The first comment was thoughtless, the one by nightend probably emotionally driven rather than malicious, but it's no fucking excuse.
C'mon guys, you're better than this.
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
The first comment was thoughtless, the one by nightend probably emotionally driven rather than malicious, but it's no fucking excuse. C'mon guys, you're better than this. | ||
Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18069 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:58 duckk wrote: I have practiced with kas since wc3 2008, and he is without a doubt one of the most mannered and respectful players I know. Most likely came off differently than how he intended :/ yeah kas is known for being really cool. I hope it was a case of misunderstanding the language and he clears it up and apologizes | ||
iloveav
Poland1463 Posts
Not saying its wrong or right to write something like that, but there is a double standart in male-female interactions that sometimes becomes very unsetteling. | ||
Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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Arghmyliver
United States1076 Posts
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UberNuB
United States365 Posts
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
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Zanzabarr
Canada217 Posts
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iloveav
Poland1463 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:54 ptbl wrote: Nightend made the situation worse by blaming maddelisk for what Kas said Yes, I think that was far more stupid than what Kas said... no need to add fuel to a fire, regardless of how small it is. | ||
Psychobabas
2531 Posts
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:59 Yonnua wrote: Really hope cascade drop him for this. Absolutely disgusting thing to say, especially over twitter. Yes, there is no context at all. Kas wanted to express to literally rape her. Not as in "rape" how it has (harshly ofc) been forever used in (e-)sports to win vs. someone. Disgusting. I'm sure you have never said something that could have been interpreted in a very bad way even though you wanted to say sth else. | ||
KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
Sad for him but I guess the disqualification is still appropriate. | ||
ptbl
United States6074 Posts
Seems like the incident can be taken as a learning experience for everyone involved. | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:51 rotta wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2014 06:47 DinoMight wrote: Can a tournament DQ someone for what they say in their personal time though? If he hashtags the tournament, I don't see why not... Nothing should ever depend on whether something gets hashtaged or not. But seriously though, FBM is a private organisation, they can disqualify him for owning a bicycle, if they want to do that. The question is not, whether they can disqualify him, but whether they should. I personally don't think, that it is reasonable, since it was clear, that his choice of words was infuenced by not speaking english as his first language and thus heavily underestimating the impact of his words. I mean, everyone here should agree, that he did only try to trashtalk (and failed at that the worst way possible) without malicious intent here and did not actually threaten to do anything to Maddelisk. As I already did in the LR thread, I beg everyone to stay calm for a while and hope, that Kas apologizes to Maddelisk on a personal level and stuff gets sorted out without further drama, that is bad for everyone involved. | ||
Nightshake
France412 Posts
On November 22 2014 06:59 Yonnua wrote: Really hope cascade drop him for this. Absolutely disgusting thing to say, especially over twitter. Dropping an excellent and still mannered player for making a bad move and saying something that he apologized for is clearly abusive and exagerated. Stop being emotional and think with reason. | ||
Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
also nightend is a goddamn idiot | ||
Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
Kas apparently apologized and Maddelisk seemed to be fine with the apology, so we should not start a witchhunt against either side. And NightEnd is a fucking idiot | ||
HaRuHi
1220 Posts
On November 22 2014 07:00 Alchemik wrote: why wasn't MC DQ'd for saying the same thing about people during WCS? Did he? I don't follow twitter. But that was my thought, what if he made that statement about a male player? He probably wouldn't, because his statement plays on the gender of said player and if he were to make a gender play with the word rape on a male player that would be homophobic. It is a fine line he crossed, nice that he tries to communicate in english with his fans. | ||
Arghmyliver
United States1076 Posts
On November 22 2014 07:00 PassiveAce wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2014 06:58 duckk wrote: I have practiced with kas since wc3 2008, and he is without a doubt one of the most mannered and respectful players I know. Most likely came off differently than how he intended :/ yeah kas is known for being really cool. I hope it was a case of misunderstanding the language and he clears it up and apologizes This. I imagine it can be pretty scary being a non-English speaker in a predominately English competitive scene. Considering the fact that English is a second language to Kas and the historical usage of the word rape in the context of gaming, I think it's a reasonable possibility that Kas didn't quite know what he was saying. | ||
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