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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24660 Posts
May 08 2014 21:51 GMT
#141
On May 09 2014 06:46 MattMannion wrote:
barcodes are fine. if you don't like it thats your problem, not blizzard's.

'I don't think it's an issue, so other people can't'. Fantastic posting. I shall go around and follow your example in other threads.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 22:12:42
May 08 2014 22:06 GMT
#142
On May 09 2014 06:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:46 MattMannion wrote:
barcodes are fine. if you don't like it thats your problem, not blizzard's.

'I don't think it's an issue, so other people can't'. Fantastic posting. I shall go around and follow your example in other threads.

you should, it doesn't affect the experience when laddering or anything. just do you, why does it matter if they have a barcode as their name. if they like it then let them like it. just because my opinion doesn't line up with yours doesn't make me a bad poster.
www.twitch.tv/mattmanni0n master terran and sometimes zerg :)
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
May 08 2014 22:11 GMT
#143
I agree. Imho there aren't problems with barcodes. It's only a name, nothing else.
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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
May 09 2014 00:06 GMT
#144
Sorry Op, you can't control people nor should you. If players want a generic anonymous name on the internet they have every right to do so. How dare anyone try to control another, unless the name is offense of course. These threads IMO are bit silly when they pop up.

I think people have deeper psychological problems if a anonymous barcode name makes you angry, or you feel its "obnoxious" I think you need to look up what that word means op, simply wanting to be anonymous is not obnoxious at all.
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1138 Posts
May 09 2014 00:11 GMT
#145
Incidentally, does anybody know the top 5 on Korean GM right now?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 00:22:58
May 09 2014 00:22 GMT
#146
On May 09 2014 06:36 Wombat_NI wrote:
Yes, that's what's happening in this thread. It's more of a HANDS OFF OUR SACRED BARCODES and aggressive posting from those who disagree with the OP, those who like the idea he put forward are pretty relaxed about the whole thing.

It's just, STUPID. It's nothing game-breaking, it's no big deal to have a bunch of ||||||||| instead of 'Blazeit420's' on ladder, but you know what, hey I think barcodes just look stupid, I think seeing barcodes in my Platinum league looks stupid. Big deal, it doesn't even particularly bother me, if there's a better system I show agreement with a system I view as better, namely the OPs


It's one of the most bizarre situations I've seen in the forum in months. I can't understand it. It's like people (who probably don't even use barcodes) are being suggested to have their testicles removed - so they come straight in with their sword drawn and unable to read the 30 odd posts before theirs that respond to their "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" post before they make it.

On May 09 2014 05:05 Kabras wrote:
standard american internet police. barcodes are annoying to you, i fucking love them. imma go start a counter thread to encourage people to use barcodes. holy shit, this is the reason sc2 is in the state that it's in, everyone cares about everything else about it but playing the game.


The irony that you think SC2 is in a bad state because people are offering constructive discussion about a possible way to improve the game, whilst you come here with your close-minded and antagonizing mentality is comical.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 01:01:54
May 09 2014 00:58 GMT
#147
I still don't understand the main issue. I'm well aware that pros use barcodes to hide their identities and builds etc... but I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal. The OP makes a good point about the two options but I think there are more pressing issues that are important to SCII's future(like game balance for ex) then whether pros should use barcodes or not lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 01:19:07
May 09 2014 01:17 GMT
#148
I know the title is a bit misleading, but holy shit some people don't read.

We aren't arguing that people shouldn't be allowed to have a fucking barcode name.

We are just saying we would like to give pro players an easier (and cheaper) means to hide their identity during ladder matches, but still have their god damn mother fucking name seen on rankings.

How fucking hard is it to understand?

And Lightspectre, I don't know who is top 5 KR GM, but chances are one of them is barcode.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 09 2014 01:56 GMT
#149
How bout OP quotes that post and posts it boldface above the original? Maybe it'll catch someone's eye
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
May 09 2014 03:17 GMT
#150
It seems the majority of people don't understand the issue here.. it's just about showing the name of the player in the rankings, nothing more... and that would just be nice to see and know!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24660 Posts
May 09 2014 10:51 GMT
#151
On May 09 2014 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How bout OP quotes that post and posts it boldface above the original? Maybe it'll catch someone's eye

People should be getting warned for blatantly not reading the OP never mind any part of the thread.

Like I said, it's not a big deal, can it be done better? I'd say yes is all. Go look at the Kr ladder, it's hard to spot any recognisable names on there. Pros are just protecting their practice and barcoding is the best solution for them, but if they could keep their IDs and have their match history and ID in-game hidden I imagine they'd be happy going for that, with the small added bonus that the fans can actually keep track of who is tearing it up on ladder

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
May 09 2014 11:48 GMT
#152
On May 09 2014 03:48 GiveMeCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 02:55 Dingodile wrote:
On May 09 2014 02:48 GiveMeCake wrote:
I don't agree with giving players the option to disable match history, to me that is worse than seeing a barcode. You could have a player doing 2 gate proxies every game, cannon rushing, 5 raxing, 10 pooling, smurfing etc...

Why do you have to know so much about your opponent? Is there a reason? I truly dont care about my and my opponent's history. History just gives too much (useful for progamers) infos, that's why we have so much barcode players.


