
I picked Dream but I'm not too confident in it. Might be caught up in some recent hype
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
February 25 2015 03:58 GMT
#24
gogo Dream! 4-0!
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MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
February 25 2015 04:07 GMT
#25
I get the feeling Rain will probably lose in the winners match to Dream and then proceed to be eliminated by Solar who will surprise everyone and make it through.

Dream and Solar to advance I think.
The world wants to be deceived
Picasso
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)52 Posts
February 25 2015 04:20 GMT
#26
Just can't see Rain not making it out of this group
VerifyDeezNuts
Profile Joined February 2012
United States21 Posts
February 25 2015 04:32 GMT
#27
Dream and Solar advance
Hold Dat
FASSW
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden49 Posts
February 25 2015 04:34 GMT
#28
Why is Rain such a beast? ^~^
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 25 2015 04:40 GMT
#29
Oh shit totally forgot Code S started up again tonight.
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
February 25 2015 04:40 GMT
#30
Not in the mood for a huge upset. Please advance Rain.
why?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 25 2015 05:27 GMT
#31
Dream pls
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 25 2015 05:58 GMT
#32
I approve of this prediction
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
February 25 2015 06:01 GMT
#33
Solar handed Rain his first HotS loss in a non mirror match-up.

After failing miserably in team league, the starcraft gods are gonna give him this individual league playoff berth.

Things look good for Solar.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
February 25 2015 06:04 GMT
#34
Dream and Solar
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SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
February 25 2015 06:53 GMT
#35
Hopefully Rain plays better than he did against Soulkey... him losing IEM was such a big blow in my confidence for him. That was supposed to be his tournament
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
February 25 2015 06:58 GMT
#36
dream and rouge to advance
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 25 2015 07:28 GMT
#37
Well it seems people have very high expectations of Rain, I don't. sure he has a chance to get out of this group but he is not by far and away the favorite he is rather neck and neck with the rest of the group. I'd consider Solar a slight underdog but the group otherwise very even.

My bet is on Dream and Rogue!
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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 07:55:58
February 25 2015 07:55 GMT
#38
The TL predictions match my liquibets... RIP my liquibets I guess.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 25 2015 08:04 GMT
#39
This is going to be hard to watch in terms of image quality (even if you've subbed) after the WCS broadcasts. But game quality and Tastosis will make up for it. Go Rain/ Dream!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
February 25 2015 08:09 GMT
#40
(P)Rain 2-0 (Z)Rogue
(T)Dream 1-2 (Z)Solar
(P)Rain 1-2 (Z)Solar
(Z)Rogue 0-2 (T)Dream
(P)Rain 1-2 (T)Dream
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 25 2015 08:19 GMT
#41
I'm thinking Rain and Rogue
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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
February 25 2015 08:45 GMT
#42
No LR thread hero so far ?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 25 2015 08:51 GMT
#43
On February 25 2015 17:45 LoneYoShi wrote:
No LR thread hero so far ?

I guess I can make 1 if nobody else wants to
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 10:48:29
February 25 2015 10:47 GMT
#44
(P)Rain 1-2 (Z)Rogue
(T)Dream 2-0 (Z)Solar
(P)Rain 2-0 (Z)Solar
(T)Dream 2-1 (Z)Rogue
(P)Rain 2-1 (Z)Rogue

(T)Dream and (P)Rain to advance.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 11:37:54
February 25 2015 11:37 GMT
#45
It's the winner's match and there are only 3 pages of LR thread? Oo
edit : whoops
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kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
February 25 2015 11:39 GMT
#46
everybody so wrong, lol! who would´ve thought?! gj solar!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 11:45:57
February 25 2015 11:40 GMT
#47
Solar isn't out of the group yet! I still hope that he's going to drop out.

Edit: Nevermind.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
franky1992
Profile Joined October 2014
Italy10 Posts
February 25 2015 11:46 GMT
#48
This predictions have wastly overestimated Rain's PvZ. Rain has some weakness. I think this group, because of it seems easy, can show these weakness.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 25 2015 11:54 GMT
#49
On February 25 2015 20:46 franky1992 wrote:
This predictions have wastly overestimated Rain's PvZ. Rain has some weakness. I think this group, because of it seems easy, can show these weakness.

