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XMG.SC2 2015 - plans and current status - Page 2

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bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
November 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#21
lilbow has a very bright future in esports
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 30 2014 22:00 GMT
#22
So XMG is going the CM Storm route - not a team, but a series of individual sponsorships. I can respect that, particularly since you're being direct about it. Hopefully Socke decides there's still a future for him with the organization as well.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 30 2014 22:07 GMT
#23
Too cool
Administrator
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 30 2014 22:15 GMT
#24
yay its ToDs fault I got an XMG, that thing is awesome though !
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 22:31:47
November 30 2014 22:31 GMT
#25
On December 01 2014 06:43 AzBozz wrote:
xmg stop supporting hsc would be the most disappointing thing ever


I wouldn't really call it disappointment, but I'd be sad for sure.
Whenever i think of homestory cup the first thing that comes to my mind is XMG and Take's interview/conversation with them :D

Really cool transparency from you guys, good job
Lets hope with the release and Hype of LOTV there will be more opportunities for you guys to work profitably with our scene.
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
November 30 2014 22:37 GMT
#26
This, this article I like, explaining why you are doing stuff, what's planned and so on. I am so down with that attitude. Really, 10/10 to you. I really hope that 2015 turns into a bumper, good luck to all involved.7

...fans of TeamLiquid and the unique atmosphere this community provides makes it a very special place, as certain aspects that are quite "annoying" in the industry...

Nod.

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
November 30 2014 22:37 GMT
#27
Is this the firt we hear on Apollo being XMG? From what I know he hasn't been on a team before, he is definitely my favorite SC2 personality and caster. Apollo is awesome, can't believe you managed to get him on your team =D congrats
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
November 30 2014 22:38 GMT
#28
On December 01 2014 07:37 Shuffleblade wrote:
Is this the firt we hear on Apollo being XMG? From what I know he hasn't been on a team before, he is definitely my favorite SC2 personality and caster. Apollo is awesome, can't believe you managed to get him on your team =D congrats

He has a personal sponsorship, he isn't in the team.
Vasacast always in my <3
wmb
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden282 Posts
November 30 2014 22:50 GMT
#29
I like socke's glasses on that pic :-d
Hi I'm the infamous wmb, Diamond 1 / Challenger Player.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
November 30 2014 22:52 GMT
#30
Thanks for the post.
XMG really feels like a vital addition to HSC though, I cannot imagine HSC without XMG.
England will fight to the last American
stefan16
Profile Joined June 2014
103 Posts
November 30 2014 22:57 GMT
#31
interesting choice of personal sponsorship, but I guess every sponsor has its own policy (Nate should get sponsored as well ). HSC sponsorship is the best decision IMO
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
November 30 2014 23:04 GMT
#32
On December 01 2014 05:11 Sisaan wrote:
SC2 has got harder to justify within the company (for understandable reasons)


Why not openly name these reasons if you are trying to be transparent here? The style of this short part seems a bit in contrast to the rest of the article, which makes it weird.

Why has SC2 got harder to justify for you? I don't think everyone "understands" if you don't at all explain it.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 23:54:03
November 30 2014 23:24 GMT
#33
On December 01 2014 06:34 AblazeUA wrote:
MaddeLisK?! Like really!??
After all these tantrums and inadequacy from her side?
Ok, XMG i'm so disappointed of you.
Taking trash players just because some of them got vagina is not the way you make your team successful

User was warned for this post

While you seem to be an angry person, Maddelisk has a positive attitude, more SC2 skills than you, and good looks.

She got hired maybe also because of her looks? Why don't you sue XMG?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Sisaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany76 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 23:50:40
November 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#34
On December 01 2014 08:04 Paragleiber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 05:11 Sisaan wrote:
SC2 has got harder to justify within the company (for understandable reasons)


Why not openly name these reasons if you are trying to be transparent here? The style of this short part seems a bit in contrast to the rest of the article, which makes it weird.

Why has SC2 got harder to justify for you? I don't think everyone "understands" if you don't at all explain it.


Hey,

The reasons are that the viewership is dropping massively compared to other eSport titles, which makes it hard for me to cross finance our projects external and internally. Also SC2 seems to be a harsher in terms of ROI for us, after all we need to sell 1-2 things in order to maintain our standards in eSport and justify our expenses. Mostly the whole and fall off in terms of social media range and overall CTR is a bit problematic. Call to action does not really work as well as in other titles and the overall interest decreased, yet to get involved into the scene is not that much cheaper.

