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Code S - Ro32 Group A Preview (Season 2)

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Code S - Ro32 Group A Preview (Season 2)

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April 30th, 2014 00:16 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

GSL Season Two
Code S



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Code S Season 2: Opening Day

Ro32 Group A: (P)Zest, (P)TAiLS, (Z)Dark, (T)Bbyong

by Waxangel

In accordance with GSL tradition, it falls upon defending champion (P)KT_Zest to kick off the new season of Code S. There's no doubt that Zest is on top of the world right now, having won Code S and the GSL Global Tournament consecutively. The Ro32 draw for this season of Code S resulted in very even groups across the board, but Zest has lucked out with a relatively easy draw. None of (P)TAiLS, (Z)Dark, or (T)Bbyong have any individual league results really worth talking about, and they should be easy pickings for the champ.

At least, that's what we should be thinking. In reality, we're still dealing with the spectre of (P)Dear that still lingers over the GSL. The former mousesports Protoss looked utterly invincible when he took back to back WCS championships in October of 2013, but his month of glory has now become almost completely overshadowed by his abrupt fall from grace. Within six months, Dear fell out of Code S and down to Code B, looking like a shell of the player he once was. Dear isn't the only victim of the Code S champion's curse – we've seen the suffering of Seed, Sniper, and RorO as well. So with all apologies to the reigning Code S champion and the best player in the world, we're a little worried about about his chances of getting out of this group.

In fact, there's upset potential from the very first match. Zest's hand-picked* first opponent (P)MVP.TAiLS has garnered much notoriety for his well-crafted all-ins and cheese builds, and it's precisely those kind of builds that got him into Code S in the first place. Despite saying he lacked practiced and didn't expect to get past his Code A group, TAiLS still managed to go 4-0 against Classic and RorO to take first place.

If Zest thinks his PvP is the best in the world, we aren't going to argue with him. He has a 70% win rate on the year, and that's with barely any win-padding against easy opponents. However, we CAN argue with the wisdom of taking a Bo3 PvP by choice. Perhaps the better player will win more often than not in a Bo7, but a Bo3 can be very volatile – especially against a player like TAiLS. The MVP Protoss may be inconsistent, but he's more than capable of throwing the outcome of this group into chaos.

The least worrisome of the potential opponents for Zest is probably (Z)Dark, the SK Telecom T1 benchwarmer who has recently started to earn Code S starts. Zest has mangled both soO and Soulkey on multiple occasions this year, so it's hard to think that he'd lose to their understudy. In fact, Zest is probably hoping that he gets the match against Dark so that he can improve his series record against SKT to 8-0 on the year. One thing Zest will have to be on guard for is Dark's aggressive, roach-hydra focused style that differs from Soulkey and soO.

(T)CJ_Bbyong could be the biggest threat to Zest in this group. If you had told us in January that Bbyong would be CJ Entus' best player in Proleague and one of the only four Terrans in Code S, we'd have called you insane. Yet, somehow, the player who has mockingly been called "the 32nd best player in Code S" has improved to become a very good player, doing it all with pretty much standard play. If his old player equivalent used to be Virus, then he's upgraded himself to Ryung at least (and we mean 2012 Ryung). A semifinal run is not out of the question if he gets the right draws.

The not-so-dirty secret behind Zest's championship runs is that he barely had to play any PvTs. And when he did have to play, he did not look especially convincing. Maru handed Zest his only defeat of his Code S run, while MMA – a player not known for his TvP – gave Zest fits in the GSL Global Tournament (Zest won 2-1).

On the other hand, Bbyong has been quietly racking up some impressive wins in TvP in Proleague, defeating players like sOs, Super, Classic, Creator, and even Zest himself. The win against Zest was pretty much a one-sided romp in Bbyong's favor, with the CJ Terran needing only a rudimentary two-prong attack to crack Zest's defenses and take the GG. Is it strange that we think a match between the two would be a 50/50 affair?

*The two finalists are allowed to pick their first opponent from the bottom eight players in GSL points.

Overall Thoughts and Prediction:

The safe money is on Zest and Bbyong advancing, but TAiLS could very easily throw a wrench into the proceedings. He already 4-0'd supposed superior players in Code A, and there's no reason he can't do it again. Bbyong, Dark, and Zest better know the proxy spots on the new maps like the backs of their hands if they don't want to be the latest upset victims. Also, props to Dark for making it to his second straight Code S. If he can beat Bbyong, he might be able to squeak by to the Ro16.

Zest > TAiLS
Bbyong > Dark
Bbyong > Zest
Dark > TAiLS
Zest > Dark

Bbyong and Zest advance.

