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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
January 09 2015 15:18 GMT
#181
On January 09 2015 20:20 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 20:17 Frankenberry wrote:
On January 09 2015 20:17 RHoudini wrote:
On January 09 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:
On January 09 2015 19:45 RHoudini wrote:
You can always watch the Youtube (Korean) video.
If you get a region-block (as I do), there are browser extensions like Hola http://hola.org/ that allow you to proxy around the world (pretend that you're viewing from Korea).

Thanks but it's says their server is down..

Edit: *Korean

I'm currently watching the Youtube stream, everything seems to work fine.


link please


You can use Hola to get around the region-block.


wow but this is literary genocide!
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Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
January 09 2015 15:18 GMT
#182
On January 10 2015 00:05 Taronar wrote:
I don't really understand that Koreans can just watch source on youtube for free. Basicly means that English stream has to pay for itself. New production costs which come up with English stream is just Tasteless and Artosis (and some material costs) so that can't be such a huge investment. Invest more in finding sponsors even in EU and AM should really fix that part up... Having low quality streams like that while begging for money in order to even continue to exist is just really bad business

Well, though SC2 hasn't exactly been a huge hit with Korean fans, there are simply far more monetization options for GOM when it comes to those Korean fans. For example finals tickets, merchandise, and of course many of the sponsors GOM do manage to scrape up are often national brands, or international ones without the reach to really get anything from advertising to some German or Canadian viewer across the globe. Now yeah, this does mean that English content should account for a small part of their revenue if they want to succeed as a business, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't monetize it at all. And the most obvious -way they have to do so is through stream subscriptions. Obviously providing free decent quality streams has its own benefits and IMO is smarter, but them's the breaks.
ice0cream
Profile Joined December 2014
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 15:27:14
January 09 2015 15:26 GMT
#183
I don't really see the point of paywall. Pretty much everyone uses torret/proxy/vpn/piratebay/restream/whatever is out there anyway. I guess a few subbed but is that even much (wasn't on twitch stream so wasn't sure how many did)? If they are counting on this to do something financially they should reconsider their options.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 09 2015 15:31 GMT
#184
paying monthly multimedia stuff like TV canals or netflix or sky or whatever are going expensive from time to time. Never seen cheaper.

I remember paying 20€ for watching bundesliga + premier league + CL + Seria A + Premiera division ten years ago. Today only Bundesliga costs 15€ now. If you want CL (inclusive 2-3 premier league games weekly) costs another 10€ monthly. premiera div and seria A are nonexistent. If you want both in HD you have to pay another 10€.
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
January 09 2015 15:40 GMT
#185
It's $13 people. $13 frickin' dollars. That's less than a beer in Denmark.
why?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 09 2015 15:47 GMT
#186
GOM is fucking pathetic these days.
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1177 Posts
January 09 2015 15:48 GMT
#187
On January 10 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
paying monthly multimedia stuff like TV canals or netflix or sky or whatever are going expensive from time to time. Never seen cheaper.

I remember paying 20€ for watching bundesliga + premier league + CL + Seria A + Premiera division ten years ago. Today only Bundesliga costs 15€ now. If you want CL (inclusive 2-3 premier league games weekly) costs another 10€ monthly. premiera div and seria A are nonexistent. If you want both in HD you have to pay another 10€.


^Agree

To me - if I want to watch CL - I watch the channel it's broadcasted on.
If I want to watch bundes liga or other league - just I'm watching the different channel that is broadcasting it.
- Different ways to provide the same service to different people, based on their economy model and aligning their needs.

In the end everyone gets his money and everyone gets their desired service.

Making people pay more for the same service, when there are new competitors who provide similar or even better service - this is complete nonsense.
+ blocking yourself to attract new potential viewers (potential customers) that is the top of the nonsense.

Gom are cool for bringing the korean pros in understandable (english) way. But they need to rethink their payment strategy.
- Am still not sure if they just want to shift their viewers to another game instead of SC2, That could be pity.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 09 2015 15:48 GMT
#188
On January 10 2015 00:47 Lorning wrote:
GOM is fucking pathetic these days.

