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Belgica34432 Posts
Blizzard just released a statement announcing the ladder map pool will revert back to the Season 3 maps. An announcement of 4 new ladder maps (which will be used in Season 1 2015) was also included
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/15538986466
On Friday, December 19, we'll be making some changes to the Season 4 map pool and also offer a preview on the new 1v1 maps for the upcoming season. The details on the changes are as follows: - The current ladder map pool will be reverted to the Season 3 map pool.
- Four new 1v1 maps for the upcoming 2015 Season 1 ladder will be published to the Custom Games list.
We previously mentioned our intention to update the Season 4 map pool earlier than the season end date due to community feedback. We’ve been testing the new 2015 Season 1 maps with the hope that this early update would include next season’s new maps. Unfortunately, we’ve run into issues with our testing and the maps won’t be available to add to the ladder prior to the season start. There are various concerns not only with performance, but also potential map bugs that could cause issues in gameplay. This obviously isn’t an experience we want for everyone to have on ladder, and we plan to continue our work on these maps to have them ready in time for the start of next season. While we couldn’t get the maps to a state where we felt they were ladder-ready, we still wanted to allow players to experience the maps early and offer feedback before they’re finalized. For this reason, we’ll be uploading the unfinished maps to the Custom Games list when we update the ladder map pool. While the maps may still have issues that could prevent a smooth experience in all games, we expect that some players will still enjoy playing on the maps to get early preparation for the 2015 Season 1. Just please keep in mind that they’re still a work in-progress. On the ladder side of things, we still wanted to offer a more competitive experience for the remainder of the season. We know there are a lot of players that have enjoyed the current season, and we’re glad they’ve been able to experience something different these past few weeks. We’ll speak more about our thoughts on the entire season in the coming days. While we know that some will be disappointed that we couldn’t get the new maps on ladder early, we’re hoping the steps taken here will provide a good competitive environment for the current season and offer a chance for preparation towards the next season.
Rest in peace #Dreampool
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Good solution by Blizzard, well done.
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your Country52797 Posts
I'm anxious to see these new maps. They are either Blizzard maps or Korean maps, from what I can tell.
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Doesn't bother me really, I'm too low of a level for maps to really matter that much. I guess I play a little bit more macro-y from now on though 
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i wish they would be this "consistent" with dem terran buffs lulz
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Well i guess thats cool. Seemes inconsistent with Blizzards usual "wait until the season ends" but cool nonetheless.
Too bad I cant play any Starcraft from 12/17-1/15 
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The novelty has indeed ran its course.
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On December 17 2014 05:18 rotta wrote:
The novelty has indeed ran its course.
Novelty means something new; a ladder infested with cheese is just a greater amount of the same.
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oh noes the time rift has closed. inb4 like 80% of code S disappears.
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RIP dreampool, see you again in four years :D
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This makes me afraid it's 4 new Blizzard maps
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THE MOST EPIC FAIL OF THE HISTORY.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
nice work with the #Dreampool, next time better if ask to progamers what they think about your choices.
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your Country52797 Posts
On December 17 2014 05:25 OtherWorld wrote:
This makes me afraid it's 4 new Blizzard maps
It's not anything in here... :\
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On December 17 2014 05:30 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:25 OtherWorld wrote:
This makes me afraid it's 4 new Blizzard maps It's not anything in here... :\
And looking at the quality of some of the maps here, it makes me very sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Im with you.
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The only thing I have a minor gripe with is only 4 new maps. I hope more than I can even put into words that the 3 that remain aren't King Sejong Station, Overgrowth and Merry Go Round. I'm so tired of those maps it pains me to even think about it.
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I'm glad because I came back to the game after a long time and was able to ease back in because of #dreampool, now that I've laddered for a bit though it'll be fun to play the new maps =)
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No more Dreampool
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France9034 Posts
Well, Dreampool was fun for a while. But yeah, kind of terrible for pro players so...
Good move there, looking forward for the new maps, but if they're Blizzard's, I'm a bit anxious at what we'll get....
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Mexico674 Posts
I'm dissapointed to hear this, Blizzard giving out to the pressure of a vocal minority. Oh well, to enjoy what I have left of the Dreampool.