Writers: Waxangel.
Photos: GOM eXP.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 30 2014 00:22 GMT
#2
I think Bbyong is going to get eliminated. It aint easy being TERRAN
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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 30 2014 00:25 GMT
#3
Terran power !!!!!!
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 30 2014 00:30 GMT
#4
BBYONGJWAAAAAAA


and Dark, because second-gen SlayerS power!
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 30 2014 00:30 GMT
#5
I really think Bbyong has a good chance here. Zest technically should advance as well, but Dark is really good and the injustice 3 gate has claimed many a PvP foe
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 00:37:32
April 30 2014 00:36 GMT
#6
Srsly, i can't throw idea of Zest not getting out of this group away.
Bbyong just needs to perform how he does in SPL and Dark can definitely hold his ground.

And, ofc, Dark is next in the line of SKT guys trying to revenge D:
However, there is TAiLS and when there is a TAiLS, don't try to guesss.
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
April 30 2014 00:57 GMT
#7
Zest and Dark to advance... in that order.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#8
I think Bbyong gets out, and would not be surprised to see Tails advance in the Zest rematch.
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Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
April 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#9
As much as I love zest I think bbyong definately has a solid shot at beating him. This group should be fun to watch and I could see some upsets.
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 01:10:38
April 30 2014 01:10 GMT
#10
i think bbyong will win this GSL pretty easily if maru gets eliminated in ro32. MAKE IT HAPPEN

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would be the best day ever if zest goes 0-4
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
April 30 2014 01:14 GMT
#11
a GSL and the Global Championship was enough. Time for Zest to pay his debt.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
April 30 2014 01:27 GMT
#12
Zest definitely.
Other 3 is close. I think Dark is better than people credit him for.
But I'll also finally admit that Bbyong is a very good player.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 30 2014 01:34 GMT
#13
Code A is a place where Tails can be silly, Code S is a place where Tails should get rekt. I could see Bbyong/Dark pulling the upset but I am gonna guess Zest/Bbyong.
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WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
April 30 2014 01:43 GMT
#14
Why is everyone doubting zest?
People have been doubting him for the past three months. And they have am been completely wrong.
Two major tournament victories in a row? "oh, this Proleague bench warmer is gonna be a challenge" please...
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 02:04:37
April 30 2014 02:04 GMT
#15
On April 30 2014 10:43 WiggyB wrote:
Why is everyone doubting zest?
People have been doubting him for the past three months. And they have am been completely wrong.
Two major tournament victories in a row? "oh, this Proleague bench warmer is gonna be a challenge" please...


He's not first champion, not the last.
People here saw enough storylines falling hard after reaching the peak, being wonderful for a moment just to become mediocre again.
Also, Code B is kind to Protoss champions it seems.
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WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
April 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#16
On April 30 2014 11:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 10:43 WiggyB wrote:
Why is everyone doubting zest?
People have been doubting him for the past three months. And they have am been completely wrong.
Two major tournament victories in a row? "oh, this Proleague bench warmer is gonna be a challenge" please...


He's not first champion, not the last.
People here saw enough storylines falling hard after reaching the peak, being wonderful for a moment just to become mediocre again.
Also, Code B is kind to Protoss champions it seems.


True dat.

Just feel he doesn't get enough respect for his achievements. One of the few players to do well in Proleague and individual leagues.

If I was zest is be like "What's someone got to do to get some respect around here?"
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
April 30 2014 02:19 GMT
#17
^Zest seems to be on a different level currently than the likes of Seed or Dear. Would be very surprised to see him lose a match today.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 30 2014 02:39 GMT
#18
TAiLS will once again surprise the living hell out of us
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 30 2014 03:00 GMT
#19
On April 30 2014 11:15 WiggyB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 11:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 30 2014 10:43 WiggyB wrote:
Why is everyone doubting zest?
People have been doubting him for the past three months. And they have am been completely wrong.
Two major tournament victories in a row? "oh, this Proleague bench warmer is gonna be a challenge" please...


He's not first champion, not the last.
People here saw enough storylines falling hard after reaching the peak, being wonderful for a moment just to become mediocre again.
Also, Code B is kind to Protoss champions it seems.


True dat.

Just feel he doesn't get enough respect for his achievements. One of the few players to do well in Proleague and individual leagues.

If I was zest is be like "What's someone got to do to get some respect around here?"


I think people love upsets, that's it
+ Show Spoiler +
and then complain about the discontinuity of the stories and the lack of a bonjwa
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2014 03:34 GMT
#20
On April 30 2014 12:00 silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 11:15 WiggyB wrote:
On April 30 2014 11:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 30 2014 10:43 WiggyB wrote:
Why is everyone doubting zest?
People have been doubting him for the past three months. And they have am been completely wrong.
Two major tournament victories in a row? "oh, this Proleague bench warmer is gonna be a challenge" please...


He's not first champion, not the last.
People here saw enough storylines falling hard after reaching the peak, being wonderful for a moment just to become mediocre again.
Also, Code B is kind to Protoss champions it seems.


True dat.

Just feel he doesn't get enough respect for his achievements. One of the few players to do well in Proleague and individual leagues.

If I was zest is be like "What's someone got to do to get some respect around here?"


I think people love upsets, that's it
+ Show Spoiler +
and then complain about the discontinuity of the stories and the lack of a bonjwa

haha yeah this is pretty true.
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