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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On July 10 2014 14:31 kuan888 wrote: Is he the community caster from MLG back in the days ? I remember him from there, idk if he done other stuff tho... He casted for IPL after that Edit: no wait I might have mistaken him for another Robin | ||
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SharpFlex
Germany23 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States766 Posts
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Eggi
478 Posts
Id be too embarrassed | ||
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Magnum
United States62 Posts
Will the only games being shown on Sunday be the finals or the semi-finals? I cannot find a schedule anywhere. | ||
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
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autechr3
United States58 Posts
I know for a fact ArtOfWar and Theory are playing the finals for the local tourny tonight. | ||
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autechr3
United States58 Posts
On July 10 2014 11:04 Yhamm wrote: because he's not working as a caster now, he's in the organization He might be there though. He is from Georgia after all. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On July 10 2014 22:32 Eggi wrote: im amaz'd that ruff would show his face after this fiasco with alot of ROOT players attending. Id be too embarrassed I <3 that amaz easter egg-y. Also...agree about Ruff. Not that he's got much of a shot anyway. | ||
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Anlo
Sweden485 Posts
On July 10 2014 08:36 coL.hendralisk wrote: assuming u wont run into a polt in ro128/64  In true spirit of TL you cannon him if you run up against him becoming a true hero for all 'cross Europe, the one and only American champ gone and out to a scrub with cannons. Easy. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
I mean this is a great roster, and I'm definitely going to watch, but the competition here is small enough that I'm bothered that it has real WCS standings implications. Not really a criticism of this event, just with the WCS point distribution in general. Korea really needs to be weighted a lot heavier. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On July 11 2014 06:44 Vindicare605 wrote: Does it bother anyone else that this event is worth 4k WCS points? That's as much as IEM Sao Paolo and Cologne! I mean this is a great roster, and I'm definitely going to watch, but the competition here is small enough that I'm bothered that it has real WCS standings implications. Not really a criticism of this event, just with the WCS point distribution in general. Korea really needs to be weighted a lot heavier. you can't change the wcs point once you see the players list and you think it looks weak. and I don't think quality of players is a requirement to have wcs point, its about prizepool, number of players and being offline or online | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On July 11 2014 06:52 Yhamm wrote: you can't change the wcs point once you see the players list and you think it looks weak. and I don't think quality of players is a requirement to have wcs point, its about prizepool, number of players and being offline or online Why is that? The whole point of even having the point system is so that Blizzcon at the end of the year can crown the World Champion of Starcraft 2014. If the best players aren't there to compete doesn't that defeat the entire purpose? At this point I'd think I'd rather just remove all of the extra points awarded by these secondary events and have it rely solely on performance in the actual WCS tournaments. There's still money to be won so it's not like it would kill the event. As is, the only guys from WCS Korea that actually have a chance of going to Blizzcon are the ones that have actually WON the GSL, (and soO because of his 3 silvers.) That leaves out a LOT of top end players. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On July 11 2014 06:57 Vindicare605 wrote: Why is that? The whole point of even having the point system is so that Blizzcon at the end of the year can crown the World Champion of Starcraft 2014. If the best players aren't there to compete doesn't that defeat the entire purpose? At this point I'd think I'd rather just remove all of the extra points awarded by these secondary events and have it rely solely on performance in the actual WCS tournaments. There's still money to be won so it's not like it would kill the event. As is, the only guys from WCS Korea that actually have a chance of going to Blizzcon are the ones that have actually WON the GSL, (and soO because of his 3 silvers.) That leaves out a LOT of top end players. because that's not how it works. You don't decrease the prizepool of a tennis tournament because the player #1 forfeited 1 day before coming organizers say to blizzard "ok we do a tournament with xxx players, xxx money, and people can qualify like this and this, how many wcs point do we have?" blizzard won't answer "well, depends on who will come." since wcs points make good player come... | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On July 11 2014 07:01 Yhamm wrote: because that's not how it works. You don't decrease the prizepool of a tennis tournament because the player #1 forfeited 1 day before coming organizers say to blizzard "ok we do a tournament with xxx players, xxx money, and people can qualify like this and this, how many wcs point do we have?" blizzard won't answer "well, depends on who will come." since wcs points make good player come... I'm more just saying this to keep in mind what should be done about next year. If Blizzcon happens and there's only like 3 GSL players there total, that is going to be a bad thing and something Blizz needs to address when they lay out the format next year. Either GSL gets weighted a lot more heavily or they stop giving out points to events like this. The current format favors foreign players and players on foreign teams too much. 750 points for a first place here is worth as much as a top 4 placing in GSL. That's just not right. Polt or Bomber could earn as much as Maru did for the entire Season 2 with a win here. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On July 11 2014 07:07 Vindicare605 wrote: I'm more just saying this to keep in mind what should be done about next year. If Blizzcon happens and there's only like 3 GSL players there total, that is going to be a bad thing and something Blizz needs to address when they lay out the format next year. Either GSL gets weighted a lot more heavily or they stop giving out points to events like this. The current format favors foreign players and players on foreign teams too much. 750 points for a first place here is worth as much as a top 4 placing in GSL. That's just not right. Polt or Bomber could earn as much as Maru did for the entire Season 2 with a win here. The system is supposed to get the best players to travel to other regions. It's also supposed to encourage tournament organizers to put on tournaments. Your suggestion for next year is just giving up. In order to stick to the current goals and work on getting a stronger Blizzcon lineup, you need to get top GSL players to actually travel to these events or have some new Asian tournaments with WCS points pop up. I think those things would make for a better scene overall and they're as important to the purpose of the WCS as the actual finals in Blizzcon is. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On July 11 2014 07:31 NonY wrote: The system is supposed to get the best players to travel to other regions. It's also supposed to encourage tournament organizers to put on tournaments. Your suggestion for next year is just giving up. In order to stick to the current goals and work on getting a stronger Blizzcon lineup, you need to get top GSL players to actually travel to these events or have some new Asian tournaments with WCS points pop up. I think those things would make for a better scene overall and they're as important to the purpose of the WCS as the actual finals in Blizzcon is. I get why the incentive exists, honestly I do. I'm at this point just criticizing how much that incentive actually means in the overall standings. Last year the season finals existed to act as a kind of counter-weight to the foreign tournament point spread, this year no such thing exists. It costs a lot of money for the Koreans to travel abroad, and it's further compounded by their obligations to Proleague (which doesn't offer any WCS points just btw) so their team has a hard time justifying sending one of their best players abroad when that impacts their performance in proleague either due to lack of preparation or jet lag. Ideally yes, there should be some more tournaments held in Asia that award WCS points, but while none of those exist we continue to get this huge divide of opportunities for point gain based entirely on whether or not you're on a Korean team. I think most of this could just be solved by weighing the GSL more heavily. It's by far the most competitive tournament in the world, and I just can't see that changing barring some MASSIVE exodus to the other regions. Having it weigh as much as WCS AM or Europe just doesn't make much sense at this point. It doesn't reflect the true skill gap between the regions enough. Or we could just start offering WCS points to Proleague. I don't know how you'd spread that out but it's another option. | ||
XXTN
United States124 Posts
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