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Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players.
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On December 17 2014 05:53 DARKING wrote:
I'm dissapointed to hear this, Blizzard giving out to the pressure of a vocal minority. Oh well, to enjoy what I have left of the Dreampool.
That vocal minority includes every single progamer.
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I'll miss the dreampool.
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Well, at my level maps don't really matter that much, so for me #Dreampool was fun. I am quite happy that Blizzard decided to include "classic" maps for the off-season.
But I can imagine it being frustrating for more skilled players
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On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players.
What % would you suggest? Mastery is difficult to come by, and you only dilute the meaning of the word and the league by essentially making it so that even worse players can achieve the same status.
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On December 17 2014 06:03 Lumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players. What % would you suggest? Mastery is difficult to come by, and you only dilute the meaning of the word and the league by essentially making it so that even worse players can achieve the same status.
I cant really comment on how big it should be and i agree on the fact that it should be kept small, but we went from 6% (or even 8%) all the way down to 1.4%. Perhaps the 2% of last season was a sweet spot.
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On December 17 2014 06:13 Heartland wrote:
noooo!
........ more torture!! yay!!
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Hallelujah! I was so excited about the old maps comming back in Season four... So many mamories. But then I found out that the memories were from watching the tournaments and the pros playing WoL... I found it so frustrating as zerg player with the amount of all-ins on every map during this season. Every stupid detail so abused... Thank you Blizzard... If they would nerve back the mines and hellbats it'll be awesome...
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I'm having fun with the current pool but I can definitely see why they're doing this. A whole season with these maps must be pretty harsh for those who care about balance and all that boring stuff
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Can we keep Daybreak please Blizzard?
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On December 17 2014 05:25 OtherWorld wrote:
This makes me afraid it's 4 new Blizzard maps
Daedalus Point here we come!!!
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On December 17 2014 06:01 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:53 DARKING wrote:
I'm dissapointed to hear this, Blizzard giving out to the pressure of a vocal minority. Oh well, to enjoy what I have left of the Dreampool. That vocal minority includes every single progamer.
Yeah, im so happy that Blizzard listened to the vocal "minority". Pro players aside, pretty much anyone who takes the ladder somewhat seriously is sick of the dreampool by now.
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what about fixing the MMR? Ladder s a huge mess right now!
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On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players.
In percentage there are way more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM. No reason to make master league the last achievement for even more players. Knowing that you'll never ever have another league promotion (unless you're in the highest already) doesn't keep you that motivated .
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On December 17 2014 06:47 KingAlphard wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players. In percentage there are way more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM. No reason to make master league the last achievement for even more players. Knowing that you'll never ever have another league promotion (unless you're in the highest already) doesn't keep you that motivated .
You don't want Masters to be the last league promotion because that's demotivating... so you want Diamond to be the last league promotion? What?
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Dreampool has gotten really old really quickly. The game is just not balanced around these kinds of maps anymore.
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Noooooooooooooooooo! I love Dreampool. Sure, almost every map is woeful, but Cloud Kingdom is my favourite map in every matchup!
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Season 3 map pool plus 4 new 1v1 maps....i think Season 3 maps are pretty good but they were still way too Terran favored. Either its a good thing to give players more time on those maps to adjust to Terrans OP shit or its going to be terrans winning at the beginning of Season 1 2015 cause Terrans can just veto non terran favored maps until they get what they like.
User was warned for this post
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Nooooo! I just got back to playing this week and am 39-3 in dreampool, I love it, it reminds me of when I was really excited about SC2.
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On December 17 2014 06:53 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:47 KingAlphard wrote:On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players. In percentage there are way more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM. No reason to make master league the last achievement for even more players. Knowing that you'll never ever have another league promotion (unless you're in the highest already) doesn't keep you that motivated . You don't want Masters to be the last league promotion because that's demotivating... so you want Diamond to be the last league promotion? What?
Read my post again.
I said , there are WAY more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM.
There's not such problem with diamond league, because most diamond league players know they can achieve masters, they just don't put in enough of an effort. It's pretty obvious that diamond-->Master is 10 times easier than Master--->GM. No point in making the gap even more extreme.
