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ESGN in financial difficulties?

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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 21:55 GMT
#1
Was browsing Twitter when I found an article from OnGamers, linked by TLO concerning ESGN not paying it's staff.

Article can be found here: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/esgn-having-financial-difficulties-unable-to-pay-employees/1100-1581/

To sum up briefly, it seems like they burnt through their clauf money and now can't afford to pay their staff who are considering strike action. The article also says that some casters and players weren't paid their winnings as well company restructures and redundancies.

Also a brief mention of some staff not even being on a contract. Seems to be quite the mess they've landed themselves in.
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InFluenza
Profile Joined January 2014
Netherlands55 Posts
May 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#2
I'm not surprised. They got top quality players on all the games they broadcasted but got very few viewers. I didn't like their format either. Watching it felt very slow... if you know what I mean.
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:00:10
May 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#3
i wish i could say i was surprised at this point... it's ex-azubu people from Clauf running the show at ESGN, this combined with really extravagant production + low viewership no matter what game they're broadcasting and i'm not surprised at all that this happened.


it's worse because these are livelihoods that these guys are fucking over by leaving staff members high and dry, but Clauf knew about it.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
May 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#4
DONT WORRY GUYS, SANTA CLAUF IS GONNA FIX THIS!
#CLAUFKINGDOM
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
May 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#5
What a surprise.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#6
this sucks i really loved their stuff. it was more relaxed and fun. and frodan t.t
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 28 2014 22:04 GMT
#7
I can't believe that the employees didn't sign any contracts. I mean, isn't it the first time you do when you get a job ?
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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
May 28 2014 22:06 GMT
#8
Can't believe I almost got a job there, they promised to play a lot for news writing. Would've looked like a sucker now though. Tough for the people who moved there for the job and the unpaid staff in general, hope they justice prevails.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 28 2014 22:06 GMT
#9
wow I'm shocked
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 22:07 GMT
#10
On May 29 2014 07:04 Boucot wrote:
I can't believe that the employees didn't sign any contracts. I mean, isn't it the first time you do when you get a job ?


According to article they were operating under good faith that contracts would arrive after the company restructure, probably wasn't the smartest idea in hindsight.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 28 2014 22:08 GMT
#11
On May 29 2014 07:00 Paljas wrote:
DONT WORRY GUYS, SANTA CLAUF IS GONNA FIX THIS!
#CLAUFKINGDOM

AZUBU relegated to paying LoL teams to stream, clauf's ESGN is deader than SC2 what next vague assemblage of letters mysteriously putting a fuck ton of money into esports backed by sapinda is next? Usetu?
Glorious SEA doto
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#12
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 28 2014 22:10 GMT
#13
Haha not unexpected at all. Sorry to the staff who creates good content but gets shafted
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 28 2014 22:11 GMT
#14
On May 29 2014 07:09 Conti wrote:
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?

Not they're backed by clauf, a mysterious company that has recieved a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly zero ability to return profit. They're nothing like azubu a mysterious company that has received a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly no ability to return profit.
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 28 2014 22:12 GMT
#15
Oh boy, remember when people were thinking NASL screwed up big time in the money department, well, we have this now:

It is estimated by insiders that the company will run at a €1.5 million loss in its first year of operations.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
May 28 2014 22:13 GMT
#16
Is anyone really surprised? They had around 200-300 viewers at the most whenever I watched
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 28 2014 22:15 GMT
#17
On May 29 2014 07:06 Shellshock wrote:
wow I'm shocked


Are you shellshocked?
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 28 2014 22:16 GMT
#18
On May 29 2014 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:09 Conti wrote:
Weren't the guys behind ESGN basically the same guys that were behind Azubu?

Not they're backed by clauf, a mysterious company that has recieved a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly zero ability to return profit. They're nothing like azubu a mysterious company that has received a fuck ton of money from sapinda to invest into esports that is put into projects with seemingly no ability to return profit.

They're just as shady, yeah, but I remember reading that they have literally the same people behind the scenes. Some German dude and a few shady Koreans.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:19:49
May 28 2014 22:18 GMT
#19
I wonder how Torte is doing? He seemed pretty adamant that Clauf was totally not like Azubu. Then again, he did get hired by them so he's probably fucked too.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
May 28 2014 22:28 GMT
#20
I love t he question mark :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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