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Last Edited: 2014-10-31 21:11:43
October 16 2014 20:52 GMT
#1

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Road to BlizzCon 2014

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Major Arcana

by TL Writers

With Blizzcon coming up we obviously had to have something cool in the works again. Last year's article series was a huge accomplishment for us and it was extremely well received. This year though we have got more active writing staff than almost ever before, we've got highly talented graphics wizards in Meru and shiroiusagi supporting us and more time to plan and prepare. So with all that and more in mind, we decided to run a rather unique theme for this series.

These articles follow the Major Arcana theme. Simply put, the Major Arcana are trump cards in a Tarot deck, and each card has its own meaning. The meaning of each card is very open to interpretation, with some cards representing wildly different aspects - both positive and negative. Each player at Blizzcon was assigned a card by our writing staff, the one that we collectively felt best fits the player's individual story. So why are we doing this?

Card


Races

6 Terrans 6 Protoss 4 Zerg

Prize Pool

$250,000 Total
$100,000 First Prize

Format

Single Elimination BracketRo16 - Bo5
Ro8 - Bo5
Semi Finals - Bo5
Finals - Bo7
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-> We now have the passion AND manpower to put something like this together. Nothing can stop us now!

-> We went with a very common and general type of article series last year, and we often do the same for individual players throughout the year. We try to identify their individual storylines, or those within a group or series, and write about them. With a lot of those same players from last year's Blizzcon also competing at this year's event, we would run the risk of sounding repetitive if we wrote these previews in the same fashion. Players like MC in particular were at risk of getting what would essentially be rehashed article from last year, which is something we really didn't want.

-> It lets us work with a very creative and fun approach. Writing can and should be fun at times!

-> We think you will enjoy these special articles for the biggest SC2 spectacle of the year. It gives the whole thing an extraordinary feeling that you won't get for any other event.

Now, keep in mind that these articles are not about comparing the players to their assigned card. Instead, think of the card (and what it stands for) as the overall theme of their article. Sometimes we have to think outside the box to come up with an interesting angle to apply. Bearing in mind that with how open the Major Arcana cards are to interpretation, it's very possible that you've thought of angles that we haven't or that your idea of the player's essence (which is what we tried to dig into with these articles) is different from the writer's.

If you're interested in tracking our thought process, feel free to read up on the Major Arcana and the meaning of its cards and tell us how wrong we are for not assigning card X to player Z!

We hope you'll enjoy this year's Road to Blizzcon series as much as we've enjoyed working on it.

Here are a few resources for those interested in delving deeper into the meanings of the individual cards:

Major Arcana on Wikipedia (there are also links to each individual cards with a number of references available)
Major Arcana's different cards
A few keywords for each card


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PoltPolt
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Writers: TL WritersGraphics: shiroiusagi, MeruPhoto Credit: inven eSports, Fomos, Silverfire, itsjustatank, Dreamhack, Blizzard, Helena Kristiansson, ESLEditors: Zealously, DarkLordOlli, lichter
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 20:58:12
October 16 2014 20:55 GMT
#2
MAJOR ARCANA HYPE

Here are a few resources for those interested in delving deeper into the meanings of the individual cards:

Major Arcana on Wikipedia (there are also links to each individual cards with a number of references available)
Major Arcana's different cards
A few keywords for each card
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 16 2014 20:55 GMT
#3
Good luck. I'm very excited!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Rathwirt
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
October 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#4
Sounds like fun.
Ruyn
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Switzerland17 Posts
October 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#5
Get hype !!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#6
ARE YOU READY
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 16 2014 21:03 GMT
#7
On October 17 2014 06:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
ARE YOU READY


ARE YOU HYPE
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
October 16 2014 21:04 GMT
#8
God I like this !
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
October 16 2014 21:09 GMT
#9
SO HYPE MUCH EPIC
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
October 16 2014 21:28 GMT
#10
My body is ready!
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Propelled
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark184 Posts
October 16 2014 21:40 GMT
#11
Sounds like fun. Looking forward to reading them.
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands684 Posts
October 16 2014 21:40 GMT
#12
Awesome! New hype articles!