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YESSS!!
get fucked #dreampool!!
burn in hell!!!
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I wormit whenever I see Fox, Nimbus, Catallena, Deadwing or Merry Go Round.
I dont know what is worse. #Dreampool or S3 all Day every Day for so long time.
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Well happy to go in hollidays away from my PC I guess 
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why are people saying progamers influenced this decision?
Why should progamers care about ladder maps?
They probably play custom games with their teammates no?
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On December 17 2014 07:54 sharkie wrote:
why are people saying progamers influenced this decision?
Why should progamers care about ladder maps?
They probably play custom games with their teammates no?
Maybe in strong Teamhouses. But Ladder is still very important. Players who play less Ladder fail in times where you cannot analyse and prepair your enemy for a week. Watch back at the recent qualifier. You cant just practice with only 3-7 people in the house, you must also play against the unknown.
And in Europe, most pros do not live in Teamhouses and some do not do it in Korea. They will not have enough PP to train outside of the ladder.
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I hope they have something really interesting to show for the new maps, because i'm seriously disappointed about this "dreampool" thing.. didn't make any sense, maybe the should have done that as a transition between 2 seasons and that would have been enough of it.
Eager to see what's next§ .. I'll enjoy a few all in meanwhile.. :D
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your Country52797 Posts
Dreampool wasn't as bad as some people here are making it out to be, but I'm glad the normal maps are back. Can we just have new maps though?
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On December 17 2014 07:12 KingAlphard wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:53 pure.Wasted wrote:On December 17 2014 06:47 KingAlphard wrote:On December 17 2014 05:58 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Hope they will increase master league size as well. 1.4 % is just a handfull of players. In percentage there are way more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM. No reason to make master league the last achievement for even more players. Knowing that you'll never ever have another league promotion (unless you're in the highest already) doesn't keep you that motivated . You don't want Masters to be the last league promotion because that's demotivating... so you want Diamond to be the last league promotion? What? Read my post again. I said , there are WAY more diamond players who eventually achieve masters than master players who eventually achieve GM. There's not such problem with diamond league, because most diamond league players know they can achieve masters, they just don't put in enough of an effort. It's pretty obvious that diamond-->Master is 10 times easier than Master--->GM. No point in making the gap even more extreme.
I am an idiot.
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It's funny all of the people sad about the revert back to Season 3 maps are all Protoss, Terran. I wonder why.
On December 17 2014 08:51 Dvriel wrote:
So happy this shitpool is dead. Was one of the worst decisions Blizz ever made. This shouldnt happend ever.
I suppose they did this to keep people interested in SC2, because we are all soooo tired of the same game and meta for almost 4 years... Thats why they decided to change LotV do drastically.
I even do not understand why are the expansions sooo LATE.In 2011 there was some picture of the Blizz plans about their expansions in the time. They were going to reléase an expansión every 18 months. HotS was planned for suppusly March 2013. Then LotV for December 2014... Why??? What happened?
Blizzard's "Soon" Trademark move is what happened.
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So happy this shitpool is dead. Was one of the worst decisions Blizz ever made. This shouldnt happend ever.
I suppose they did this to keep people interested in SC2, because we are all soooo tired of the same game and meta for almost 4 years... Thats why they decided to change LotV do drastically.
I even do not understand why are the expansions sooo LATE.In 2011 there was some picture of the Blizz plans about their expansions in the time. They were going to reléase an expansión every 18 months. HotS was planned for suppusly March 2013. Then LotV for December 2014... Why??? What happened?
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fantastic. Great news!
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april fools is finally over
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So, with the mentions of next season maps not being done, and 0 communication with the map scene, it isnt weird to think all new maps might be blizzard ones
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Ohhh I am gonna miss dreampool for sure
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NO NO NO NO NOOOOO
I uninstalled the game shortly before I started to work on the diploma. Now 2 weeks before I hand it in the dreampool is gone?
Well no reason to install it again, as the only way I'd install SC2 again was some nostalgia.
I tried it long to go into deep understanding and playing of the race I hate the most to regain some fun playing and watching the game but it turned out: one race will stay just lame for me I reduced watching and playing... maybe this is the chance to finally quit On December 17 2014 05:53 DARKING wrote:
I'm dissapointed to hear this, Blizzard giving out to the pressure of a vocal minority. Oh well, to enjoy what I have left of the Dreampool.
