• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:38
CEST 21:38
KST 04:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris34Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
BoxeR's Wings Episode 2 - Fan Translation Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. No Rain in ASL20? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How do I speak directly to Coinbase?1-(888)-419-97 Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group E Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 998 users

HOT6 CUP 2014: Quarter Finals Day 2 Preview

Forum Index > SC2 General
13 CommentsPost a Reply

HOT6 CUP 2014: Quarter Finals Day 2 Preview

Text bylichter
Graphics byshiroiusagi
December 3rd, 2014 01:40 GMT
Photos: GomTV and ThisIsGame
Hot6ix Cup

GOMTV Hot6ix Cup



Hot6ix Cup Ro8 Day 1
sKyHigh vs Bbyong
sOs vs INnoVation

Brackets and standings on
Liquipedia

sKyHigh vs Bbyong:
An Unlikely Teamkill

by CosmicSpiral

Don't Look at Me, I'm the Janitor

CJ.(T)Bbyong’s oeuvre is not impressive. For a player described as exciting, innovative, and a model of smart gameplay, he has never generated much success out of those qualities: by success I mean the great dichotomy reserved for Korean players, win it all or go home. He is a perpetual Ro16 menace, certain to advance out of the first group stage only to flop in the next one. He’s a decent menace in online tournaments but never wins any of them. His career is one long record of mediocrity, from his all-time best showing (finishing third place in his Ro16 group back in GSL Season 1) to his meltdown at IEM Sao Paulo. Within the grand pantheon of Korean Terrans, Bbyong rightfully receives more comparisons to Ensnare and Clide than (T)Mvp.

The main difference between Bbyong and older gatekeepers is his propensity to pull out strange, wild strategies for the hell of it. The CJ Terran is best known for exploiting the Gangnam Terran ruse on Habitation Station, but his assortment of builds range from grimy timing attacks to impenetrable armies in lategame TvZ. His main claim to fame is utilizing mech builds regardless of the opponent’s race. He dares to try mech against unsuspecting Protosses (and gets away with it!), battle-tested terrans, and zergs more preoccupied with fears of MMM. Even his losses have that special roguish charm to them. Unfortunately, his style has not paid off in terms of praiseworthy finishes.

That could all change soon. The quarterfinals of Hot6ix Cup represent the best placement in Bbyong’s SC2 career as well as his strongest run. In total he’s 6-0 in series with a 12-1 record, only dropping 1 game to Creator in the qualifier. What’s more impressive are his successive 2-0 victories against Soulkey, PartinG, and Zest. Bbyong has beaten top players before, but his overall success against them is more like a staccato rhythm than a consistent beat. After alternating between wins and losses so often, it’s an encouraging sign that Bbyong defeated them one after the other. After nuking Zest and PartinG to get out in first place, the sky is the limit.

Or the End of the Road

When did CJ.(T)sKyHigh get good?

That was the question yelled at many screens last week when the CJ Terran upset (P)Classic and (T)Flash to advance into the Round of 8. To say it came out of left field would be an insult to baseball stadiums; sKyHigh’s advancement was more like a ramshackle satellite crashing into the mound. In a group with perennial fan favorite Flash, a resurgent (Z)Soulkey, and the ever dangerous Classic, sKyHigh’s chances should have been a smidge above 0%. At that point he had no accomplishments and the barest minimum of hype behind him. His greatest boast he could muster was going through the qualifiers undefeated. If he could finish the group without getting embarrassed, it would be the highlight of his SC2 career.

Instead, he turned it into a highlight reel. After losing to Soulkey in some lackluster games, sKyHigh finally demonstrated how he beat (T)Maru and (Z)ByuL to reach the group stage. His tactical approach was reminiscent of his old mentor (T)Iris, a comparison that formerly earned sKyHigh the affectionate moniker “Neo-Berserker”. Like Iris at his best, sKyHigh grinded out wins with suffocating multitasking and positioning. His victory over Classic on King Sejong Station was a motley assortment of drops, bad and good and everything in-between. Whether they were wise or foolish choices, he irritated his opponent to the point of exhaustion and blunder. sKyHigh’s series against Flash was even more nostalgic. The way he outmaneuvered Flash brought back comparisons to his legendary BW TvT, a matchup that was also Flash’s bane back in the day.