Side note:I like how I checked the wiki for "The Fool" (which is my nickname) and found that the article contained a wiki link to the term "Heyoka". TL is everywhere!
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Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
October 16 2014 22:14 GMT
#13
This is awesome!! :D
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 16 2014 22:26 GMT
#14
Sounds dope! Really looking forward to this, I love it when you guys get fun with the writing!
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 16 2014 23:29 GMT
#15
On October 17 2014 06:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 06:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
ARE YOU READY


ARE YOU HYPE

ARE YOU PASHUN
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 23:35:56
October 16 2014 23:35 GMT
#16
I think Jaedong would make a lot of sense as the hanged man.

Also makes for good puns if the Dong is hung.
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Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
October 17 2014 00:00 GMT
#17
My passion is throbbing.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 00:49:08
October 17 2014 00:39 GMT
#18
I hope it can remain understood that I only mean this as constructive criticism. I have always appreciated the writing of TL staff. It's a huge part of why I use TL and became a part of the community. I genuinely love the articles TL staff have produced over the years. I just want to say that the theme stuff seems like a crutch for real writing and a lot of the time it's such a narrow, singular thing that it doesn't even resonate with most people. You might see a lot of people commenting in a manner that indicates that they got it and enjoyed it, but the people who don't aren't going to be speaking up to say so. It's not a big deal, and I'm not the least bit agitated, but a lot of the time it seems like less professional content because it translates content that should be universal to us all into something that is often foreign to the majority of people, even if a significant minority still exist and relate to it.

Just some feedback on writing.. that I don't expect will go very far, because this thematic stuff has become the way of things on TL... but for my two cents, I have always appreciated the articles that don't try to achieve being fun or engaging via that particular route of being thematic. The gimmick gets old after a while, and simply changing out the face of the gimmick doesn't combat the inevitable drying up of the novelty itself. I think it takes away from the core content. Sometimes I get the vibe that it's more of a self-indulgent angle that the writer is enjoying, and that it is done more-so for the writer(s) than for the audience. But I could completely mistaken. I know there are people who feel the opposite of how I do, too.

Here's this for consideration - how do thematic TL articles, being taken as sports or esports writing (if we may equivocate) compare to standard, professional sports coverage. One thing is clear: my feedback comes from a person who prefers something more than less professional. I think it's more engaging, more universally accessable, and much better for our scene and for the writers themselves moving forward in their careers. Consider yourselves as applying for a serious writing gig in the future, where you are a paid employee. If the work you have to show has you comparing people to tarot cards and pokemon, you probably aren't going to be making a very professional impression.

That all being said, I think there are some great points and reasoning in the OP, and I won't be surprised if I enjoy this thematic angle. It's not as if I haven't before! And I am very much looking forward to these articles, as I do all TL articles. I very much appreciate the work and will definitely be reading these articles and all the future articles that you all put out, with or without the usual thematic stuff. I hope it makes enough sense to post this feedback here, on a thread specifically about the style of these articles.

This comes from someone who has often considered becoming a TL writer but who hasn't done what all of you have, in actually going through with that and putting in the time and energy to do it. So please don't mistake me for being without a measure of gratitude and humbleness in the face of that, while saying this.
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
October 17 2014 01:03 GMT
#19
TL taking announcement to another level with now announcement of preview articles
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
October 17 2014 01:04 GMT
#20
I'm excited that soO is the last article. Really the story of the year.
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ysjayc
Profile Joined December 2010
China70 Posts
October 17 2014 01:14 GMT
#21
Excellent work and great effort, just forward to all of those articles!!
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
October 17 2014 02:00 GMT
#22
here we go :D

