EPTa key thing to keep in mind is that you don't -have- to micro. Diehards like you and me like to feel epic and micro our stuff like the pros we idolize because it's cool. For casuals, not microing isn't as bad as the opponent probably isn't microing either.
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
a key thing to keep in mind is that you don't -have- to micro. Diehards like you and me like to feel epic and micro our stuff like the pros we idolize because it's cool. For casuals, not microing isn't as bad as the opponent probably isn't microing either. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Nice. But I have the feeling that they won't be as good because of the way the AI works in SC2. Forming arcs around them renders them useless. Seems like Blizzard rather intents them for sieges... You realise forming arcs around lurkers was always the counter right? | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On November 08 2014 18:50 Terence Chill wrote: aaaaaaand zerg seems like being the punching ball yet again Zerg: +Ravager +Lurker +Infestor ability +Corruptor ability +InvinciNydus +Combined Hydra upgrades ~Changed SH Protoss: +Disruptor +Oracle ability +buffed Warp Prism +buffed Carrier ~Changed Tempest -harder to use Immortal -PO can't target air -Warp In nerf Zerg is punching bag. Fecking lol. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On November 08 2014 18:53 Sapphire.lux wrote: Dude, stop thinking about balance. That will change a lot even during the live game. It's the design that we can discuss. I still cant believe how bold Blizzard is and how they focused on skill units rather then the regular hard counters and "cool" effects. Something tells Dustin was not the main man behind these changes. Browder's off SC2, at least for the most part. They brought on several devs of the cancelled C&C Generals 2, so I imagine it's mostly them and Kim. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 08 2014 18:58 pure.Wasted wrote: Zerg: +Ravager +Lurker +Infestor ability +Corruptor ability +InvinciNydus +Combined Hydra upgrades ~Changed SH Protoss: +Disruptor +Oracle ability +buffed Warp Prism +buffed Carrier ~Changed Tempest -harder to use Immortal -PO can't target air -Warp In nerf Zerg is punching bag. Fecking lol. I swear that majority of people didn't think for 2 minutes before they have posted some of those negative comments. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 08 2014 18:58 Qikz wrote: You realise forming arcs around lurkers was always the counter right? But it happens much smoother in sc2 AI. On the other hand, units clump more. So theres pros and cons. We can adjust when necessary | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
Said that, i loved the direction they went for. The new concept for SH, BC and Carrier is amazing. Do some damage and get out before the enemy engages, and in a late game scenario! The designs for Herc, and ravager are good and its great to have the lurker back ^^. Hercs might make TvT more awesome, shooting those hooks on tanks, Ravager have this amazing positional anti-ff shot and lurkers deal splash damage with ranged tech, ZvZ is probably saved too  Not sure about cyclone and disruptor, they look silly. "Mech needs a way to deal with ultralisks" and "Protoss needs splash damage for the opponent to micro against" Would love to see 2 new units for protoss, throwing the disruptor on the trash bin, and the cyclone i just don't get what they are supposed to do for terran. Liked other changes, but its too much stuff to write about ^^. | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
pcs have come a long way since sc2 got out, hardware-wise it would be easy to slightly increase the visible area of the screen, up the supply limit to 300, and have really epic battles :o | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On November 08 2014 04:44 IntoTheheart wrote: So are we calling this SC2: Legacy of the Void, or SC3? I can't remember the last "expansion" that changes things as big as this. Brood war? Medic lurker valkyrie devourer ultralisk armor dark templar dark archon corsair... | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On November 08 2014 19:12 nimdil wrote: Brood war? Medic lurker valkyrie devourer ultralisk armor dark templar dark archon corsair... TFT is still the biggest. Changed damage/armor types, overall caster nerf, tavern heroes, buildable shops, 1 more hero per race, eight new units, a bunch of new upgrades. This comes pretty close, though. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8505 Posts
On November 08 2014 19:16 pure.Wasted wrote: TFT is still the biggest. Changed damage/armor types, overall caster nerf, tavern heroes, buildable shops, 1 more hero per race, eight new units, a bunch of new upgrades. This comes pretty close, though. yeah. and it turned an already very good game into an excellent one. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
I'm not sure what makes the disrupter cost 300 gas when, in-game, it seemed like a worse version of a cheap as can be widow mine... More than anything, outside of the herc, I find Blizzard's lack of creativity to be kinda pathetic. Maybe these guys are focusing on too many different games to truly make anything good. The best change is having the lurker back. While I don't mind them trying to replicate spells/units from BW, that's something anyone can do. When it comes to truly original ideas, all I can do is look at the units that show the least semblance to something they have copied and think "wow... maybe they shouldn't think for themselves anymore." As long as the swarm host is in the game, in any form, I can't take this game seriously or anyone involved in it. I just think it's a joke, and I feel so ashamed to even be associated with the game in any manner. It's embarrassing. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Never again | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On November 08 2014 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: So after watching the Life vs San game, I just imagined the whole thing with flying locusts Never again Stephano/Firecake with flying locusts. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 08 2014 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: So after watching the Life vs San game, I just imagined the whole thing with flying locusts Never again Nah, Swarm Hosts are changed to harassment/mid game push unit, you won't see any more turtling with them with how they are changed. | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
The other units/changes seem fun and interesting. | ||
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Omnidroid
New Zealand214 Posts
. New terran units look like cheap robot toys that I had as a kid.Cinematics look good as always. | ||
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Miragee
8505 Posts
On November 08 2014 18:58 Qikz wrote: You realise forming arcs around lurkers was always the counter right? You realise that forming arcs around lurkers in bw had to be done manually while in sc2 units do this almost entirely by themselves? | ||
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