On June 05 2014 03:50 Ctone23 wrote: Maybe the community can help you out then. I hope you realize several other players would sacrifice a lot to be in your position. Hope it works out.
I'm sure with his attitude the community will be just be falling over themselves to throw money at him.
what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
If you're bragging about winning so much money, how are you complaining about not being able to afford to go to LA on your own? Just take what Blizzard is willing to give you and cover the rest yourself... It can't be more than $400, after Blizzard's stipend.
I'm sure with his attitude the community will be just be falling over themselves to throw money at him.
what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
Guys take it to pm's please if you have personal qualms, thanks.
I'm sure with his attitude the community will be just be falling over themselves to throw money at him.
what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
Guys take it to pm's please if you have personal qualms, thanks.
Are you serious? This is the most entertainment I've had all day man!
he forfeited his spot in homestorycup and some other tournament I can not remember and because of that I think this whole thing is pretty simple: major is afraid of flying
Pls name one premier tournament other than TSL, were you don't have to be in the region to play.
Most tournaments have multiple online qualifiers (IEM, NASL, HSC to name a few). Then there's usually partial/full subsidized travelling for those who qualify. Which is essentially the same as WCS format. But the difference is that GSL has none of those, there's no tournament out there that's more region locked than GSL.
DH also has no qualifiers, people have to pay that for themselves. EPS has no online qualifiers and still seems to get overrun by koreans next season. HSC is mostly invites, IEM partially. AFAIK at least HSC has a certain travelling budget for qualifiers as well, although that is pretty big IIRC.
Almost no tournaments do subsidized travel anymore. This guy claiming that everyone is doing it is nonsense. When there is subsidized travel it's generally one-two spots at the most, very rarely a full ride. The vast majority of people playing in those tournaments are paying out of their own pocket to go.
GSLs only region lock is the fact that nobody outside of Korea has the skill or the funds to play in it.
That is, what I was trying to tell him, that for example DH or EPS are exactly the same as GSL regarding region lock, but noone would call them totally region locked.
Qualified players from IEM, HSC and NASL were subsidized (source liquipedia). And I never said everyone... >.> I gave examples of premier tournaments to name a few. Seeded players I don't know.
Yes, but that also means, that for example 75% of HSC players don't get subsidized (at least not officially). Carmac explicitly stated, that IEM invites also have to pay for everythong themselves. You said in an earlier post, that there is "usually partial/full subsidized travelling", but that is just the case for a very small minority of players.
On June 05 2014 03:50 Ctone23 wrote: Maybe the community can help you out then. I hope you realize several other players would sacrifice a lot to be in your position. Hope it works out.
I'm sure with his attitude the community will be just be falling over themselves to throw money at him.
what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
haha.
Now this is something TB is definitely an expert on.
I'm sure with his attitude the community will be just be falling over themselves to throw money at him.
what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
hahaha ok btw i deserve the spot just cause i won it in a fair way(ladder rules of your tournament) and i can do w.e i want with my spot after that not that i tried to forfeit i tried to make it work playing from the lan i didnt overbook it on purpose they told me they would have a good computer for me to play on. they didnt what you want me to do?
and u cant call me playing like an idiot. have you seen your self play? lol
Sure, you can do whatever you want with your spot. What you chose to do was make a mockery of the event and make yourself look bad. In doing so you also tanked any possibility of that tournament ever coming back, sponsors won't touch it now thanks to the forfeits. They don't see the American scene as being something worthy of support and at this point I agree with them. I personally have no intention of doing NA only events anymore. You made a mockery of the event and the NA scene, seriously, you literally hurt your own scene which is a bit funny considering you're now trying to ask Blizzard to support it more.
Charity begins at home.
I'm sure my play is very relevant to the discussion. After all, I am a progamer....
Your record against my team is 16-6 btw and no that's not in your favour. Next time you want to talk about being busy beating up my players you might want to check Aligulac first
On June 05 2014 03:54 MajOr wrote: [quote] what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
Guys take it to pm's please if you have personal qualms, thanks.
On June 05 2014 02:15 Technique wrote: Be happy you get $500...
A pro would not need the tournament organizer to pay for him anyway... he's gonna win the money back and then some in the tournament.
I have several friends who are chess players, they (my friends) have to pay for their travel costs, hotels, fees to enter on any tournament. so if they don't win the prize, they plainly loss money.
esports is the only place where organizers must pay players to play in their tournaments. because somehow players can't loss any money ever.
I don't see chess bringing hundreds of thousands of viewers. This is a poor comparison. Blizzard doesn't do this to lose money; that is not how you operate a business. Every company has a budget for marketing: This gives them exposure of their product and brings strategic partners to the table.
Kim Phan has explicitly said that Blizzard does not run WCS with the hope of any profit
In my opinion I'd rather see Courage in the Ro16 over Major so if I'm being honest here, I kind of hoping he does forfeit. It appears not many people enjoy him as a player anyway, if I had to guess people only root for him because he's a terran foreigner...
