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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
November 19 2014 01:31 GMT
#21
There are no hotkeys for navigating the profiles and menus of BNET. Why? (backspace, escape, Ctrl+whatever, etc.)


For me I can with F1,F2,F3,F4
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linuxguru1
Profile Joined February 2012
110 Posts
November 19 2014 02:28 GMT
#22
On November 19 2014 06:48 SuperHofmann wrote:
I have to add that an hotkey for the top-right tab is needed. Is fucking redicolus that I cant press a key to know the race of my opponents


Also I would like a hotkey to open the 'request/send' resource menu in 2v2,3v3,4v4.... Or slash commands like: /send person 500m300g or /req 500m300g
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
November 19 2014 02:37 GMT
#23
I've felt most of these.
It's like a thousand needles.
Little things add up.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
xxJeep
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan2 Posts
November 19 2014 02:38 GMT
#24
I think a lot of these definitely have merit to them. I wanted to speak about a few that I don't agree with though:

On November 19 2014 06:22 MarlieChurphy wrote:

[*]Player portrait border is only for current season (which can be misleading if they haven't played much this season and are currently ranked bronze or something)


I don't care if someone was diamond last season, if they're platinum now, then they're platinum now. Yes, in certain situations this could be misleading, but I don't want someones mean ranking over the seasons, much less their top ranking shown. The most recent games and season should totally take priority.


[*]Ranked and Unranked can be playing the same game.. This above all things, reduces the integrity of the ladder. Probably the reason why everyone has been ranking lower on reset of season and struggling to climb ladder etc.


I think if we separated the ladders, we would not have enough people for either. All unranked games are are a chance for people with ladder anxiety to try a few games, or try out a new build. Unranked would certainly be a wasteland I'd feel, as searching already can take some time, depending what league you are in and the time of day.


[*]To leave a melee game, the hotkey command, and menu card are different. You press f10, N, Enter versus f10, Q in arcade. Why?


These games are actually different. 'Q' is to quit a game, where as 'N' is to surrender. They are different functions really, and for that reason they have different keys. You will notice that when someone surrenders in a melee game that you can return to battle to beat their dead corpse down. When you go to leave the game then, the hotkey IS 'Q'. You are quitting the game and no surrender is needed.

Lots of the other one's were great, but if this list is to be compiled into the most important problems, I would disclude the above.



PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
November 19 2014 02:56 GMT
#25
On November 19 2014 06:39 FoxDog wrote:
You forgot to mention buildings that are blocked off will never finish the current unit

I don't see how this is really an issue, or even a bug. There is nowhere for the units to spawn so they never finish. I think that's fair. It's either this or it finishes the units and has to stack them in some bizarre way in a blocked off location that you would have to get them out of anyway and can't actually fit them all.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
Ahli
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany355 Posts
November 19 2014 03:12 GMT
#26
Not sure if anyone else experiences that, but when I move my mouse, the bnet UI freezes. I need to use a higher polling rate like 1k hz and have interactive objects on the screen (e.g. match history or arcade or 2 minimized group windows).
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Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
November 19 2014 03:26 GMT
#27
Very informative post. I wish blizzard would take a look at this very forum topic. For League of Legends, they actually have GMs (rioters) that read and post there. They do that in the league of legends subreddit.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
November 19 2014 03:32 GMT
#28
everytime I offrace on unranked, people beg me to leave after I beat them. I always do if they weren't BM or anything, but how dumb is that, that it actually gives them points lol?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 03:37:41
November 19 2014 03:36 GMT
#29
half of the bugs have known solutions and cant be fixed other then you fixing it ^^ (like the map solution) and its known since years how to fix it ^^ so if youi still have the bug maybe just maybe its ur lazyness fault xD

overall i played broodwar for 12 years and i like bnet 2.0 how it is now with the chatrooms etc and everything more then the former one.

thats a "oh in the past was everything better" bs with forgetting how shitty everything really was xD
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 03:45:01
November 19 2014 03:43 GMT
#30
I fear it's already too late. The shitty GUI (particularly the poorly/slowly implemented social aspects - chat still sucks) is a big part of why I quit. I also remember that there was some stupid command that would host a game but automatically start the countdown once everyone joined the lobby. Just irritating and pointless.

