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Like most of you, I joined TL at the tailend of the Broodwars era and at the beginning of the SC2 explosion. I was not keenly interested in Broodwars because I knew about the game through SC2, which is also the only version I play.
However, my curiosity led me to watch a few Broodwars games and know about its history and champions. One things struck me! Flash. He was unstoppable. He was superb. He was god. Many people (haters) credit it to his race, the Terran, which they say was responsible for most of the bonjwas (I dont know how to translate this, but looking at the history, this is used to refer to players who are dominant). But the more I watch Flash, the more I realize it is not the race, but really his style of play. He is a perfectionist. His actions are precise. He uses his tanks as an impenetrable wall. He knows how to mindgame his enemies, attacking in most creative and unexpected ways. I don't recall exactly, but I remember it is almost a thing of lore among Broodwars fans that Flash played one game building hundreds of turrets just to nullify an enemy. He will also not hesitate to be cautious and defend with a battery of tanks until he is ready to move out, all for the slightest advantage. He is creative and bold.
Now, this is the reason why Flash has so far failed to succeed in SC2. His style of play simply does not allow it. Terran is not exactly the strong defense-heavy race that it was in Broodwars. It is now weaker but with a lot more options. What hinders Flash now is the race's inability to be defensive when necessary, like Flash did with tanks and depots and Battlecruisers, and move out on strategic points to take advantage of mistakes made by the opponent. Flash cannot anymore rely on the strength of the tanks to leapfrog and strangle the enemy to death. The other races in SC2 have a lot of options to deal with this, and the general speed of SC2 itself does not permit it.
With the latest patch, If Flash played zerg, I think he would be able to optimize his skills and creativity with the Frenzy Broodlord, Ultralisk, and of course, the Swarm Host. I think zerg now has the features of what the terran race was in Broodwars.
Thanks for reading. I just wanted to share my thoughts on why Flash has so far struggled in SC2. I am reviewing the vods of other Broodwars players as well, and I will write about them in the future.
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I actually think Flash should play Protoss.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:25 electronic voyeur wrote:
Like most of you, I joined TL at the tailend of the Broodwars era and at the beginning of the SC2 explosion. I was not keenly interested in Broodwars because I knew about the game through SC2, which is also the only version I play.
However, my curiosity led me to watch a few Broodwars games and know about its history and champions. One things struck me! Flash. He was unstoppable. He was superb. He was god. Many people (haters) credit it to his race, the Terran, which they say was responsible for most of the bonjwas (I dont know how to translate this, but looking at the history, this is used to refer to players who are dominant). But the more I watch Flash, the more I realize it is not the race, but really his style of play. He is a perfectionist. His actions are precise. He uses his tanks as an impenetrable wall. He knows how to mindgame his enemies, attacking in most creative and unexpected ways. I don't recall exactly, but I remember it is almost a thing of lore among Broodwars fans that Flash played one game building hundreds of turrets just to nullify an enemy. He will also not hesitate to be cautious and defend with a battery of tanks until he is ready to move out, all for the slightest advantage. He is creative and bold.
Now, this is the reason why Flash has so far failed to succeed in SC2. His style of play simply does not allow it. Terran is not exactly the strong defense-heavy race that it was in Broodwars. It is now weaker but with a lot more options. What hinders Flash now is the race's inability to be defensive when necessary, like Flash did with tanks and depots and Battlecruisers, and move out on strategic points to take advantage of mistakes made by the opponent. Flash cannot anymore rely on the strength of the tanks to leapfrog and strangle the enemy to death. The other races in SC2 have a lot of options to deal with this, and the general speed of SC2 itself does not permit it.
With the latest patch, If Flash played zerg, I think he would be able to optimize his skills and creativity with the Frenzy Broodlord, Ultralisk, and of course, the Swarm Host. I think zerg now has the features of what the terran race was in Broodwars.
Thanks for reading. I just wanted to share my thoughts on why Flash has so far struggled in SC2. I am reviewing the vods of other Broodwars players as well, and I will write about them in the future.
Well, at least Flash was one of the best in the world in sc2 playing Terran. + maps in BW/SC2 are quite different. Flashu will have his opportunities, one day it might happen and he will reclaim his throne.
Sadly or not, Bisu hadn't switched to Terran and rejected becoming a God.
On May 29 2014 08:29 DinoMight wrote:
I actually think Flash should play Protoss.
It's same to Bisu. Bisu should have played Terran in SC2 and Flash - Protoss. But they simply can't because their auras are with those races, races which they made look godlike at some point.
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The consensus is that Flash would have much better results had he played Protoss due to his style and the mechanics of the race.