You really are the new Shellbot
I Protoss winner, could it be?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 09 2015 15:54 GMT
#189
On January 10 2015 00:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:47 Lorning wrote:
GOM is fucking pathetic these days.

You really are the new Shellbot

Lornbot just needs a red name now.
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 15:57:55
January 09 2015 15:57 GMT
#190
+ If gom were smart enough they'd develop some sort of loyalty system through the years and provide value to their long term customers in alternate way by not making the wide audience suffer.


//just read a golden post on reddit:
If GOM gives 0 fucks i give 0 bucks.

Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 09 2015 15:59 GMT
#191
How is this even a thing in 2015 I can't understand.

You can't expect people to pay that much to watch one league, when all the others games on the market provide free HD streams.
Putting stream quality behind paywalls isn't something that is a viable business practice in this day and age, the people at their marketing division need to wake the fuck up.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 09 2015 16:01 GMT
#192
It's seriously absolutely silly that we're still dealing with GOM and there money-grubbing bullshit in 2015. In 2010 this wasn't considered acceptable, but we had no other alternatives. Now we do, S2SL and Proleague give us our Korean scene fix enough. I'm not a quality maniac, I can watch medium happily, but the fact that they have the audacity to make us pay $14 a month of medium quality is going to make me not watch GSL.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 09 2015 16:13 GMT
#193
On January 10 2015 00:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:47 Lorning wrote:
GOM is fucking pathetic these days.

You really are the new Shellbot

I've been hating on GOM for a while now, and not without reason
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
January 09 2015 16:15 GMT
#194
I can understand why they are doing it, they need the $$$ somehow. They don't get a lot of viewers compared to other games. Might as well milk the dedicated crowd. But as people said earlier this is 2015 and there are many alternatives for gsl. As much as i get nostalgic from watching tastosis cast marineking games in 360p(minus the orange borders) i will keep it this way and won't subscribe.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
January 09 2015 16:16 GMT
#195
On January 10 2015 01:13 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:48 Penev wrote:
On January 10 2015 00:47 Lorning wrote:
GOM is fucking pathetic these days.

You really are the new Shellbot

I've been hating on GOM for a while now, and not without reason

Come and watch the French stream !
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
January 09 2015 16:16 GMT
#196
On January 10 2015 00:40 caznitch wrote:
It's $13 people. $13 frickin' dollars. That's less than a beer in Denmark.

Depends on where you buy it
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 09 2015 16:19 GMT
#197
I'll probably just sub for playoffs and watch the VODs of the rest.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 09 2015 16:20 GMT
#198
On January 10 2015 00:40 caznitch wrote:
It's $13 people. $13 frickin' dollars. That's less than a beer in Denmark.


However it's about 13 beers in the Czech Republic. Honestly, it's not even that much (just beer is so cheap here), but with so much competiion out there, I don't really see myself having enough time to watch GSL (especially given the ever-unpleasant time slot for Europe) to pay even that much.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
January 09 2015 16:27 GMT
#199
On January 10 2015 01:19 Ej_ wrote:
I'll probably just sub for playoffs and watch the VODs of the rest.

Isn't the sub per GSL season? So you'll watch most of the season with low quality on principle but then pay for the season to watch the playoffs?
The frumious Bandersnatch
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#200
On January 09 2015 20:28 Clonester wrote:
Hola to slow and other unbreakers dont use korean proxys. Maybe Europe to Korea is still such a bad connection.

So bye bye GSL. Maybe i watch the French Rebroadcasts, but thats it. SpoTV will take over for you, I dont need you anymore.

The_Templar does often a liveticker in the thread, but wouldnt it be cool if there would be official liveticker on the TL Mainpage, easy to acces, easy to read, because it is hard to follow The_Templars livereports during 100 pages of threads.

I won't frequently be able to Live Report GSL because I have an 8am class on those days.
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