Captain Hindsight to the rescue!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
February 25 2015 13:00 GMT
#50
On February 25 2015 20:54 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 20:46 franky1992 wrote:
This predictions have wastly overestimated Rain's PvZ. Rain has some weakness. I think this group, because of it seems easy, can show these weakness.

Captain Hindsight to the rescue!

well, to be fair. i think his comment wastely overestimated prediction's validity. i think my comment, because it seems written, can show these flaws.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
February 25 2015 13:07 GMT
#51
NICE PREDICTIONS GUYS
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
ArgusDreamer
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada63 Posts
February 25 2015 13:08 GMT
#52
Damn rogue's play is so crisp. That was some of the best Zvt i've seen all year. Not the most exciting match...but damn his play was so cut throat but still so refined. Loved it.
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franky1992
Profile Joined October 2014
Italy10 Posts
February 25 2015 13:09 GMT
#53
Of course i had to write what i thought before the group started :D Sorry :\
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 25 2015 13:12 GMT
#54
That moment when the predictions literally run in the opposite direction with the results...
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
February 25 2015 13:15 GMT
#55
Nice predictions, guys.
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Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
February 25 2015 13:43 GMT
#56
RIP Liquibet
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 25 2015 13:52 GMT
#57
Rip predictions
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
February 25 2015 13:54 GMT
#58
On February 25 2015 19:47 Elentos wrote:
(P)Rain 1-2 (Z)Rogue
(T)Dream 2-0 (Z)Solar
(P)Rain 2-0 (Z)Solar
(T)Dream 2-1 (Z)Rogue
(P)Rain 2-1 (Z)Rogue

(T)Dream and (P)Rain to advance.

Well, I knew it wouldn't happen like this, but damnit I didn't want to see another ZvZ.
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Chylvain
Profile Joined July 2012
France43 Posts
February 25 2015 16:11 GMT
#59
RIP predictions
RIP Liquibet
RIP thecrazymunchkin

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
February 25 2015 16:13 GMT
#60
soooo i lost this season of liquibet
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
February 25 2015 16:28 GMT
#61
Thecrazymunchkin is Artosis' alt on TL comfirmed
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
February 25 2015 17:26 GMT
#62
Oops
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
February 25 2015 17:30 GMT
#63
#PredictionSkill

No, seriously, don't take it personally, I like the stuff you put up.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 17:43:27
February 25 2015 17:43 GMT
#64
On February 26 2015 02:30 fezvez wrote:
#PredictionSkill

No, seriously, don't take it personally, I like the stuff you put up.


Not my finest hour :[

But thanks!
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
February 25 2015 17:53 GMT
#65
welp
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 18:58:10
February 25 2015 18:57 GMT
#66
Well, it has to be said: It pours
I Protoss winner, could it be?
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
February 25 2015 19:16 GMT
#67
Lol, Dat prediction!
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 25 2015 19:17 GMT
#68
On February 26 2015 02:43 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 02:30 fezvez wrote:
#PredictionSkill

No, seriously, don't take it personally, I like the stuff you put up.


Not my finest hour :[

But thanks!

Don't worry, with that prediction you are now truly a TL writer.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#69
On February 25 2015 12:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life is going it alone in the ro8.

Rain/Dream as predicted (gonna regret this..).


yep :/
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odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
February 25 2015 20:39 GMT
#70
On February 26 2015 02:43 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 02:30 fezvez wrote:
#PredictionSkill

No, seriously, don't take it personally, I like the stuff you put up.


Not my finest hour :[

But thanks!

dont worry. as long as u keep ur total prediction failure rate (like 2 out of 4 players wrong) below 25%. its statistically proven that ur predictions are better than a coinflip. and even if ur failure rat gets higher. as long as its below 100% ur still better than artosis. so go for it!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
February 26 2015 04:56 GMT
#71
That picture is epic lol, Gogo solar!
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XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
February 26 2015 15:06 GMT
#72
So funny an good to see predictions all wrong
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