But, if he can be so good at one style of play, why couldn't he be good at a different style, say the Polt style? Maybe he's stubborn and doesn't want to change his style, or maybe he isn't good at different styles
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If Flash played Zerg he'd actually have proper siege tanks in the swarm host.
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Everyone has their own style of play, and not anyone can just switch to a different style.
Just look at MarineKing... amazing micro AND macro (yes macro) but the worst decision making I've ever seen. You can't just ask him to play like Rain... it's just not something he can do lol.
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To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
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flash said in the past that he regreted not switching to protoss.
but to be honest he is still doing really well in proleauge so I dont know why this "the race he plays doesn't fit his style" comes from.
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Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1.
And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release.
Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu.
On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw.
It's too ignorant.
I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans.
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On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans.
Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling
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I am sorry, but it just bugs me. its Brood War not Broodwars. 
Also Flash will succeed eventually, his work ethic is exceptional. He might not reach Bonjwa status, I just cant imagine he wouldn't win something eventually.
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On May 29 2014 08:58 skylarr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans. Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling
I don't know if anyone would consider him a great player. He does well in proleague but that is pretty much it. Is he really consistently making ro16 in code s? I couldn't find a good way to figure it out, but I feel like he hasn't been in a little
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:20 plasemeious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 08:58 skylarr wrote:On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans. Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling I don't know if anyone would consider him a great player. He does well in proleague but that is pretty much it. Is he really consistently making ro16 in code s? I couldn't find a good way to figure it out, but I feel like he hasn't been in a little
He's not doing well in Proleague, he's literally carried KT Rolster to unbelievable 3rd position last Proleague when they were projected as way lower + he's carrying them right now, while TY is slumping again, Zest is busy winning in Code S and so on.
And about consistently making Ro16 in Code S.
Who is making it consistently for last seasons? soO, PartinG, Soulkey and Rain? They're top dogs but if we have 4 great players in the world, things are getting weird.
+ Flashu is arguably top-5 if not top-3 Terran in the world right now. It's a shame, that he got Shine in Code A, one day this guy will pay for his sins, l0l.
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On May 29 2014 10:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:20 plasemeious wrote:On May 29 2014 08:58 skylarr wrote:On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans. Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling I don't know if anyone would consider him a great player. He does well in proleague but that is pretty much it. Is he really consistently making ro16 in code s? I couldn't find a good way to figure it out, but I feel like he hasn't been in a little He's not doing well in Proleague, he's literally carried KT Rolster to unbelievable 3rd position last Proleague when they were projected as way lower + he's carrying them right now, while TY is slumping again, Zest is busy winning in Code S and so on. And about consistently making Ro16 in Code S. Who is making it consistently for last seasons? soO, PartinG, Soulkey and Rain? They're top dogs but if we have 4 great players in the world, things are getting weird. + Flashu is arguably top-5 if not top-3 Terran in the world right now. It's a shame, that he got Shine in Code A, one day this guy will pay for his sins, l0l.
TY isn't slumping, you kidding me? People these days have ridiculous "slump radars" now, it's literally "he lost the last match or two, therefore he's 70% worst than he was the week before". Holy Christ.
And Flash is #3 this PL.. how is that not good?
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Remember reading elsewhere that Flash fits the style of a Protoss or a Zerg more, Jaedong a Protoss and Bisu a Terran in SC2 but for race and BW loyalty's sake stuck with their BW races. As for Flash and Jaedong I think the two are still solid players and can easily rank in the top 10 of their respective races but still need some adjustment or a mental block removed. Perhaps it is still too early to decide whether they should remain their races or if they need a change to truly succeed and possibly reach their BW-levels but I think they still are fine.
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On May 29 2014 10:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:20 plasemeious wrote:On May 29 2014 08:58 skylarr wrote:On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans. Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling I don't know if anyone would consider him a great player. He does well in proleague but that is pretty much it. Is he really consistently making ro16 in code s? I couldn't find a good way to figure it out, but I feel like he hasn't been in a little He's not doing well in Proleague, he's literally carried KT Rolster to unbelievable 3rd position last Proleague when they were projected as way lower + he's carrying them right now, while TY is slumping again, Zest is busy winning in Code S and so on. And about consistently making Ro16 in Code S. Who is making it consistently for last seasons? soO, PartinG, Soulkey and Rain? They're top dogs but if we have 4 great players in the world, things are getting weird. + Flashu is arguably top-5 if not top-3 Terran in the world right now. It's a shame, that he got Shine in Code A, one day this guy will pay for his sins, l0l.
