EPTIncreased Discussions at Blizzard Regarding Skins - Page 8
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
edit: Also having a ranked ladder with F2P is very detrimental as it will generate infinite possibilities for hackers to get new accounts, like in LoL. Every time CS:GO goes on sale, matchmaking is flooded with cheaters and that is just horrible for gameplay. | ||
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Uni1987
Netherlands642 Posts
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
On August 03 2014 01:17 Uni1987 wrote: Make the game free while your at it, so the community grows instead of the ongoing collapsing, As completely sensible as you're being, Blizzard is not. They're only just now opening their minds that tiny smidgeon necessary to TALK more ...about skins. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 01 2014 13:11 ZenithM wrote: As long as units are easily distinguished, I don't mind. But I don't want people picking a skin because it's making it tougher for their opponents to play. Edit: And I don't think skins are specifically the thing that could maintain Starcraft or some shit. Making it F2P and finding another way to monetize it is. You could sell maps or campaign missions or something, that would be equally good or even better. I'd like custom 1-map mini-campaigns or mission maps, Age of Kings Conquerors style. Yeah, I don't really see it as a problem and as long as it was like Dota, you would always know what unit is what. Hell, they even a few custom animations and people figured it out and didn't become totally unable to play. I don't think they need a button to turn them off, but of course there would be very vocal section of the community that would scream at the top of their lungs and whine about someone moving their cheese. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On July 31 2014 18:09 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Fuck no. If they add skins/hats, I want button to switch them off so I don't need to see them. Agreed, always hated that. Ive been playing a bit of dota2 for almost 2 years and I still get confused by some hereos because of all these different skins... not the kind of thing you want in a competitive game. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
Making Sc2 free would kill that, not to mention map hacking is a pretty big issue with the game being play to buy, It would be a nightmare if it was free. | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:16 LingBlingBling wrote: Making Starcraft 2 free to play would kill the game. The only reason sponsors are even interested in Starcraft 2 teams, is because demographics of the player base are players typically 20 years + of age that have money to spend, and that is good player base to advertise to. Making Sc2 free would kill that, not to mention map hacking is a pretty big issue with the game being play to buy, It would be a nightmare if it was free. I dont understand how having more people play the game will hurt sponsorship. The same 20+ guys will buy skins or whatever. SC2 has very very very little real sponsors (companies outside of energy drinks and computer shit). Maphacking is not that big of an issue and being f2p or not isn't going to change that.. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:10 sM.Zik wrote: Agreed, always hated that. Ive been playing a bit of dota2 for almost 2 years and I still get confused by some hereos because of all these different skins... not the kind of thing you want in a competitive game. Except dota is a competitive game and I have never hard a single pro complain about skins. Every hero still looks like every hero, regardless of how awesome their hats are. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On July 31 2014 18:12 JustPassingBy wrote: This should be general courtesy. And I don't really care for skins, I want more campaigns! This, if they release high quality campaign missions I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks it. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On August 01 2014 12:45 .kv wrote: i expect team apparel like skt1 pls Yes please. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:35 Bigtony wrote: I dont understand how having more people play the game will hurt sponsorship. The same 20+ guys will buy skins or whatever. SC2 has very very very little real sponsors (companies outside of energy drinks and computer shit). Maphacking is not that big of an issue and being f2p or not isn't going to change that.. Map hacking is a huge issue in Blizzard RTS games, making SC2 free would destroy the game and be a nightmare for Blizzard who already struggles vs them. Free to play player base does not spend money like the current sc2 community does on sponsors gear. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On August 03 2014 04:11 LingBlingBling wrote: Map hacking is a huge issue in Blizzard RTS games, making SC2 free would destroy the game and be a nightmare for Blizzard who already struggles vs them. Free to play player base does not spend money like the current sc2 community does on sponsors gear. That's of course a given, but it's not as if the former precludes the latter. Also you're ignoring the huge effect in sustainability with having F2P in various scenes. Look at all the money poured into WC3/Dota/Heathstone in China/SEA. Unlike the WCS model of Blizzard charity, these scenes support themselves. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Still, I don't think it would change the feeling too much, since the player count will probably rise in proportion. But please Blizzard, make you game server based and not client based. Thank you. | ||
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:35 Bigtony wrote: Maphacking is not that big of an issue and being f2p or not isn't going to change that.. Are you ignoring every other game that has had huge discount sales and immediately afterwards a massive increase in cheating? When your game license / account costs nothing, there is nothing at stake for people who cheat. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On July 31 2014 18:34 LastManProductions wrote: Why are people against skins/cosmetics? If they are distracting you to much, maybe you should look into some ADD medication... Skins are kind of a scam, it's useless content that appeals largely to dimwits with too much money. I'm happy to move to a business model where I don't pay for anything because other people get duped into endless micro transactions and can cover financially, but it's kinda dystopian at the same time. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:42 Plansix wrote: Except dota is a competitive game and I have never hard a single pro complain about skins. Every hero still looks like every hero, regardless of how awesome their hats are. I never said it wasn't a competitive game and I never talked about progamers. I'm talking about my own experience while im trying to play this game. You can have your useless swag if that makes you feel better, just let me turn it off since it's annoying for me. | ||
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varsovie
Canada326 Posts
On August 03 2014 04:11 LingBlingBling wrote: Map hacking is a huge issue in Blizzard RTS games, making SC2 free would destroy the game and be a nightmare for Blizzard who already struggles vs them. Free to play player base does not spend money like the current sc2 community does on sponsors gear. How the fuck can you relate the pay model (and more so the inclusion of skins) to hack and cheating? It's an issue of engine (synchronous doesn't help) an security, not demographic. Of course bigger player base would mean more cheater, but I'm not sure the proportion would change much. The only thing is that it would be easier for them to "get a new account" if they get banned for cheating. But that would assume Blizzard was actively doing it in the first place. (hint: they seems lazy as fuck) Same for sponsor, why wouldn't they want the same player base they already have (people won't quite the game just because they can't pay $60 upfront) + all peoples that couldn't/don't want to afford it (East european countries, teenagers)? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ For the "bonus" skins/models/hats/sounds I would like to see them, and maybe even with "F2P" model. With only two conditions : -No advantages (visibility and hitbox of units should remain same) -Deactivable at least in ladder both for you and the others (I do NOT wanna see your shinny Ling skins) | ||
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
On July 31 2014 18:16 MajorBiscuit wrote: The button to disable skins kind of defeats their purpose though. Seeing others players have cool cosmetics in game is the biggest advertisement one can ask for. During TI all of the pro players had the latest skins released especially for TI and the casters at one game went like look at this cool Etheral Blade X player's Morphling has equiped. Although I certainly aggree that as long SC2 is a paid game that option should exist. That's fine, casters can turn it on and talk about it all day long, but when I'm on ladder playing versus the guy. I don't need to see his skins, it's distracting. | ||
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