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On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence?
The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple.
I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype.
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On January 09 2015 23:02 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 22:59 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 22:57 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:54 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 22:50 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:49 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. But I imagine Blizzard only cares about viewer numbers. Kinda strange to fund a tournaments price pool with these quality settings while (all the!) others offer better, including the ones who arrange their own price pool.. What does Blizzard have to do with this? They have nothing to do with GOM. Like I said; They're funding their price pool. I'm just saying that I can't imagine them being happy about this. I'm adding a reason for this maybe being a stupid move by Gom. Well it doesn't matter if Blizzard funds the prize pool. If they can't run GSL because it doesn't break even then what? Well, then the competition takes over. Competition? It's about the fact that running a starcraft 2 league in korea isnt profitable if noone wants to pay for it. I feel like all we have here are butthurt people who used to have awesome content for free. These people are now sad because it turns out nothing is actually free.
Every esports stream of every high quality tournament is actually free, except for GSL now. This is 2015 and they have to find other ways to get subs, a high quality stream for free is a prerequisite to stay competitive and have the chance for success in the future.
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On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple.
I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype.
But I don't have to. There's competition. See the risk they're taking with this now?
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On January 09 2015 23:09 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple.
I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. But I don't have to. There's competition. See the risk they're taking with this now?
What risk? If you weren't subscribed you weren't giving them any money anyway.
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On January 09 2015 23:10 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:09 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple.
I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. But I don't have to. There's competition. See the risk they're taking with this now? What risk? If you weren't subscribed you weren't giving them any money anyway.
- Losing viewers
- Blizzard, an unmissable partner, maybe not being happy with this and pulling their support?
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On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple. I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype.
I'm sure you are into starcraft for not more then 4 years if your understanding is based on Artosis and Tasteless being gods.
They were people just like 'madals and pughy' years ago who had the chance to prove and improve, living their dream, not stealing from your pocket.
As someone wrote there - if gom is alive because of the subscription payments they won't be so alive and expanding.
If they can't count their money they can't be alive and expanding as well.
Today's business understanding is not based on stealing money from the people who keep you alive.
Either their ecommerce team is stupid or using old approaches that are abandoned for a reason in nowadays prosperous companies.
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Its a normal practice in streaming events:
First is full quality free, once you have enough viewers you ask for a payment. Its been like that for a few years now, dont know why people still are surprised about stuff like this.
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^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose.
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On January 09 2015 23:12 BlueStar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple. I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. I'm sure you are into starcraft for not more then 4 years if your understanding is based on Artosis and Tasteless being gods. They were people just like madals and pughy years ago who had the chance to prove and improve, living their dream, not stealing from your pocket. As someone wrote there - if gom is alive because of the subscription payments they won't be so alive and expanding. If they can't count their money they can't be alive and expanding as well. Today's business understanding is not based on stealing money from the people who keep you alive. Either their ecommerce team is stupid or using old approaches that are abandoned for a reason in nowadays prosperous companies. .
They aren't stealing from anyone. They never took anything you owned or paid for.
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On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose.
GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges.
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On January 09 2015 23:14 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:12 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple. I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. I'm sure you are into starcraft for not more then 4 years if your understanding is based on Artosis and Tasteless being gods. They were people just like madals and pughy years ago who had the chance to prove and improve, living their dream, not stealing from your pocket. As someone wrote there - if gom is alive because of the subscription payments they won't be so alive and expanding. If they can't count their money they can't be alive and expanding as well. Today's business understanding is not based on stealing money from the people who keep you alive. Either their ecommerce team is stupid or using old approaches that are abandoned for a reason in nowadays prosperous companies. . They aren't stealing from anyone. They never took anything you owned or paid for.
I finished what i had to write. If you want to explain you each written word, better get on the books and start reading science.
Metaphors are everywhere.
Gom are doing bad.
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On January 09 2015 23:16 BlueStar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:14 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:12 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple. I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. I'm sure you are into starcraft for not more then 4 years if your understanding is based on Artosis and Tasteless being gods. They were people just like madals and pughy years ago who had the chance to prove and improve, living their dream, not stealing from your pocket. As someone wrote there - if gom is alive because of the subscription payments they won't be so alive and expanding. If they can't count their money they can't be alive and expanding as well. Today's business understanding is not based on stealing money from the people who keep you alive. Either their ecommerce team is stupid or using old approaches that are abandoned for a reason in nowadays prosperous companies. . They aren't stealing from anyone. They never took anything you owned or paid for. I finished what i had to write. If you want to explain you each written word, better get on the books and start reading science. Metaphors are everywhere. Gom are doing bad.
I study physics, thank you very much. If all you had were insults, then responding to your posts was my mistake from the start. I'm sorry, won't happen again.
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Is there a technical definition for "non-major company" or is that simply where you saw fit to draw the "please excuse Gom here" line? Furthermore, do you really think this decision will increase Gom's revenue? If the past is any indication, it won't and this will simply hurt viewership more, further justifying folks pissed at Gom's incompetence.
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On January 09 2015 23:15 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose. GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges.
Because they're a small company? That just doesn't matter. If you can't offer a similar product for similar prices it's not going to work. They aren't the only Korean league any more. You could argue that GSL is (a lot) better but I don't think a lot of people would agree with that.