Regardless of what you want to call it I was not disputing that. He has been in Code S 2/5 last seasons. Who has made it consistently or at least greater than 40% of the time? Life,Symbol,Curious,Leenock, Bomber,GuMiho,Squirtle,PartinG, RorO,KeeN, Soulkey, DongRaeGu, INnoVation, soO,Rain, hero and quite possibly others. Did he also bomb out a few foreign tournaments?
Why are you calling him Flashu?
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On May 29 2014 10:55 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Remember reading elsewhere that Flash fits the style of a Protoss or a Zerg more, Jaedong a Protoss and Bisu a Terran in SC2 but for race and BW loyalty's sake stuck with their BW races. As for Flash and Jaedong I think the two are still solid players and can easily rank in the top 10 of their respective races but still need some adjustment or a mental block removed. Perhaps it is still too early to decide whether they should remain their races or if they need a change to truly succeed and possibly reach their BW-levels but I think they still are fine.
I don't think Jaedong needs any help playing Zerg. He's been doing fine.
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I don't think he'd be very good with Zerg at all, in fact he'd probably be worse off with it than with Terran. His macro is probably still the best in sc2, but Zerg also calls for a lot of reactionary play that stems from good decisions and proper scouting. As many know, that's probably Flash's weakest attribute by far in sc2. Which is far different from how he was in BW.
I'm with the majority that he'd make a good protoss. He's really strong if he's able to macro into the later stages.
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On May 29 2014 10:54 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 10:20 plasemeious wrote:On May 29 2014 08:58 skylarr wrote:On May 29 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On May 29 2014 08:37 skylarr wrote:
To be honest I think the format of tournaments and event contribute to Flash's "struggles". In BW, the only games he played were televised, OSL, MSL, and proleague. These matches lets you prepare for a specific opponent days before hand. Flash is a smart player and plans accordingly depending on his opponents. However in SC2, tournaments outside of GSL and proleague are quick, almost pick-up games where you play many opponents in one day... which isn't what Flash is used to for 7+ years. If you look at his results in proleague and GSL, he is one of the top players in proleague and his GSL record is decent. I don't think Flash is "falling off" of any sort, it's nothing more than just the format of tournaments that favours flash's playstyle.
Well, when you can't hit more than Ro16 in GSL being BW God, you know that you're probably doing something wrong, considering that Flash carried half-dead KT Rolster last season in hybrid Proleague and he's keeping doing it now while his lieutenant-Code S champion aren't bored by winning anywhere but playoffs finals against SKT T1. And it's not like Flash is playing tons of foreign tournaments. But well, dropping there in early rounds isn't good as well and it's what happened after HotS release. Look at Stork though. Flash at least had his moments of success in SC2 and Stork was struggling for almost 3 years until he started winning now. So, nothing is lost for Flashu. On May 29 2014 08:49 TaShadan wrote:
Flash does not love sc2 like he loved bw. He just plays it because he gets the money. Thats why he is not as strong as in bw. It's too ignorant. I'm not a Flash fan, but fans just love him, listen to crowd in SPL when Lee Young Ho is sitting in the booth. And those BW legends appreciate their fans. Theres also an unnecessary stigma that Flash must be a Bonjwa in SC2. Had he been a new player that no one knew about, he would be a "great player". But because he is Flash, no one appreciates how he can consistently place ro16. Again, SC2 is a different day and game than bw, give it some time before judging his SC2 skillsets. I didn't say Flash was the same person he was in BW, but he's certainly isn't struggling I don't know if anyone would consider him a great player. He does well in proleague but that is pretty much it. Is he really consistently making ro16 in code s? I couldn't find a good way to figure it out, but I feel like he hasn't been in a little He's not doing well in Proleague, he's literally carried KT Rolster to unbelievable 3rd position last Proleague when they were projected as way lower + he's carrying them right now, while TY is slumping again, Zest is busy winning in Code S and so on. And about consistently making Ro16 in Code S. Who is making it consistently for last seasons? soO, PartinG, Soulkey and Rain? They're top dogs but if we have 4 great players in the world, things are getting weird. + Flashu is arguably top-5 if not top-3 Terran in the world right now. It's a shame, that he got Shine in Code A, one day this guy will pay for his sins, l0l. TY isn't slumping, you kidding me? People these days have ridiculous "slump radars" now, it's literally "he lost the last match or two, therefore he's 70% worst than he was the week before". Holy Christ. And Flash is #3 this PL.. how is that not good?
Proleague is not WCS and individual tournament success. Flash hasn't won anything in SC2.
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