I was looking forward to this years work and I'm glad to see it's a different format.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 17 2014 02:01 GMT
#23
This is why TL = <3
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
October 17 2014 02:08 GMT
#24
bring them in
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kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
October 17 2014 03:27 GMT
#25
Juan cards?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10824 Posts
October 17 2014 03:31 GMT
#26
Tarot cards? Wat? mind = blown
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
October 17 2014 04:55 GMT
#27
Woot I'm very excited!
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HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
October 17 2014 05:53 GMT
#28
MMA must be the Star !!!! :p
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 17 2014 06:12 GMT
#29
Looks really really slick so far guys, nice work
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OgerGolg
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany65 Posts
October 17 2014 07:33 GMT
#30
Yeah announcement for announcmenet articles about blizz con! Hype. Looking forward to JAEEEEEEDONG!

and the Korean National Champhionships in California It is a b it like KCON.
OERTW
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 17 2014 07:33 GMT
#31
oh god that sounds good! can't wait to read it all
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
October 17 2014 07:40 GMT
#32
I'm siked mvp was the link
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 17 2014 08:04 GMT
#33
On October 17 2014 09:39 Lumi wrote:
I hope it can remain understood that I only mean this as constructive criticism. I have always appreciated the writing of TL staff. It's a huge part of why I use TL and became a part of the community. I genuinely love the articles TL staff have produced over the years. I just want to say that the theme stuff seems like a crutch for real writing and a lot of the time it's such a narrow, singular thing that it doesn't even resonate with most people. You might see a lot of people commenting in a manner that indicates that they got it and enjoyed it, but the people who don't aren't going to be speaking up to say so. It's not a big deal, and I'm not the least bit agitated, but a lot of the time it seems like less professional content because it translates content that should be universal to us all into something that is often foreign to the majority of people, even if a significant minority still exist and relate to it.

Just some feedback on writing.. that I don't expect will go very far, because this thematic stuff has become the way of things on TL... but for my two cents, I have always appreciated the articles that don't try to achieve being fun or engaging via that particular route of being thematic. The gimmick gets old after a while, and simply changing out the face of the gimmick doesn't combat the inevitable drying up of the novelty itself. I think it takes away from the core content. Sometimes I get the vibe that it's more of a self-indulgent angle that the writer is enjoying, and that it is done more-so for the writer(s) than for the audience. But I could completely mistaken. I know there are people who feel the opposite of how I do, too.

Here's this for consideration - how do thematic TL articles, being taken as sports or esports writing (if we may equivocate) compare to standard, professional sports coverage. One thing is clear: my feedback comes from a person who prefers something more than less professional. I think it's more engaging, more universally accessable, and much better for our scene and for the writers themselves moving forward in their careers. Consider yourselves as applying for a serious writing gig in the future, where you are a paid employee. If the work you have to show has you comparing people to tarot cards and pokemon, you probably aren't going to be making a very professional impression.

That all being said, I think there are some great points and reasoning in the OP, and I won't be surprised if I enjoy this thematic angle. It's not as if I haven't before! And I am very much looking forward to these articles, as I do all TL articles. I very much appreciate the work and will definitely be reading these articles and all the future articles that you all put out, with or without the usual thematic stuff. I hope it makes enough sense to post this feedback here, on a thread specifically about the style of these articles.

This comes from someone who has often considered becoming a TL writer but who hasn't done what all of you have, in actually going through with that and putting in the time and energy to do it. So please don't mistake me for being without a measure of gratitude and humbleness in the face of that, while saying this.


Thank you for taking time to provide us with some feedback. I'll try to address a few of your points:

The core issue is that we're a group of some 10-12 active volunteers (and of those, maybe half produce 75% of articles) with lives that demand attention and time. We've spent a lot of time writing what you would probably categorize as "standard" articles, and it wouldn't be a stretch to estimate that stuchiu, Olli, lichter and I have somewhere in the vicinity of 200+ standard articles between us.