Yet I am confident that if we do it right, it can still be a lot of fun and helpful to the company in the same time
The guy that can make DHDE go horribly wrong *uargs*
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 18:02:52
November 30 2014 23:57 GMT
#35
On December 01 2014 08:36 Sisaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 08:04 Paragleiber wrote:
On December 01 2014 05:11 Sisaan wrote:
SC2 has got harder to justify within the company (for understandable reasons)


Why not openly name these reasons if you are trying to be transparent here? The style of this short part seems a bit in contrast to the rest of the article, which makes it weird.

Why has SC2 got harder to justify for you? I don't think everyone "understands" if you don't at all explain it.


Hey,

The reasons are that the viewership is dropping massively compared to other eSport titles, which makes it hard for me to cross finance our projects external and internally. Also SC2 seems to be a harsher in terms of ROI for us, after all we need to sell 1-2 things in order to maintain our standards in eSport and justify our expenses. Mostly the whole and fall off in terms of social media range and overall CTR is a bit problematic. Call to action does not really work as well as in other titles and the overall interest decreased, yet to get involved into the scene is not that much cheaper.

Yet I am confident that if we do it right, it can still be a lot of fun and helpful to the company in the same time

If anyone only gets on the train which is already moving, one can only be one of many others.

The final expansion of SC2 is not even in beta now. The best days are yet to come. If someone supports the game early, he is not just one of many later.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
December 01 2014 00:15 GMT
#36
On December 01 2014 08:57 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 08:36 Sisaan wrote:
On December 01 2014 08:04 Paragleiber wrote:
On December 01 2014 05:11 Sisaan wrote:
SC2 has got harder to justify within the company (for understandable reasons)


Why not openly name these reasons if you are trying to be transparent here? The style of this short part seems a bit in contrast to the rest of the article, which makes it weird.

Why has SC2 got harder to justify for you? I don't think everyone "understands" if you don't at all explain it.


Hey,

The reasons are that the viewership is dropping massively compared to other eSport titles, which makes it hard for me to cross finance our projects external and internally. Also SC2 seems to be a harsher in terms of ROI for us, after all we need to sell 1-2 things in order to maintain our standards in eSport and justify our expenses. Mostly the whole and fall off in terms of social media range and overall CTR is a bit problematic. Call to action does not really work as well as in other titles and the overall interest decreased, yet to get involved into the scene is not that much cheaper.

Yet I am confident that if we do it right, it can still be a lot of fun and helpful to the company in the same time

If anyone only gets on the train which is already moving, one can only be one of many others.

The finals expansion of SC2 is not even in beta now. The best days are yet to come. If someone supports the game early, he is not just one of many later.


That's a fair point, but they have not dropped SC2 entirely. They have moved away from players so that they can continue to support their community figures and events (like homestory cup). That's still a large investment from my point of view.

Wow those Madelisk workout videos. She is RIPPED.
Push 2 Harder
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 01 2014 00:24 GMT
#37
Monchi
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
December 01 2014 00:25 GMT
#38
hr tags pls
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
December 01 2014 00:57 GMT
#39
On December 01 2014 08:57 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 08:36 Sisaan wrote:
On December 01 2014 08:04 Paragleiber wrote:
On December 01 2014 05:11 Sisaan wrote:
SC2 has got harder to justify within the company (for understandable reasons)


Why not openly name these reasons if you are trying to be transparent here? The style of this short part seems a bit in contrast to the rest of the article, which makes it weird.

Why has SC2 got harder to justify for you? I don't think everyone "understands" if you don't at all explain it.


Hey,

The reasons are that the viewership is dropping massively compared to other eSport titles, which makes it hard for me to cross finance our projects external and internally. Also SC2 seems to be a harsher in terms of ROI for us, after all we need to sell 1-2 things in order to maintain our standards in eSport and justify our expenses. Mostly the whole and fall off in terms of social media range and overall CTR is a bit problematic. Call to action does not really work as well as in other titles and the overall interest decreased, yet to get involved into the scene is not that much cheaper.

Yet I am confident that if we do it right, it can still be a lot of fun and helpful to the company in the same time

If anyone only gets on the train which is already moving, one can only be one of many others.

The finals expansion of SC2 is not even in beta now. The best days are yet to come. If someone supports the game early, he is not just one of many later.

XMG probably can't afford to take that chance. Big businesses may sometimes be born the way you describe but so many more fail because they took too many risks that didn't pay off.
Remember how NASL was millions in debt?
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
December 01 2014 01:16 GMT
#40
Nice to see a honest straightforward statement for once. It's really refreshing ( even in a Monday morning ^^ )
Good luck to XMG in 2015

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