• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:23
CEST 17:23
KST 00:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed12Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft in widescreen A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Segway man no more. Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 727 users

ESGN in financial difficulties?

Forum Index > SC2 General
110 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 21:55 GMT
#1
Was browsing Twitter when I found an article from OnGamers, linked by TLO concerning ESGN not paying it's staff.

Article can be found here: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/esgn-having-financial-difficulties-unable-to-pay-employees/1100-1581/

To sum up briefly, it seems like they burnt through their clauf money and now can't afford to pay their staff who are considering strike action. The article also says that some casters and players weren't paid their winnings as well company restructures and redundancies.

Also a brief mention of some staff not even being on a contract. Seems to be quite the mess they've landed themselves in.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
InFluenza
Profile Joined January 2014
Netherlands55 Posts
May 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#2
I'm not surprised. They got top quality players on all the games they broadcasted but got very few viewers. I didn't like their format either. Watching it felt very slow... if you know what I mean.
Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders?
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:00:10
May 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#3
i wish i could say i was surprised at this point... it's ex-azubu people from Clauf running the show at ESGN, this combined with really extravagant production + low viewership no matter what game they're broadcasting and i'm not surprised at all that this happened.


it's worse because these are livelihoods that these guys are fucking over by leaving staff members high and dry, but Clauf knew about it.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
May 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#4
DONT WORRY GUYS, SANTA CLAUF IS GONNA FIX THIS!
#CLAUFKINGDOM
TL+ Member
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14458 Posts
May 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#5
What a surprise.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#6
this sucks i really loved their stuff. it was more relaxed and fun. and frodan t.t
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 28 2014 22:04 GMT
#7
I can't believe that the employees didn't sign any contracts. I mean, isn't it the first time you do when you get a job ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
May 28 2014 22:06 GMT
#8
Can't believe I almost got a job there, they promised to play a lot for news writing. Would've looked like a sucker now though. Tough for the people who moved there for the job and the unpaid staff in general, hope they justice prevails.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 28 2014 22:06 GMT
#9
wow I'm shocked
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 22:07 GMT
#10
On May 29 2014 07:04 Boucot wrote:
I can't believe that the employees didn't sign any contracts. I mean, isn't it the first time you do when you get a job ?


According to article they were operating under good faith that contracts would arrive after the company restructure, probably wasn't the smartest idea in hindsight.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 28 2014 22:08 GMT
#11
On May 29 2014 07:00 Paljas wrote:
DONT WORRY GUYS, SANTA CLAUF IS GONNA FIX THIS!
#CLAUFKINGDOM

AZUBU relegated to paying LoL teams to stream, clauf's ESGN is deader than SC2 what next vague assemblage of letters mysteriously putting a fuck ton of money into esports backed by sapinda is next? Usetu?
Glorious SEA doto
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#12
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 28 2014 22:10 GMT
#13
Haha not unexpected at all. Sorry to the staff who creates good content but gets shafted
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 28 2014 22:11 GMT
#14
On May 29 2014 07:09 Conti wrote:
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?

Not they're backed by clauf, a mysterious company that has recieved a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly zero ability to return profit. They're nothing like azubu a mysterious company that has received a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly no ability to return profit.
Glorious SEA doto
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 22:12 GMT
#15
Oh boy, remember when people were thinking NASL screwed up big time in the money department, well, we have this now:

It is estimated by insiders that the company will run at a €1.5 million loss in its first year of operations.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
May 28 2014 22:13 GMT
#16
Is anyone really surprised? They had around 200-300 viewers at the most whenever I watched
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 28 2014 22:15 GMT
#17
On May 29 2014 07:06 Shellshock wrote:
wow I'm shocked


Are you shellshocked?
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 28 2014 22:16 GMT
#18
On May 29 2014 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:09 Conti wrote:
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?

Not they're backed by clauf, a mysterious company that has recieved a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly zero ability to return profit. They're nothing like azubu a mysterious company that has received a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly no ability to return profit.

They're just as shady, yeah, but I remember reading that they have literally the same people behind the scenes. Some German dude and a few shady Koreans.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:19:49
May 28 2014 22:18 GMT
#19
I wonder how Torte is doing? He seemed pretty adamant that Clauf was totally not like Azubu. Then again, he did get hired by them so he's probably fucked too.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 28 2014 22:28 GMT
#20
I love t he question mark :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mcanning 244
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 1609
Sea 1324
Larva 700
Stork 545
Zeus 331
Barracks 189
ToSsGirL 97
Rush 60
Dewaltoss 58
sSak 55
[ Show more ]
Shinee 50
Aegong 42
JulyZerg 27
Shine 25
Rock 24
GoRush 23
scan(afreeca) 21
IntoTheRainbow 14
Terrorterran 14
Bale 14
SilentControl 6
Hm[arnc] 6
ivOry 3
Stormgate
NightEnD20
Dota 2
Gorgc8491
singsing3014
qojqva2532
syndereN257
Counter-Strike
sgares389
flusha321
markeloff55
kRYSTAL_39
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Other Games
B2W.Neo1569
FrodaN1414
hiko1027
Hui .269
mouzStarbuck242
RotterdaM211
KnowMe113
ArmadaUGS80
Trikslyr60
QueenE49
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3489
BasetradeTV12
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 32
• Hinosc 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1078
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
37m
The PondCast
18h 37m
OSC
21h 37m
WardiTV European League
1d
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Epic.LAN
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
CSO Contender
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
5 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.