We like writing, but we spend countless hours each week (or I do) doing it and eventually that starts to feel stale. We don't always feel interested in writing that GSL recap or the preview for 2014 WCS EU Season 2 Ro32 Group E, so these articles - the ones with off-the-wall thematic approaches and innovative angles - they're the ones we really enjoy writing. From experience, I know that the unique articles like the ones leading up to Blizzcon last year or the editorials stuchiu has run are the fun ones. In essence, they're what makes me feel like putting in hundreds of hours a year is worth it.

I'm also not sure I think that professional is necessarily the way to go. We long for eSports to become recognized and legitimate, but it's worth considering that we love eSports for what it is, not necessarily what it would be if it were run like the NBA or the NHL. Those leagues have their merits, but I enjoy the sheer fun of competitive Starcraft II a great deal more than I enjoy faux professionalism, advertisements plastered everywhere and scripted crap. I'm not saying professional isn't without merit, but eSports is so niche that the target audience for which we write is small enough that we can make thematic approaches like Pokémon or Tarot and know that the majority of readers will either understand it or make an effort to. Might that hurt my chances at getting hired somewhere on the back off my TL body of work? Maybe. But I don't write on TL to secure a job somewhere. It might be a bonus having a hundred and fifty articles written that all resonate with the employer's sport interests, but it's not why we do this and I don't think we'd like to trade off all the fun we have doing this for a more professional and, ultimately, stale approach.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
October 17 2014 09:34 GMT
#34
On October 17 2014 06:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 06:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
ARE YOU READY


ARE YOU HYPE


ARE YOU SITTING AT THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT?
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
October 17 2014 10:00 GMT
#35
I love the idea of using Tarots, I'm curious as to who will be what. Does Hyun get The World for his globetrotting antics?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
October 17 2014 10:10 GMT
#36
Great idea
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 17 2014 10:19 GMT
#37
On October 17 2014 17:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 09:39 Lumi wrote:
I hope it can remain understood that I only mean this as constructive criticism. I have always appreciated the writing of TL staff. It's a huge part of why I use TL and became a part of the community. I genuinely love the articles TL staff have produced over the years. I just want to say that the theme stuff seems like a crutch for real writing and a lot of the time it's such a narrow, singular thing that it doesn't even resonate with most people. You might see a lot of people commenting in a manner that indicates that they got it and enjoyed it, but the people who don't aren't going to be speaking up to say so. It's not a big deal, and I'm not the least bit agitated, but a lot of the time it seems like less professional content because it translates content that should be universal to us all into something that is often foreign to the majority of people, even if a significant minority still exist and relate to it.

Just some feedback on writing.. that I don't expect will go very far, because this thematic stuff has become the way of things on TL... but for my two cents, I have always appreciated the articles that don't try to achieve being fun or engaging via that particular route of being thematic. The gimmick gets old after a while, and simply changing out the face of the gimmick doesn't combat the inevitable drying up of the novelty itself. I think it takes away from the core content. Sometimes I get the vibe that it's more of a self-indulgent angle that the writer is enjoying, and that it is done more-so for the writer(s) than for the audience. But I could completely mistaken. I know there are people who feel the opposite of how I do, too.

Here's this for consideration - how do thematic TL articles, being taken as sports or esports writing (if we may equivocate) compare to standard, professional sports coverage. One thing is clear: my feedback comes from a person who prefers something more than less professional. I think it's more engaging, more universally accessable, and much better for our scene and for the writers themselves moving forward in their careers. Consider yourselves as applying for a serious writing gig in the future, where you are a paid employee. If the work you have to show has you comparing people to tarot cards and pokemon, you probably aren't going to be making a very professional impression.

That all being said, I think there are some great points and reasoning in the OP, and I won't be surprised if I enjoy this thematic angle. It's not as if I haven't before! And I am very much looking forward to these articles, as I do all TL articles. I very much appreciate the work and will definitely be reading these articles and all the future articles that you all put out, with or without the usual thematic stuff. I hope it makes enough sense to post this feedback here, on a thread specifically about the style of these articles.