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
Guys take it to pm's please if you have personal qualms, thanks.
that would be nice, yes.
But what will entertain me till tomorrow?
You can already prepare the billion jokes based off this in the RO16 preview.
On June 05 2014 04:12 SidianTheBard wrote: In my opinion I'd rather see Courage in the Ro16 over Major so if I'm being honest here, I kind of hoping he does forfeit. It appears not many people enjoy him as a player anyway, if I had to guess people only root for him because he's a terran foreigner...
Yeah it'd be fantastic to see Courage in the Ro16, just do Ling/Bling floods every single game and never transition, sick stuff man.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
Guys take it to pm's please if you have personal qualms, thanks.
that would be nice, yes.
But what will entertain me till tomorrow?
Yes, I would appreciate it if this could stay public! I was just searching for a new series to watch, but nothing will come close to this.
Pls name one premier tournament other than TSL, were you don't have to be in the region to play.
Most tournaments have multiple online qualifiers (IEM, NASL, HSC to name a few). Then there's usually partial/full subsidized travelling for those who qualify. Which is essentially the same as WCS format. But the difference is that GSL has none of those, there's no tournament out there that's more region locked than GSL.
DH also has no qualifiers, people have to pay that for themselves. EPS has no online qualifiers and still seems to get overrun by koreans next season. HSC is mostly invites, IEM partially. AFAIK at least HSC has a certain travelling budget for qualifiers as well, although that is pretty big IIRC.
Almost no tournaments do subsidized travel anymore. This guy claiming that everyone is doing it is nonsense. When there is subsidized travel it's generally one-two spots at the most, very rarely a full ride. The vast majority of people playing in those tournaments are paying out of their own pocket to go.
GSLs only region lock is the fact that nobody outside of Korea has the skill or the funds to play in it.
That is, what I was trying to tell him, that for example DH or EPS are exactly the same as GSL regarding region lock, but noone would call them totally region locked.
Qualified players from IEM, HSC and NASL were subsidized (source liquipedia). And I never said everyone... >.> I gave examples of premier tournaments to name a few. Seeded players I don't know.
Yes, but that also means, that for example 75% of HSC players don't get subsidized (at least not officially). Carmac explicitly stated, that IEM invites also have to pay for everythong themselves. You said in an earlier post, that there is "usually partial/full subsidized travelling", but that is just the case for a very small minority of players.
Sorry, I should've clarified previously that I was implying qualifiers. Since I was noting the differences in GSL and other premier tournaments. The differences in GSL qualifiers and other premier tournaments qualifiers makes GSL far more region locked.
edit: Why am I apologizing
Then there's usually partial/full subsidized travelling for those who qualify.
On June 05 2014 03:54 MajOr wrote: [quote] what you talking about? you read my skype nowdays? as i said i mesaged alot of people that should know about this involved with wcs, and they all ignored me what im supposed to do just sit there and do nothing? why you dont mnd your own shit.
A quick lesson. You forfeited the right to say "mind your own shit" as soon as you posted the crap all over Twitter. You made it public, deal with the consequences.
? nope you still can deal with your own shit, you dont have to put your nose on every TL thread.
It boggles the mind that you don't have a team, I can't imagine why
i am too busy beating your easy players
I think you mean forfeiting my tournaments. Do the same here, give the spot to someone who deserves it.
ah not bad brgining back and old tournament i am sorry ur salty about me forfeiting your tournament when i was playing from a exibition computer. as i told you already i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
I think you mean knowingly double-booking yourself, playing like an idiot then bailing on an event mid-series while MaSa was wiping the floor with you, after you took a spot from someone else. I wasn't aware lag also affected the brain.
For the record, the last time you beat one of my players was in September 2013 in Acer Teamstory cup (which was amusing because you didn't have a team then either), if you wanna talk about "old tournaments"
hahaha ok btw i deserve the spot just cause i won it in a fair way(ladder rules of your tournament) and i can do w.e i want with my spot after that not that i tried to forfeit i tried to make it work playing from the lan i didnt overbook it on purpose they told me they would have a good computer for me to play on. they didnt what you want me to do?
and u cant call me playing like an idiot. have you seen your self play? lol
Sure, you can do whatever you want with your spot. What you chose to do was make a mockery of the event and make yourself look bad. In doing so you also tanked any possibility of that tournament ever coming back, sponsors won't touch it now thanks to the forfeits. They don't see the American scene as being something worthy of support and at this point I agree with them. I personally have no intention of doing NA only events anymore. You made a mockery of the event and the NA scene, seriously, you literally hurt your own scene which is a bit funny considering you're now trying to ask Blizzard to support it more.
EPT
i was busy winning 10k that weekened sorry.