Well they also design the game around 0.1% of the players (the pro gamers), so in a way I understand it.
Its just lame for the 99.9% other players (not this decision but some others)
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Canada8157 Posts
4 New maps you say? It would be cool if they were broken down for analysis...
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On December 17 2014 09:37 Jer99 wrote:
4 New maps you say? It would be cool if they were broken down for analysis...
Rumors have it the 4 new maps are going to be Lost Temple, Fighting Spirit, Neo Medusa, and Blood Bath, if you would like to start your analyzing a little early.
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R.I.H. #dreampool
Rot in Hell
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On December 17 2014 05:51 geokilla wrote:No more Dreampool
*fixed: No more Dreampool
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But I liked dreampool 
The season3 maps are so boring
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I would have preferred the dreampool stay for the rest of the season for the sole reason of keeping Deadwing off the ladder.
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Now that I have played dreampool for 300+ games I am SO ready for it to be gone. But I hadnt played sc2 for about 2 years been playing mobas and I dont think I would have gotten back into the game until LotV without dreampool making me want to play. So I guess its not all bad.
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nooooo
i was the only one who actually came back to play the game because of the old maps?
they could have left some of the old maps in the pool, maybe add one extra ban for those who didnt like em
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Why dont they just release 8 new maps with the help of map makers and Korean leagues instead of 4 blizzard developed maps?
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Glad to see dreampool goto rest, or nightmarepool as I once called it.
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When does new season start?
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I will have put in over 600 games this season before dream pool is gone, no wonder i've been losing my mind!
On December 17 2014 12:03 ThePastor wrote:
When does new season start?
It says 1/5/15 ... so soon!
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Deadwing how I missed you so much, let's never break up again.
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Thank god! The piece of shit map pool is gone. (such a relief)
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The Dreampool was great fun.. Funny to see the tryhards crying about it so much.. How dare we have some fun playing a game in which its as "off-season" as the game gets. Chill out~
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Blizzard fucked up pretty hard with this one. They shoulda prepared the new pool way way earlier so that important leagues like SSL, GSL, SPL would not be so confused in choosing between a fun but shitty dreampool and an utterly boring ss3
That results in we spectator having to watch the likes of Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena for another freakin quarter. (This experimental pool wont even start until Jan 5 while Code begins in Jan 7). What are you even thinking Blizzard?
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Well, there goes my reason to play SC2 again It was nice to have small action-packed maps again, now we'll be back to nr15 3-base yawn fests.
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. I'll be looking forward to economy changes in LotV, hopefully it'll improve the pacing of the game.
I was so excited to get my paws on this game again after finals week, too.
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Hell,it's about time! Fucking shity maps,cheesefest all day long :/
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On December 17 2014 12:59 Arceus wrote:
Blizzard fucked up pretty hard with this one. They shoulda prepared the new pool way way earlier so that important leagues like SSL, GSL, SPL would not be so confused in choosing between a fun but shitty dreampool and an utterly boring ss3
That results in we spectator having to watch the likes of Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena for another freakin quarter. (This experimental pool wont even start until Jan 5 while Code begins in Jan 7). What are you even thinking Blizzard?
You better learn to read properly, before trying to while like a kiddo
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They should have different map pools for different leagues... just saying
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Dreampool has been great in that sense we saw players actually think about what they were doing. We had those classic copy-paste build guys that will go reaper expand everytime because they know only one macro build. We had the cheeser that know how to abuse every map with very efficient cheese. And we had people thinking out of the box trying to adapt from old map with interesting openers more defensive or aggressive than usual.
I enjoyed a lot that diversity, good scouting and good adaptation to what your opponent was doing was heavily required. Re-learning to defend old cheese was fun, adapting to weird build was ton of fun as well. Now we go back to the good old "every map is standard and look the same." I'm kind of sad but hope that for the next round they will show some innovative maps.
Opening reaper expand for dummies
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So they wanted to fix TvZ with the new mappool but they keep 3 maps of the last mappool anyway?