I play in a scv rush tournament once a week. I usually look at my opponents match history (game length, build orders, etc,) for a few minutes before starting the match, as do the other players there... so yes it can matter.

And this is reasonable?
How about other situation: You dont play against him but you can see his/her match history. I am sure that many many people are looking (abnormally) the histories from GM players, that why we need a option to disable match history.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28464 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 11:56:15
May 09 2014 11:55 GMT
#153
Edit: wrong thread
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Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
May 09 2014 12:15 GMT
#154
Wow, this sure has turned into a pretty heated discussion, lol. Anyways. . .
I appreciate your input and your solution works for the problem you have described. However, the situation at hand isn't viewed negatively by most players. Most players, me included, really don't care who we're #facemelting on ladder. We have begged for more stats and more player info for years. We like being able to look up build orders and match history. It's give and take. They gave us a name change every season so ppl could just hide themselves anyway they please. I think things have came a long way and I'm pretty satisfied with the system in place.
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MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
May 09 2014 14:54 GMT
#155
On May 09 2014 19:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How bout OP quotes that post and posts it boldface above the original? Maybe it'll catch someone's eye

People should be getting warned for blatantly not reading the OP never mind any part of the thread.

Like I said, it's not a big deal, can it be done better? I'd say yes is all. Go look at the Kr ladder, it's hard to spot any recognisable names on there. Pros are just protecting their practice and barcoding is the best solution for them, but if they could keep their IDs and have their match history and ID in-game hidden I imagine they'd be happy going for that, with the small added bonus that the fans can actually keep track of who is tearing it up on ladder


they'll just resort to an alias of somekind or do "anonymous". the reason why they hide their names is because people meta game on the ladder, and will blind counter someones strategy when they recognize their name. i mean this happens to me just on the NA master ladder as it is. what do you have to say about that?
www.twitch.tv/mattmanni0n master terran and sometimes zerg :)
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
May 09 2014 15:46 GMT
#156
On May 09 2014 23:54 MattMannion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 19:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 09 2014 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How bout OP quotes that post and posts it boldface above the original? Maybe it'll catch someone's eye

People should be getting warned for blatantly not reading the OP never mind any part of the thread.

Like I said, it's not a big deal, can it be done better? I'd say yes is all. Go look at the Kr ladder, it's hard to spot any recognisable names on there. Pros are just protecting their practice and barcoding is the best solution for them, but if they could keep their IDs and have their match history and ID in-game hidden I imagine they'd be happy going for that, with the small added bonus that the fans can actually keep track of who is tearing it up on ladder


they'll just resort to an alias of somekind or do "anonymous". the reason why they hide their names is because people meta game on the ladder, and will blind counter someones strategy when they recognize their name. i mean this happens to me just on the NA master ladder as it is. what do you have to say about that?

I'd say read the post again... You really don't seem to understand what is being proposed. His new privacy options would eliminate the need for progamers to use an alias to hide their identity, as there would be an inherent option within the settings to do so. Of course individuals would still be free to use an alias if they wanted to, but such a system would be redundant in what is being proposed.
ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
May 09 2014 16:23 GMT
#157
it would be cool to hide their names until the end of the season. Then when the season ends it shows their actual names or something so we all know whos tearing shit up.
http://www.twitch.tv/brutatron
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 16:43:27
May 09 2014 16:43 GMT
#158
On May 07 2014 12:32 Umami wrote:
Yeah barcodes are rather annoying. I feel like only good players (High master and grandmaster) should really be the only ones using barcodes.


To be honest I think you only need to barcode if you're a proplayer.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 09 2014 17:08 GMT
#159
Ladder rankings are generally not very relevant at the pro level - which is why we see all kinds of username shenanigans on ladder. But if they become relevant - like, when they matter for qualifying for a Blizzard tournament (let's suppose), then it would be funny if the organizers feel obliged to list the qualified players by their ladder name and the list contains a bunch of barcodes. I guess only in such situation Blizzard would be forced to do something about it. Of course, they would probably just not list them by their actual ladder names (barcodes), but by the names they are more famous with. Which would be a damn shame.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
May 09 2014 19:39 GMT
#160
On May 10 2014 00:46 jiabung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 23:54 MattMannion wrote:
On May 09 2014 19:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 09 2014 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How bout OP quotes that post and posts it boldface above the original? Maybe it'll catch someone's eye

People should be getting warned for blatantly not reading the OP never mind any part of the thread.

Like I said, it's not a big deal, can it be done better? I'd say yes is all. Go look at the Kr ladder, it's hard to spot any recognisable names on there. Pros are just protecting their practice and barcoding is the best solution for them, but if they could keep their IDs and have their match history and ID in-game hidden I imagine they'd be happy going for that, with the small added bonus that the fans can actually keep track of who is tearing it up on ladder


they'll just resort to an alias of somekind or do "anonymous". the reason why they hide their names is because people meta game on the ladder, and will blind counter someones strategy when they recognize their name. i mean this happens to me just on the NA master ladder as it is. what do you have to say about that?

I'd say read the post again... You really don't seem to understand what is being proposed. His new privacy options would eliminate the need for progamers to use an alias to hide their identity, as there would be an inherent option within the settings to do so. Of course individuals would still be free to use an alias if they wanted to, but such a system would be redundant in what is being proposed.

no i get it, my response was to the person i quoted.
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