This comes from someone who has often considered becoming a TL writer but who hasn't done what all of you have, in actually going through with that and putting in the time and energy to do it. So please don't mistake me for being without a measure of gratitude and humbleness in the face of that, while saying this.


Thank you for taking time to provide us with some feedback. I'll try to address a few of your points:

The core issue is that we're a group of some 10-12 active volunteers (and of those, maybe half produce 75% of articles) with lives that demand attention and time. We've spent a lot of time writing what you would probably categorize as "standard" articles, and it wouldn't be a stretch to estimate that stuchiu, Olli, lichter and I have somewhere in the vicinity of 200+ standard articles between us.

We like writing, but we spend countless hours each week (or I do) doing it and eventually that starts to feel stale. We don't always feel interested in writing that GSL recap or the preview for 2014 WCS EU Season 2 Ro32 Group E, so these articles - the ones with off-the-wall thematic approaches and innovative angles - they're the ones we really enjoy writing. From experience, I know that the unique articles like the ones leading up to Blizzcon last year or the editorials stuchiu has run are the fun ones. In essence, they're what makes me feel like putting in hundreds of hours a year is worth it.

I'm also not sure I think that professional is necessarily the way to go. We long for eSports to become recognized and legitimate, but it's worth considering that we love eSports for what it is, not necessarily what it would be if it were run like the NBA or the NHL. Those leagues have their merits, but I enjoy the sheer fun of competitive Starcraft II a great deal more than I enjoy faux professionalism, advertisements plastered everywhere and scripted crap. I'm not saying professional isn't without merit, but eSports is so niche that the target audience for which we write is small enough that we can make thematic approaches like Pokémon or Tarot and know that the majority of readers will either understand it or make an effort to. Might that hurt my chances at getting hired somewhere on the back off my TL body of work? Maybe. But I don't write on TL to secure a job somewhere. It might be a bonus having a hundred and fifty articles written that all resonate with the employer's sport interests, but it's not why we do this and I don't think we'd like to trade off all the fun we have doing this for a more professional and, ultimately, stale approach.


For what it's worth, as a reader of every TL article since early 2012, I completely agree with your approach, Zealously. The "standard" previews and recaps are necessary - they provide the foundation of information, but these articles (which you can feel have gotten a lot more love) and the editorials, special player profiles (Sora last year, for example) et cetera; those are what uses the information that is already provided and put through to us. Last year's BlizzCon articles were a highlight of TL writing, and I have full faith that these will be as good or better.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 17 2014 10:29 GMT
#38
Great idea, it's interesting to go out of the traditional preview format
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Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
October 17 2014 10:35 GMT
#39
hypeuuuuu!!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 17 2014 10:50 GMT
#40
On October 17 2014 17:04 Zealously wrote:
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On October 17 2014 09:39 Lumi wrote:
I hope it can remain understood that I only mean this as constructive criticism. I have always appreciated the writing of TL staff. It's a huge part of why I use TL and became a part of the community. I genuinely love the articles TL staff have produced over the years. I just want to say that the theme stuff seems like a crutch for real writing and a lot of the time it's such a narrow, singular thing that it doesn't even resonate with most people. You might see a lot of people commenting in a manner that indicates that they got it and enjoyed it, but the people who don't aren't going to be speaking up to say so. It's not a big deal, and I'm not the least bit agitated, but a lot of the time it seems like less professional content because it translates content that should be universal to us all into something that is often foreign to the majority of people, even if a significant minority still exist and relate to it.

Just some feedback on writing.. that I don't expect will go very far, because this thematic stuff has become the way of things on TL... but for my two cents, I have always appreciated the articles that don't try to achieve being fun or engaging via that particular route of being thematic. The gimmick gets old after a while, and simply changing out the face of the gimmick doesn't combat the inevitable drying up of the novelty itself. I think it takes away from the core content. Sometimes I get the vibe that it's more of a self-indulgent angle that the writer is enjoying, and that it is done more-so for the writer(s) than for the audience. But I could completely mistaken. I know there are people who feel the opposite of how I do, too.

