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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it. | ||
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b0zz
France20 Posts
I really thought that was an opportunity for everyone to be able to perform against the best there are out there.. What about the Grand Finale in 2015 mhh? Bly vs Rain .. ? Whoah.. quite a thrill! If some "top" korean players decide to move from korea to get their points that only means they dont have what it takes to win a GSL.. even if they are good.. so I dont think that drag down the korean level at all. | ||
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fealx
Germany376 Posts
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
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rawrx
United States380 Posts
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
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rikapi
United States63 Posts
I think region-locking is bad due to the nature of the WCS system leading to "Global Finals" - because the hopes for Proleague-team Koreans to participate in the "Global Finals" become dashed because lesser-skilled westerners can pad their WCS points with foreign tournaments while these skilled Koreans can't due to Proleague schedule tying them down. I'd like to see Bliz compensate the KR region's chances of getting into BlizzCon with WCS points for players excelling in Proleague (like top 16 in win counts in each round receive WCS points comparable to the top 16 in DH or IEM) because a lot of the super-skilled KR players can't be in the "top 16 of the world" due to commitment to Proleague not allowing them to rake in points in foreign tournaments. I'd also like to see a 4th "free-for-all" online-only region, but who am I kidding, that would end up as a second KR region so it probably won't happen lol | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
I can see the viewership taking a dive in a lot of the group stages of America \EU , due to lackluster game quality. I guess this is a win for Proleague overall,especially if they can sort out the top heavy Protoss contingent which is killing it at the moment As to Code S, i fell sorry for the it. Its stacked with the best players in the world and there just isnt enough points/ prize pool to go around. | ||
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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Morrissey
Germany55 Posts
Also it's kind of unfair, that koreans will have to play much better to get the same amount of points. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On September 05 2014 15:14 Cheeseling wrote: I think it's a bit too late for such region locking system to bring anything but even more harm to SC2. Almost all good NA players already gone and without koreans there will be nothing to watch. Never under estimate the power of free money. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On September 05 2014 15:04 b0zz wrote: As usual, Blizzard giving the whiners what they want.. Holy ***.. I thought that was about "e" sport and about who was the best in what is doing, no matter from where the players are from or the region they are playing in. I really thought that was an opportunity for everyone to be able to perform against the best there are out there.. What about the Grand Finale in 2015 mhh? Bly vs Rain .. ? Whoah.. quite a thrill! If some "top" korean players decide to move from korea to get their points that only means they dont have what it takes to win a GSL.. even if they are good.. so I dont think that drag down the korean level at all. beside you i see most people like the moves by blizzard so perhaps your oppinion isnt the only one ? and yes i would love bly vs rain more then rain vs solar because second would mean i am to bored to watch it ... On September 05 2014 15:32 Zealously wrote: Don't like this much at all, unfortunately. I can get behind a reset and requiring all players to re-qualify, but this will screw over Korean players unless Blizzard puts in money to help the GSL expand beyond it's current 3-season, 32-player format. why screw it over ? they can go to korea and play there or have visa and stay here ... its fair for everyone | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 05 2014 15:36 Drake wrote: beside you i see most people like the moves by blizzard so perhaps your oppinion isnt the only one ? and yes i would love bly vs rain more then rain vs solar because second would mean i am to bored to watch it ... why screw it over ? they can go to korea and play there or have visa and stay here ... its fair for everyone I see it pretty split right now, I don't know where you're getting that "most people like the moves" from. I think this is terrible. | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
I guess I do like watching foreigners get obliterated, though. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 05 2014 15:36 Drake wrote: beside you i see most people like the moves by blizzard so perhaps your oppinion isnt the only one ? and yes i would love bly vs rain more then rain vs solar because second would mean i am to bored to watch it ... why screw it over ? they can go to korea and play there or have visa and stay here ... its fair for everyone Because there are more Korean players. They have better players, more dedicated players, and unfortunately many of these players have trouble going overseas. What happens when we force most of them (Alright if 4 people manage to secure visas) is that a lot of Korean players will invariably retire. There are much more than 32 players that are good enough to be in Code S, and because a lot of players are teamless they have trouble going overseas. That leaves them getting paid only via Code A (sometimes even that) while Namshar or Adonminus get better shots at making money. If you think it's fair to screw over thirty-or-more hard-working Korean players (I think we can make a blanket statement saying that they definitely work harder at this point), I don't know what to tell you. | ||
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Morrissey
Germany55 Posts
On September 05 2014 15:36 Drake wrote: beside you i see most people like the moves by blizzard so perhaps your oppinion isnt the only one ? and yes i would love bly vs rain more then rain vs solar because second would mean i am to bored to watch it ... why screw it over ? they can go to korea and play there or have visa and stay here ... its fair for everyone No, it's not fair for everyone. Koreans will either have to move to EU or NA, or they will have to play much better than foreigners to get the same amounts of points. That's the definition of unfair. | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
I will say however that I think a certain degree of lock is good for actually having a fair share of americans in americas WCS. If there is any time when its a good move I think it is now, the foreign scene has exploded the recent months and are getting close to koreas level. If the lock would have come down 1 year ago the european and american scenes would have decayed into a very low level of skill. If they did that then then Polt would keep on winning easy, as it is now Polt can be taken down, any korean can be taken down. You want to argue Polt is still the undisputed god of America just let me remind you of Major, which is just one example. As it is now the foreign scene can stand on its own and grow from here, the skill and talent are there. Stop saying foreigners are low level or blizzcon will be a joke. An all korean blizzcon is definitely still possible and if foreigners do get there they can hold their own. | ||
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