Thanks for nothing
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On December 17 2014 19:39 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
So they wanted to fix TvZ with the new mappool but they keep 3 maps of the last mappool anyway?
Thanks for nothing
King Sejong, Overgrowth and Deadwing are perfectly fine (though King and overgrowth have been around for while now, so I don't mind seeing them go), Merry Go Round is actually Zerg favoured according to the winrate statistics and having 1 Terran-friendly map left on a pool of 7 is perfectly acceptable if they decide to leave one of those in, depending on how the others are balanced. Perfect balance on every individual map is boring. Depending on how the new maps are swapping out 4/7 is perfectly fine.
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The ideas of different mappool for pros and non-pro and the idea of having a large mappool of like 12 maps with 6-7 bans with the mappool of the pros + fun old/new maps is an idea that will probably never see the light because of the policy of blizzard that want their game to be not overwhelming for newbies. Those are great ideas imo and I would really enjoy to see this.
If we follow the 9 deck slot polemic in hearthstone we can understand clearly that Blizzard don't want to have complicated stuff going on. The 7 mappool will stay unfortunately.
We should be glad they are letting us having the Archon mode :D.
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RIP dream pool I loved you so
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Well, the basic idea behind the dreampool wasn't that bad for the "offseason" we are having. Nevertheless it's good to see it replaced. Maybe it would be fun to have something like a casual ladder, running parallel to the regular one with some fan favored maps?
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It was fun as long as it lasted. Time to move on.. or back.. or both.
The few matches i played had a good nostalgia feeling, but i can understand that people who play more than 5 games a day got really sick of 'em.
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No more Xelnaga
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Hoping for some new 2v2/3v3 maps too! :D
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According to the mighty destiny we will get:
maps bad for blink, with ez 4th for zerg and protoss friendly natural, in 4 Variations !
Thanks Blizzard
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It's about damn time that ladder becomes enjoyable again ...
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I don't know if we have to be happy or scared.
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And then my mmr will suddenly get back to normal and I won't lose to noobs anymore. Thanks Blizzard.
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your Country52797 Posts
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Well now that they released their delevopment update that means we'll get the maps this week, which is kinda cool
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On December 17 2014 15:15 CakeSauc3 wrote:Well, there goes my reason to play SC2 again It was nice to have small action-packed maps again, now we'll be back to nr15 3-base yawn fests. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. I'll be looking forward to economy changes in LotV, hopefully it'll improve the pacing of the game. I was so excited to get my paws on this game again after finals week, too.
I too think it's more fun on smaller maps. I'm a diamond Zerg in EU. I think I loose more to Protoss and Terran on the smaller maps, but I don't mind, since it's more fun with the action. I vetoed out the bigger maps in the map pool.
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I'm kinda just rolling my eyes at all the drama queens rejoicing that Dreampool's going out. To be honest, my laddering experience honestly hasn't changed that much, though I think this will be the first ladder season ever that I won't hit master league because the ladder is just too wonky and all the other diamond-leaguers I run into are all multiple-time masters as well. I do play random race, so expecting the unexpected and playing for fun are no strangers to me.
All in all, this is only a game to us common folk. The ladder offseason is meant to throw an interesting wrench into what we already know, and it's really silly to get mad and complain about it.
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On December 18 2014 09:45 Lunchador wrote:
I'm kinda just rolling my eyes at all the drama queens rejoicing that Dreampool's going out. To be honest, my laddering experience honestly hasn't changed that much, though I think this will be the first ladder season ever that I won't hit master league because the ladder is just too wonky and all the other diamond-leaguers I run into are all multiple-time masters as well. I do play random race, so expecting the unexpected and playing for fun are no strangers to me.
All in all, this is only a game to us common folk. The ladder offseason is meant to throw an interesting wrench into what we already know, and it's really silly to get mad and complain about it.
So because you are okay with Dreampool it is silly for other people to not like it? Opinions of maps aren't just for the most top tier players, even a Bronze league player can legitimately not like maps. I haven't been able to play Starcraft II for almost a year now due to injury, but I have really wanted to come back and see if I can play again but I have been waiting for this ladder season to end because I just don't care for the maps in Dreampool, is that silly too?