Here's this for consideration - how do thematic TL articles, being taken as sports or esports writing (if we may equivocate) compare to standard, professional sports coverage. One thing is clear: my feedback comes from a person who prefers something more than less professional. I think it's more engaging, more universally accessable, and much better for our scene and for the writers themselves moving forward in their careers. Consider yourselves as applying for a serious writing gig in the future, where you are a paid employee. If the work you have to show has you comparing people to tarot cards and pokemon, you probably aren't going to be making a very professional impression.

That all being said, I think there are some great points and reasoning in the OP, and I won't be surprised if I enjoy this thematic angle. It's not as if I haven't before! And I am very much looking forward to these articles, as I do all TL articles. I very much appreciate the work and will definitely be reading these articles and all the future articles that you all put out, with or without the usual thematic stuff. I hope it makes enough sense to post this feedback here, on a thread specifically about the style of these articles.

This comes from someone who has often considered becoming a TL writer but who hasn't done what all of you have, in actually going through with that and putting in the time and energy to do it. So please don't mistake me for being without a measure of gratitude and humbleness in the face of that, while saying this.


Thank you for taking time to provide us with some feedback. I'll try to address a few of your points:

The core issue is that we're a group of some 10-12 active volunteers (and of those, maybe half produce 75% of articles) with lives that demand attention and time. We've spent a lot of time writing what you would probably categorize as "standard" articles, and it wouldn't be a stretch to estimate that stuchiu, Olli, lichter and I have somewhere in the vicinity of 200+ standard articles between us.

We like writing, but we spend countless hours each week (or I do) doing it and eventually that starts to feel stale. We don't always feel interested in writing that GSL recap or the preview for 2014 WCS EU Season 2 Ro32 Group E, so these articles - the ones with off-the-wall thematic approaches and innovative angles - they're the ones we really enjoy writing. From experience, I know that the unique articles like the ones leading up to Blizzcon last year or the editorials stuchiu has run are the fun ones. In essence, they're what makes me feel like putting in hundreds of hours a year is worth it.

I'm also not sure I think that professional is necessarily the way to go. We long for eSports to become recognized and legitimate, but it's worth considering that we love eSports for what it is, not necessarily what it would be if it were run like the NBA or the NHL. Those leagues have their merits, but I enjoy the sheer fun of competitive Starcraft II a great deal more than I enjoy faux professionalism, advertisements plastered everywhere and scripted crap. I'm not saying professional isn't without merit, but eSports is so niche that the target audience for which we write is small enough that we can make thematic approaches like Pokémon or Tarot and know that the majority of readers will either understand it or make an effort to. Might that hurt my chances at getting hired somewhere on the back off my TL body of work? Maybe. But I don't write on TL to secure a job somewhere. It might be a bonus having a hundred and fifty articles written that all resonate with the employer's sport interests, but it's not why we do this and I don't think we'd like to trade off all the fun we have doing this for a more professional and, ultimately, stale approach.

I read the piece about Classic and it wasn't lacking in any area, nor did the style make it wacky. Combined with a strategy article this preview is perfectly well informed and full of essence.

Also it's not like regular sport journalists never try something unorthodox and usually it's refreshing to most readers rather than to a minority.
y0su
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Finland7871 Posts
October 17 2014 10:56 GMT
#41
First article was good but I'm hoping for a bit more... I guess tactical analysis... Was well written tho and I look forward to the next one!
Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 17 2014 10:58 GMT
#42
On October 17 2014 19:56 y0su wrote:
First article was good but I'm hoping for a bit more... I guess tactical analysis... Was well written tho and I look forward to the next one!

Did you read the complimentary strategy article?
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 17 2014 11:18 GMT
#43
On October 17 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
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On October 17 2014 19:56 y0su wrote:
First article was good but I'm hoping for a bit more... I guess tactical analysis... Was well written tho and I look forward to the next one!