Fortune is still fickle, and sKyHigh must translate this initial success into something more lasting. StarCraft II has a long history of players with brief moments of fame, and many of those greenhorns immediately lapsed back into obscurity. We’ve known too many (P)InCas and (P)Seeds to give sKyHigh the benefit of the doubt. Being a teammate and practice partner, Bbyong will be well-acquainted with any potential mindgames. Unlike his scattered encounters with Flash on ladder, sKyHigh won’t have the luxury of unfamiliarity. He’ll have to be even more devious and aware of his opponent’s line of thinking. Luckily for sKyHigh, his recent success doesn’t seem to be a complete fluke. If you’re nominated as the strongest player on your team by your team, that has to count for something.

Predictions

For all the brouhaha raised over sKyHigh’s TvT, his SC2 record has been forgettable. Only 40-39 (50.63%) since his introduction, sKyHigh’s experience and reliability is questionable when compared to Bbyong’s 58-48 (54.72%) performance. Furthermore, Bbyong’s win distribution has been fairly stable after October 2013. Most of sKyHigh’s wins came during 2 huge spurts, once in the MvP Invitational and the other extending into this match. In fact, his recent TvT run didn't start until he start playing in the Hot6ix qualifiers. While his unremitting confidence in the mirror matchup will be a great help, one wonders whether it exist to shroud his doubts.

As we’ve seen multiple times in the past, surviving the first 10 minutes is a prerequisite skill in TvT. This series could easily devolve into a game of Russian roulette, where victory is rewarded via proper build order and trigger finger. Both players are confident in their lategame skills, and will likely intersperse long macro games between marine/hellion elevators and 1/1/1 timing attacks. However, it’s sKyHigh that stands to benefit the most from such an approach. Many of Bbyong’s TvT losses come against players who rely on highly aggressive styles defined by multitasking, which sKyHigh seems to relish. Bbyong himself can excel in crazy situations, but his teammate will be constantly looking to force them. In the end sKyHigh's swell of confidence should let him barely overcome Bbyong.

sKyHigh 3 - 2 Bbyong


sOs vs INnoVation:
The Ground that Shakes

by TameNaken

At every moment of every day, in a way that can’t be seen, tectonic plates are slowly moving and building up pressure below the surface. Ideally there would be a continuous tremor so that the pressure never builds up. But in reality the longer between quakes the greater the eventual damage.

(P)sOs is like an earthquake. At every free moment sOs is finding and refining unpredictable strategies to catch his opponents off guard. Ideally for (T)INnoVation, sOs would have a long list of recent games to study so that sOs’s pocket strategies wouldn’t build up to a critical, overwhelming force. The problem for INnoVation is that sOs has been relatively dormant for the last 6 months.

In fact despite winning a $100,000 tournament, 2014 has been a quiet affair for sOs. Lackluster performances combined with the terran drought earlier this year has meant that sOs has not played a single PvT in Code S this year. But it’s unlikely that this is due to a major lapse in form. sOs still managed to tie for the most wins in the Proleague regular season with a 20-9 record. The most likely scenario is that sOs is playing at the same pace he’s always been playing at, simply waiting for the perfect opportunity to once again shake the ground we stand on and change our understanding of the game.

After a silent first half of the year INnoVation returned to finally fulfill his destiny. The foreign venture on team Acer was only a detour for the player many thought would dominate the GSL. Ever since Seed’s fall from the heavens every new GSL winner has had their ability questioned. But after INnoVation lifted his GSL trophy the same question wasn't asked. INnoVation had already won a title in 2013—WCS Season 1 Finals— to confirm his potential, and this championship was just confirmation of what we already knew.The only question was who would meet INnoVation in the grand finals of Blizzcon.

With hindsight and the help of Taeja we were reminded that INnoVation does lose... occasionally. In the last Code S season INnoVation played 5 TvP series which most of the time ended as a 2-1 score. One of those 2-1 series was a loss to MyuNgSiK who exclusively used a phoenix-colossi strategy, which is a strategy sOs showed successfully against TY.