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I enjoyed a few of the maps again, but I can't say I did much other than cheesing this season. Lots of spine crawler rushes, 10-pools, 15 hatch 14 pool into speedling all ins, and roach rushes with burrow. I'm trying to create a custom map that's a copy of Xelnaga Caverns in the middle, but with a backdoor natural and additional bases outside of the former boundaries of the map. I haven't had a whole lot of luck getting it to feel right so far.
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The fact that the novelty wore off doesn't mean it wasn't a good thing while it lasted.
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On December 18 2014 11:36 yokohama wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 09:45 Lunchador wrote:
I'm kinda just rolling my eyes at all the drama queens rejoicing that Dreampool's going out. To be honest, my laddering experience honestly hasn't changed that much, though I think this will be the first ladder season ever that I won't hit master league because the ladder is just too wonky and all the other diamond-leaguers I run into are all multiple-time masters as well. I do play random race, so expecting the unexpected and playing for fun are no strangers to me.
All in all, this is only a game to us common folk. The ladder offseason is meant to throw an interesting wrench into what we already know, and it's really silly to get mad and complain about it. So because you are okay with Dreampool it is silly for other people to not like it? Opinions of maps aren't just for the most top tier players, even a Bronze league player can legitimately not like maps. I haven't been able to play Starcraft II for almost a year now due to injury, but I have really wanted to come back and see if I can play again but I have been waiting for this ladder season to end because I just don't care for the maps in Dreampool, is that silly too?
Doesn't seem to me like the dreampool is reason enough to not play starcraft at all. It would be an exaggeration to say that nothing productive or fun can come of it.
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On December 18 2014 12:14 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 11:36 yokohama wrote:On December 18 2014 09:45 Lunchador wrote:
I'm kinda just rolling my eyes at all the drama queens rejoicing that Dreampool's going out. To be honest, my laddering experience honestly hasn't changed that much, though I think this will be the first ladder season ever that I won't hit master league because the ladder is just too wonky and all the other diamond-leaguers I run into are all multiple-time masters as well. I do play random race, so expecting the unexpected and playing for fun are no strangers to me.
All in all, this is only a game to us common folk. The ladder offseason is meant to throw an interesting wrench into what we already know, and it's really silly to get mad and complain about it. So because you are okay with Dreampool it is silly for other people to not like it? Opinions of maps aren't just for the most top tier players, even a Bronze league player can legitimately not like maps. I haven't been able to play Starcraft II for almost a year now due to injury, but I have really wanted to come back and see if I can play again but I have been waiting for this ladder season to end because I just don't care for the maps in Dreampool, is that silly too? Doesn't seem to me like the dreampool is reason enough to not play starcraft at all. It would be an exaggeration to say that nothing productive or fun can come of it.
tbh i personally have played less than 10 games this season precisely because of how bad the dreampool is, i only started playing late 2012 so i never even got the nostalgia from terrible maps like Xnc etc and the maps i do recognise were just flat out boring because iv played them so much before (ie daybreak)
honestly if wed had early hots maps ida been happier, ww was awesome and i even liked belshire
heck in my clan literally 3 people out of 10 have played more than 20 games this season XD
so there are definatley people that thing its a reason not to play
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NA is down, but for Hearthstone and other games too i presume, maybe the map change is that serious.
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I really don't get the hoopla over the map pool. I'm playing a hacker every other game, that a blind person could know is hacking, yet they will be playing for life. How is someone supposed to care about having to play on maps that aren't even bad? I'm so confused.
This map pool is better than the previous season, even if old. Foxtrot sucks, Nimbus sucks, Catallena sucks, Merry go round sucks, and a Bronze league player could beat a GM on Overgrowth if they accidentally made some swarm hosts.
The dreampool has turned into a scape goat, when I'm not even sure it's a problem to begin with. You want problems, how about planning to spend 1.6 million on WCS and not even being able to excite anyone outside of a handful of Koreans allowed to take NA spots. That's an incredibly hard feat to pull off, but they managed it. Or the fact that players can stream themselves cheating, yet you would get banned on a Blizz forum if you were to "call them out." And, they will continue laddering. Until they introduce a map without the opponent being a maphacker, I'll be waiting for why I should care.
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