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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
November 21 2014 21:58 GMT
#21
It's depressing SC2 pros still do this kind of shit. The community has always been one of the most progressive in being conscientous and open by and large, that this kind of behavior still turns up from time to time is frustrating.

The first comment was thoughtless, the one by nightend probably emotionally driven rather than malicious, but it's no fucking excuse.

C'mon guys, you're better than this.
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 21 2014 21:59 GMT
#22
Really hope cascade drop him for this. Absolutely disgusting thing to say, especially over twitter.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 22:01:16
November 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#23
On November 22 2014 06:58 duckk wrote:
I have practiced with kas since wc3 2008, and he is without a doubt one of the most mannered and respectful players I know. Most likely came off differently than how he intended :/

yeah kas is known for being really cool. I hope it was a case of misunderstanding the language and he clears it up and apologizes
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
November 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#24
I wonder if Maddelisk would write that sort of tweet refering to a male gamer if she would get disqualified...
Not saying its wrong or right to write something like that, but there is a double standart in male-female interactions that sometimes becomes very unsetteling.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
November 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#25
why wasn't MC DQ'd for saying the same thing about people during WCS?
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
November 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#26
Well then. Kas definitely messed up, and as egregious of an error as it was it seems like he realized it pretty quickly and owned up to it. What he said was pretty awful in any context and he got what he deserved, but at least he tried to make it better. Nightend on the other hand has just lost all my respect.
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UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
November 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#27
I find it comical that he almost certainly would have had nothing done to him had he posted this exact tweet, but was going to play a guy. #equality #itisnotactuallyaboutequality
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
November 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#28
wtf kas
Zanzabarr
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada217 Posts
November 21 2014 22:02 GMT
#29
Well, Maddelisk has to get wins somehow. In all seriousness though, she would have been "raped" in the series. Men can rape other men. If kas said this about a male opponent, nothing would have come of it.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
November 21 2014 22:02 GMT
#30
On November 22 2014 06:54 ptbl wrote:
Nightend made the situation worse by blaming maddelisk for what Kas said



Yes, I think that was far more stupid than what Kas said... no need to add fuel to a fire, regardless of how small it is.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 22:03:50
November 21 2014 22:02 GMT
#31
LOL that's pretty funny xD

welcome to EU
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
November 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#32
On November 22 2014 06:59 Yonnua wrote:
Really hope cascade drop him for this. Absolutely disgusting thing to say, especially over twitter.


Yes, there is no context at all. Kas wanted to express to literally rape her. Not as in "rape" how it has (harshly ofc) been forever used in (e-)sports to win vs. someone. Disgusting. I'm sure you have never said something that could have been interpreted in a very bad way even though you wanted to say sth else.
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
November 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#33
I want to point out that Kas doesn't speak english very well. I'm not saying that he doesn't know what the verb 'rape' really means, but he probably forgot about it in the very moment that he wrote the tweet.
Sad for him but I guess the disqualification is still appropriate.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#34
Kas has apologized



Seems like the incident can be taken as a learning experience for everyone involved.
Don't mind me
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#35
On November 22 2014 06:51 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 06:47 DinoMight wrote:
Can a tournament DQ someone for what they say in their personal time though?

If he hashtags the tournament, I don't see why not...

Nothing should ever depend on whether something gets hashtaged or not. But seriously though, FBM is a private organisation, they can disqualify him for owning a bicycle, if they want to do that. The question is not, whether they can disqualify him, but whether they should. I personally don't think, that it is reasonable, since it was clear, that his choice of words was infuenced by not speaking english as his first language and thus heavily underestimating the impact of his words. I mean, everyone here should agree, that he did only try to trashtalk (and failed at that the worst way possible) without malicious intent here and did not actually threaten to do anything to Maddelisk. As I already did in the LR thread, I beg everyone to stay calm for a while and hope, that Kas apologizes to Maddelisk on a personal level and stuff gets sorted out without further drama, that is bad for everyone involved.
Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
November 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#36
On November 22 2014 06:59 Yonnua wrote:
Really hope cascade drop him for this. Absolutely disgusting thing to say, especially over twitter.


Dropping an excellent and still mannered player for making a bad move and saying something that he apologized for is clearly abusive and exagerated. Stop being emotional and think with reason.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 21 2014 22:04 GMT
#37
Its kinda a shame that an intended joke gets you banned from a tournament but kas really has to know better. Cant just go throwing around that kind of language on social media

also nightend is a goddamn idiot
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 21 2014 22:04 GMT
#38
The tweet was a disgrace, punishment was appropriate.
Kas apparently apologized and Maddelisk seemed to be fine with the apology, so we should not start a witchhunt against either side.


And NightEnd is a fucking idiot
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
November 21 2014 22:04 GMT
#39
On November 22 2014 07:00 Alchemik wrote:
why wasn't MC DQ'd for saying the same thing about people during WCS?


Did he? I don't follow twitter.

But that was my thought, what if he made that statement about a male player? He probably wouldn't, because his statement plays on the gender of said player and if he were to make a gender play with the word rape on a male player that would be homophobic. It is a fine line he crossed, nice that he tries to communicate in english with his fans.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
November 21 2014 22:05 GMT
#40
On November 22 2014 07:00 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 06:58 duckk wrote:
I have practiced with kas since wc3 2008, and he is without a doubt one of the most mannered and respectful players I know. Most likely came off differently than how he intended :/

yeah kas is known for being really cool. I hope it was a case of misunderstanding the language and he clears it up and apologizes


This. I imagine it can be pretty scary being a non-English speaker in a predominately English competitive scene. Considering the fact that English is a second language to Kas and the historical usage of the word rape in the context of gaming, I think it's a reasonable possibility that Kas didn't quite know what he was saying.
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