Whether PvT is still sOs’s worst matchup is impossible to know; his 2-1 win against TY earlier in the tournament wasn't very enlightening. In all 3 games sOs opened up with early oracles and one of those games was a simple build order win for sOs. A reliance on oracles is typically a sign of lacking confidence in the matchup. The other possibility is that sOs is hiding strategies for the latter stages in the tournament. sOs is the type of player to hide strategies until the very end; it was against INnoVation in the very first WCS season finals that sOs showed us a tempest PvT build after falling behind 0-3.

Even against oddball strategies, INnoVation was able to win his first championship with a 4-0 against sOs . Additionally it was against INnoVation that sOs won his first broadcasted SC2 game. Despite this storied past they haven't played each other even once in 2014 and yet there is just as much on the line as ever before. sOs wants to prove that he can still unleash his inner $O$ from the shadow realm and INnoVation wants to prove that he can stay at the top after a GSL championship.

sOs is in the same place that INnoVation was in 3 months ago: a drought of individual results, a monster teamleague performance and now a chance to return to the top. A win for INnoVation is just a drop in the sea but a win for sOs could be the initial tremors of another wave of success.

Prediction:

Innovation’s TvP varies between best in the world and world class and he can be expected to bring his A game whether that be SCV pulls or otherwise. sOs is the only variable in this match; if he truly wants to catch INnoVation off guard he’ll have to bring more than just an array of proxy oracle openers. Even if sOs reveals all his tricks it will still be an uphill fight for the Jin Air protoss.

sOs 1 - 3 INnoVation
Writers: CosmicSpiral and TameNaken.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photos: GomTV, google and ThisIsGame.
Editor: lichter.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 02:01:43
December 03 2014 01:42 GMT
#2
First!!!!!!

Gogogo Innooooo!!!!


User was temp banned for this post.
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
December 03 2014 02:15 GMT
#3
sOs will destroy the world
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 03 2014 03:01 GMT
#4
Man I am rooting for all these players, wouldn't mind any of them advancing! Just hoping for good games (which I might stay up for this time).
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
December 03 2014 03:59 GMT
#5
Bbyong and sOs advance...

Innovation is great at TvP but sOs will bring one macro game, one cheese and one timing to win 3-2.
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
December 03 2014 04:43 GMT
#6
Going to have to watch the VoDs again, but should be some pretty entertaining games no matter what from these series!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 03 2014 04:54 GMT
#7
agree on both of these
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 03 2014 05:32 GMT
#8
Gogo Bbyongovation!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
December 03 2014 05:43 GMT
#9
Looking forward to the games
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
December 03 2014 06:20 GMT
#10
$O$ will dominate please??
$O$ | soO
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
December 03 2014 06:26 GMT
#11
skyhigh beating bbyong? ballsy predictions tl.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2014 07:08 GMT
#12
On December 03 2014 15:26 Redrot wrote:
skyhigh beating bbyong? ballsy predictions tl.


MarineKingChoya took a dump on PartinG so anything can happen
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
December 03 2014 07:16 GMT
#13
Since when was Curious considered a korean terran? :D
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2014 07:22 GMT
#14
I think that was supposed to be Clide
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 345
UpATreeSC 187
IndyStarCraft 178
ProTech103
JuggernautJason61
BRAT_OK 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3363
ggaemo 265
firebathero 179
BeSt 145
Bonyth 124
EffOrt 102
Dewaltoss 67
Mind 45
yabsab 29
Aegong 25
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 23
Sacsri 12
Bale 9
HiyA 9
Dota 2
capcasts157
Counter-Strike
Foxcn443
Stewie2K349
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu418
Other Games
Grubby1437
FrodaN819
C9.Mang0161
Mew2King57
Trikslyr53
MindelVK10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 21
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 15
• davetesta11
• LUISG 9
• Reevou 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 20
• 80smullet 14
• FirePhoenix2
• iopq 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1110
League of Legends
• TFBlade997
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie857
Other Games
• WagamamaTV442
• Shiphtur169
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 22m
LiuLi Cup
15h 22m
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
20h 22m
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
Big Brain Bouts
20h 22m
Iba vs GgMaChine
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Reynor vs Classic
Serral vs Clem
BSL Team Wars
23h 22m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
23h 22m
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
1d 16h
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
1d 20h
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 22h
SC Evo League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
2 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.