Nitpick #5994: I remember being frustrated that you can't send clan invites to people who are offline or in game.... so unless you get them in that moment between ladder matches it takes forever to invite everyone. Why the fuck can't a clan invite be stored like a friend invite?

After playing dota for the last few months, it's become painfully obvious how inept Blizzard's been in regards to almost everything outside the actual game in SC2. Arcade is still just the worst and it's no wonder the game can't attract/keep casuals.

The SEA scene also got destroyed as players split up between servers. I can see when my friends are playing Hearthstone/WoW (yay...) but if they log into actual SC2 on Korea/US I won't know unless I check every half hour. Awesome community right there.
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kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
November 19 2014 04:50 GMT
#31
Not like its a new topic, but great job for compiling the list of problems and bringing it up again. One day Blizzard may listen.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 19 2014 05:02 GMT
#32
Virtually nothing from this list bothers me. I spend very little time in the battle.net UI and I don't see any reason to do otherwise, as I just want to play ladder. I would honestly much rather see Blizzard focusing on the actual game, add new content, expansions and whatnot than to put manpower into improving such inconsequential things.

Also I disagree with separating AT/RT and Unranked, it would just make waits longer or games more unbalanced (because the matchmaker relaxes the requirements for MMR closeness with increasing wait times) and it doesn't really hurt anything than people's egos.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
November 19 2014 05:17 GMT
#33
BW had a more simple interface, sc2 looks a lot more refined but unpolished.
They used to do a lot of refinement in wol, sad that they stopped in hots
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
November 19 2014 05:19 GMT
#34
+1 this list. I've had quite a lot of complaints with the amount of problems sc2 has in terms of its UI and bnet service, and you pretty much covered them all.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 19 2014 06:48 GMT
#35
Blizzard should at least fix the persistent ui bugs. The last patch fixed some, but the bugs still persist.
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 07:02:59
November 19 2014 07:02 GMT
#36
On November 19 2014 11:28 linuxguru1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2014 06:48 SuperHofmann wrote:
I have to add that an hotkey for the top-right tab is needed. Is fucking redicolus that I cant press a key to know the race of my opponents


Also I would like a hotkey to open the 'request/send' resource menu in 2v2,3v3,4v4.... Or slash commands like: /send person 500m300g or /req 500m300g


You can hotkey it. It's in the menu hotkeys. I used to have it set to F1, and would just scroll up with mouse wheel quickly and send if needed. It's useful.

I support this thread a lot, I still am a firm believer that they should reintroduce the channel system just as it was in BW... or at least something similar... I really cannot stand how this game's social interactions are made. It's honestly one of the worst I've seen of its time on PC.
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
November 19 2014 07:08 GMT
#37
This list gives me headache, its organization is poor, it's not hierachised, it's not edited, true issues are mixed with personnal preference whishes, some stuff is just remotly relevant, the justification behind your desired changes are often lacking and the overall tone is extremely agressive.

Bad work really, I hope for you cause that if ever someone from blizz read this, it will be on a day they have much patience and time in their hands and won't dismiss it as yet another rantish crap.

You say battle.net forums are trash, but it's because these kinda of posts that it can be called so, and unless you rewrite your post in a more clever way, you will be more of BNet forums standards than on TL.net standards.


I'm not saying you're wrong but the way you express your opinion matters, and it needs as much improvement as Battle.net UI.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
November 19 2014 07:18 GMT
#38
I have a feeling that this won't end up with any constructive discussion, because the people who agree with this post have already quit, and the ones reading it are still playing despite these flaws.

Either way, if Blizzard hasn't addressed these things in 4+ years, there's probably very little to be optimistic about regarding Bnet.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
November 19 2014 07:42 GMT
#39
There's a whole lot of small issues that could be fixed, and they add up. However, if I had to choose between automated tournaments and all of these things getting fixed, I'd probably be in favor of the tournaments. In any case, I hope Blizzard can prioritize getting at least some of these done.
TrutY
Profile Joined March 2012
Croatia26 Posts
November 19 2014 07:52 GMT
#40
Auto join country chat channel selectable from drop menu in settings. All i fa****g need for game not to feel like a graveyard!
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