Haha, this isn't meant as an aggressive comment or anything... but that AZUBU thumbnail on your account is funny after reading your post. Just wanted to point out the irony.

The team flair is supposed to be ironic.

marcesr

Germany1383 Posts

May 28 2014 23:12 GMT

#42

Guys...this is just the standard in esports.

ESL (the oldest and most famous league around) operates on 0.5 - 2 millions loss each year.
(Revenue being about 10 millions)

ClairvoyanceSC2

United States758 Posts

May 28 2014 23:13 GMT

#43

I wish they got more viewership. It would've definitely given them some more $$$ and publicity. They host such great hearthstone, sc2 etc streams but no one really tunes in.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 28 2014 23:14 GMT

#44

Poor Torte/Snowbird/Frodan/etc... then again, all the signs were there, it's hard to feel all that sorry for them.

Shana

Indonesia1814 Posts

May 28 2014 23:15 GMT

#45

Hope Torte is fine. I remember his blog when he first move in to esgn office in german.

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

May 28 2014 23:27 GMT

#46

Shocking.. not. Constantly flying people back and forth to Germany is gonna drain you quite fast I imagine.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 28 2014 23:30 GMT

#47

I can't describe how shocked I am. Not at all.

Remember folks, do not take jobs without contracts.

Integra

Sweden5626 Posts

May 28 2014 23:35 GMT

#48

I didn't even know who ESGN was or what they did until I read this thread.

Jedclark

United Kingdom903 Posts

May 28 2014 23:42 GMT

#49

I'm not surprised. They have such a high quality production, studio and do a lot of broadcasts; then they pull in relatively low viewing figures. I was wondering how they were making any profit.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

May 28 2014 23:45 GMT

#50

On May 29 2014 06:55 KatatoniK wrote:
Was browsing Twitter when I found an article from OnGamers, linked by TLO concerning ESGN not paying it's staff.

Article can be found here: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/esgn-having-financial-difficulties-unable-to-pay-employees/1100-1581/

To sum up briefly, it seems like they burnt through their clauf money and now can't afford to pay their staff who are considering strike action. The article also says that some casters and players weren't paid their winnings as well company restructures and redundancies.

Also a brief mention of some staff not even being on a contract. Seems to be quite the mess they've landed themselves in.

They brought it on themselves if they plan on working for such people. No offense but certain companies/organizations should have been weeded out a long time ago.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

May 28 2014 23:46 GMT

#51

On May 29 2014 08:30 Plansix wrote:
I can't describe how shocked I am. Not at all.

Remember folks, do not take jobs without contracts.

More like do not take jobs with sketchy companies period. A contract is one thing, but your ability to sue and get any kind of return is another at the same time.

imre

France9263 Posts

May 29 2014 00:00 GMT

#52

On May 29 2014 08:46 StarStruck wrote:

Show nested quote +

More like do not take jobs with sketchy companies period. A contract is one thing, but your ability to sue and get any kind of return is another at the same time.

there is always the possiblity to get some cash/xp and leave the boat before it sunk but it went down so freaking fast here :o

Niko_Thien

Germany2671 Posts

May 29 2014 00:16 GMT

#53

Getting a studio in freaking Babelsberg for a half an hour news show plus the occasional extra content aka their fight night didn''t work out? Who could think that that would be the case...

Orcasgt24

Canada3238 Posts

May 29 2014 00:21 GMT

#54

I would never take a job in any esports business. Too common that they crash and seems like getting paid regularly is actually hard to achieve

zev318

Canada4306 Posts

May 29 2014 00:26 GMT

#55

On May 29 2014 09:21 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I would never take a job in any esports business. Too common that they crash and seems like getting paid regularly is actually hard to achieve

only true if its a brand new start up. if EG had a job opening, i wouldnt think oh this shit is not real cause they've been in the business for a long time

btw these start up are especially bad because they are basically preying on people who want to work in their "dream industry" and basically would do anything to be in it. and because of that, these scumbags can do shit like oh we'll do a contract later, u can just work for free until then

ShambhalaWar

United States930 Posts

May 29 2014 00:38 GMT

#56

D: You think the school girls got payed?

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

May 29 2014 01:01 GMT

#57

I'm not surprised, sadly. I wouldn't be surprised with ANY esports start-up getting into financial trouble to be honest, but the party they held to kick off the launch seemed... a bit presumptuous.

qotsager

Germany585 Posts

May 29 2014 01:09 GMT

#58

that went well. i didnt watch most of their stuff cause of clauf. and well, these few small videos they shot as commercials in the beginning were pretty dumb. unlike NASL, this doesn't make me feel anything. i'm pretty sad for the people that went there, hoping to find a stable job i guess... frodan needs to come back to the US with a lot of clauf money and revive nasl now.
the only logical consequence from this.