Did you read the complimentary strategy article?

Why is there no link to the strategy article in the "main" article? (Or am I just not seeing it?)
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 17 2014 11:21 GMT
#44
It's on the frontpage!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/469298-classic-virtually-anything-can-happen-at-blizzcon
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 17 2014 11:24 GMT
#45
cool
reminds me of Escaflowne
beep boop
Amazonic
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Sweden239 Posts
October 17 2014 11:30 GMT
#46
Aww yiss. Really liked the last series, looking forward to the new ones.
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trada
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Germany347 Posts
October 17 2014 11:34 GMT
#47
so this article tells me that theres going to be an article.

the hype
~
OtherWorld
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France17333 Posts
October 17 2014 11:38 GMT
#48
On October 17 2014 20:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's on the frontpage!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/469298-classic-virtually-anything-can-happen-at-blizzcon

Yeah but I jumped directly on the Road To BlizzCon #1 from the sidebar, thus not seeing it at first D:
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Mute City2363 Posts
October 17 2014 12:00 GMT
#49
On October 17 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
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On October 17 2014 19:56 y0su wrote:
First article was good but I'm hoping for a bit more... I guess tactical analysis... Was well written tho and I look forward to the next one!

Did you read the complimentary strategy article?


*complementary

Sorry. And thanks for the articles )
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Profile Joined April 2010
Australia156 Posts
October 17 2014 13:13 GMT
#50
Judgement
Upright: Judgement, rebirth, inner calling, absolution
Reversed: Self-doubt, refusal of self-examination

Seems to fit Jaedong if he wins or crashes out!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 17 2014 13:18 GMT
#51
SO MUCH HYPE I CANT HEAR YOU
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 17 2014 13:49 GMT
#52
On October 17 2014 20:38 OtherWorld wrote:
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On October 17 2014 20:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's on the frontpage!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/469298-classic-virtually-anything-can-happen-at-blizzcon

Yeah but I jumped directly on the Road To BlizzCon #1 from the sidebar, thus not seeing it at first D:


You're not alone. They should be linked inside the preview, imo.
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United States3 Posts
October 17 2014 14:16 GMT
#53
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Trizztein
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada45 Posts
October 17 2014 21:07 GMT
#54
Unlike lumi I believe starcraft really doesn't have to be compared to the normal professional sport scene, and that yes, it could really add something to the reading of the articles to start them out with a comparison, just to open certain angles of view and making the writing/reading fun and different. Besides, TL article are not the «mainstream» articles I already very well could see
- Bomber as a good Chariot («impulsivity, bravery»)
- MC as Emperor (he rules them all!!)
- Polt, with his always so composed and impartial attitude, as Justice :D
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
October 17 2014 21:09 GMT
#55
Jaedong the devil confirmed!
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AceOfCakez
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
October 18 2014 01:21 GMT
#56
PERSONA! *shoots self in head*
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 18 2014 01:30 GMT
#57
I'm definitely gonna keep my eyes on this one.

If I had more time, I'd definitely try to sign up for the writing team and write hype articles.
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
October 23 2014 23:15 GMT
#58
is there a post where it has all the article links? i missed a few of the first ones...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 23 2014 23:16 GMT
#59
You can find them all on the front page at the moment. Also the index at the bottom of each article has a link to the other articles.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 31 2014 01:56 GMT
#60
I'm surprised there's not more debate on why we chose specific cards for specific players
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 02:10 GMT
#61
On October 31 2014 10:56 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised there's not more debate on why we chose specific cards for specific players


I don't know enough about it to debate
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 31 2014 02:25 GMT
#62
wow someone on the internet admitting he doesn't know enough and isn't an expert?!?!
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 31 2014 02:30 GMT
#63
On October 31 2014 10:56 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised there's not more debate on why we chose specific cards for specific players
most people are probably just confused about why there are cards in the first place
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
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