Edit: Come on guys, please keep the discussion civil
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On January 09 2015 23:20 farvacola wrote:
Is there a technical definition for "non-major company" or is that simply where you saw fit to draw the "please excuse Gom here" line? Furthermore, do you really think this decision will increase Gom's revenue? If the past is any indication, it won't and this will simply hurt viewership more, further justifying folks pissed at Gom's incompetence.
I suggest you look up who SpoTV are. It's easy to see they're not in the same league.
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On January 09 2015 23:17 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:16 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 23:14 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:12 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 23:06 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:03 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:42 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 22:41 BlueStar wrote:On January 09 2015 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Much more surprising is that they still do anything for SC2 with 15k~ish viewers on twitch. Though I don't know if thats all viewers...
I guess monetizing so heavily is the only way they can make it profitable...? Or add sponsors? Or involve community into sponsor relationship in order to get more money from the sponsors? Or 10239 different things that can anyone think about, not just showing the middle finger to the people because of whom you are alive...? :D Just imagine what is possible. They've tried to get sponsors in the past but struggled, even when sc2 was bigger. Also they aren't alive because of people who watched for free on 480p. They are alive because of subscribers. Just to clarify myself - they are alive because of starcraft - starcraft is alive because of the people who play starcraft - if they want to pitch new customers they must consider how to involve more people in their broadcasts and probably attract people into their sales funnel if their service is worthy. Instead they are tightening the sales funnel by pushing away some of their current viewers and taking the money from their hardcore followers. With such approach they can only reduce the people who will to pay... each time the viewers are getting less and less. Coincidence? The viewers are getting less overall. If you want to keep the same content but with a smaller scene, more people have to pay. It's quite simple. I'm sure we could get a free HD stream for foreigners if it was casted by madals&pughy from their basements over skype. I'm sure you are into starcraft for not more then 4 years if your understanding is based on Artosis and Tasteless being gods. They were people just like madals and pughy years ago who had the chance to prove and improve, living their dream, not stealing from your pocket. As someone wrote there - if gom is alive because of the subscription payments they won't be so alive and expanding. If they can't count their money they can't be alive and expanding as well. Today's business understanding is not based on stealing money from the people who keep you alive. Either their ecommerce team is stupid or using old approaches that are abandoned for a reason in nowadays prosperous companies. . They aren't stealing from anyone. They never took anything you owned or paid for. I finished what i had to write. If you want to explain you each written word, better get on the books and start reading science. Metaphors are everywhere. Gom are doing bad. I study physics, thank you very much. If all you had were insults, then responding to your posts was my mistake from the start. I'm sorry, won't happen again.
Just checked what is on top of reddit.
Please, read the top comments for me - http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2rucyx/what_the_actual_fuck_gsl/
After that read what I've written.
Just try to think out of the box you are getting yourself in.
P.S. At least brings me the old memories of SCBW streams since ''04. Boxer vs Yellow GOGO !!
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On January 09 2015 23:21 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:15 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose. GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges. Because they're a small company? That just doesn't matter. If you can't offer a similar product for similar prices it's not going to work. They aren't the only Korean league any more. You could argue that GSL is (a lot) better but I don't think a lot of people would agree with that.
This is what I don't really get. The paid for product is actually on par with SpoTVs. It's the free product that no one pays for that is now inferior from GOM. What you get for your money is actually not worse because of this.
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On January 09 2015 23:23 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:21 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 23:15 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose. GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges. Because they're a small company? That just doesn't matter. If you can't offer a similar product for similar prices it's not going to work. They aren't the only Korean league any more. You could argue that GSL is (a lot) better but I don't think a lot of people would agree with that. This is what I don't really get. The paid for product is actually on par with SpoTVs. It's the free product that no one pays for that is now inferior from GOM. What you get for your money is actually not worse because of this.
But it is. It got more expensive.
And there's ad revenue. Losing viewers will mean losing that as well although I know that the ad revenue isn't great.
But yeah, I think enough is said about the topic. I'm curious to know what Blizzard thinks of this. Hopefully they'll make a statement about it.
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On January 09 2015 23:23 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:21 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 23:15 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose. GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges. Because they're a small company? That just doesn't matter. If you can't offer a similar product for similar prices it's not going to work. They aren't the only Korean league any more. You could argue that GSL is (a lot) better but I don't think a lot of people would agree with that. This is what I don't really get. The paid for product is actually on par with SpoTVs. It's the free product that no one pays for that is now inferior from GOM. What you get for your money is actually not worse because of this.
It sounds like you are arguing that a viewer that did not sub is of no value.
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On January 09 2015 23:32 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:23 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:21 Penev wrote:On January 09 2015 23:15 nkr wrote:On January 09 2015 23:13 farvacola wrote:
^this is simply untrue lol
nkr is still unable to account for the fact that Gom is literally the only SC2 broadcaster in the world to offer such a low quality stream option, including Kespa productions lol. Everyone needs an advocate, I suppose. GOM is also the only non-major company to broadcast a weekly Sc2 league out of Korea. Comparing them to SpoTV is comparing apples to oranges. Because they're a small company? That just doesn't matter. If you can't offer a similar product for similar prices it's not going to work. They aren't the only Korean league any more. You could argue that GSL is (a lot) better but I don't think a lot of people would agree with that. This is what I don't really get. The paid for product is actually on par with SpoTVs. It's the free product that no one pays for that is now inferior from GOM. What you get for your money is actually not worse because of this. It sounds like you are arguing that a viewer that did not sub is of no value.
Not of no value, but of less value.
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