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JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 17:45:35
March 26 2014 17:45 GMT
#161
I don't know the reasoning about this ruckus
It's so simple: he doesn't wanna play anymore; so he leaves his team.
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
March 26 2014 17:50 GMT
#162
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.
aaaaa
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
March 26 2014 17:52 GMT
#163
On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.


Oh, didn't know that. But still, looks so professional not flaming the guy.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
March 26 2014 18:06 GMT
#164
You always see words like "it was a mutual decision to part ways etc." but in reality very few players will openly express what they actually feel, because there is always money involved when it settling a contract so who and who will "happily leave the team while thanking them etc."
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 26 2014 18:07 GMT
#165
On March 27 2014 02:40 sAsImre wrote:
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On March 26 2014 18:56 nkr wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:55 Muffloe wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:51 Wuster wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:49 Muffloe wrote:
On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.

Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene.



Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun.

So I heard about this GSL thing


Swedish poster so you must be talking about Jinro then? =p

Well I can talk about that aswell But that was very early in SC2, and one could argue that it was a different time. Naniwa went RO8 when it was more "figured out"... and what happened when Stephano tried?
(also note that Naniwa was 1 map away form winning DRG, and could cruise on his at the time good pvp to a championship)


ok really, naniwa failed twice before he even got into code s, it took him a lot of time to even start performing in gsl

stephano went there once and lost in a group with innovation and DRG. You can't use this as an argument against stephano, it's just blind fanboyism.


he fell more than twice iirc, wasn't he 0-11 at a time and getting destroyed over and over by lucky ?


He was seeded 3 times in code A and lost in the first round each time, not sure what the scores were, but it was 3 Bo3's against Check and Lucky x2. Stuck around to play GSTL during that time, can't remember how well he did.

Then months later he was actually seeded directly into Code S, he never actually 'got into' it by his play.

Thinking about his results from those two times is interesting to me. Naniwa definitely benefited from match-ups at the time he was bad against Zerg, good against Terran and better than people thought against Protoss (I guess that's still true of him today). You can see what happened in Code A when he drew Zergs. Once he got into Code S it was during a time when Zergs were starting to fall off. He really took advantage of the Terrans he faced and had a few of clutch comebacks in his PvP too.

So I'm not sure he was all that different as a player between his Code A failures and his Code S successes. Maybe it illustrates that the difference between success and failure is more luck based than we'd like to admit (especially when we knock player 'x' for never winning a tourney).
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 26 2014 18:09 GMT
#166
On March 26 2014 12:58 RagequitBM wrote:
That's weird. Loda, and Naniwa would always get into fights on twitter a few months ago because Naniwa kept calling Dota casual. Maybe he changed his mind I suppose.


Or it could be a press release, and he has no choice but to say nice things......
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
March 26 2014 18:13 GMT
#167
On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.


Why do you say that
SooYoung-Noona!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 26 2014 18:23 GMT
#168
On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.


Why do you say that


When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 26 2014 18:42 GMT
#169
On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:
On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.


Why do you say that


When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around.

I agree the hate was very much undeserved, but her casting was of...shall we say dubious quality.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 20:31:08
March 26 2014 18:58 GMT
#170
lol... I had no idea that chick kelly milkies was "managing" a team.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
March 26 2014 19:12 GMT
#171
I wonder if the "other game" is CS:GO
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
March 26 2014 19:34 GMT
#172
On March 27 2014 03:58 Joedaddy wrote:
lol... I had no that chick kelly milkies was "managing" a team.


Isn't Alliance like top 5 or higher as far as Dota 2 teams?
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#173
^ I don't watch or play DOTA so-
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2014 20:48 GMT
#174
On March 27 2014 04:34 Treemonkeys wrote:
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On March 27 2014 03:58 Joedaddy wrote:
lol... I had no that chick kelly milkies was "managing" a team.


Isn't Alliance like top 5 or higher as far as Dota 2 teams?

Win the international last year, which is the Super Bowl of dota. They are easily in the top 5 this year.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 26 2014 21:17 GMT
#175
And here you have, exactly what most of you always wanted. More "professionalism", meaning more modern comporate stupidity. Oh god, that's so great, let's be even more professional. Let's never say anything of any information value ever, so that noone can be offended!

Naniwa will always remain one of my most favourite people of the whole SC2 universe. He was one of the very few who expressed himself, instead of conforming to standarts of behaviour that nobody wants and nobody needs, but everyone requires.

I am so said that I am such a noob in games. If I were ever good in SC2, I would go on to be a pro and then after winning a tourney, I would just write FUCK all across the main stage in my own fresh shit, to show you all what it is to be "unprofessional".
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
March 26 2014 21:27 GMT
#176
I am so disappointed they didn't stir a drama shitstorm but instead focused on the good and positive. My pitchfork is getting rusty.

j/k... Good statement
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 26 2014 21:31 GMT
#177
Things i didn't know about Alliance:

KellyMilkies is their manager.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:37:24
March 26 2014 21:35 GMT
#178
On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:
On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:
On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.

when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing.


Why do you say that


When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around.


It had more to do with GOM's incompetence when it came to filling the position, but hey I'm sure people could make the same argument for PL lol. Comes down to the people in charge and knowing the language pretty darn well. Anyway, you have to be able to filter the good from the bad and sometimes all they see is the bad. Not only that but it's how you take that criticism and understand it as well. Not everyone can do that.

On March 27 2014 06:31 Thrill wrote:
Things i didn't know about Alliance:

KellyMilkies is their manager.



Now you do. I guess you can tell who pays attention to DotA and who doesn't from this thread pretty well. It's what happens when your with the guy running that ship i.e. Loda. He's a pretty big deal in that circle.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 26 2014 22:50 GMT
#179
I'm not a big Kelly fan, but I am impressed that she kept that team and its players in different games running as well as it has. I'm not a fan of how she got the job, but I am impressed with how she has done the job. And I sure hope you guys can figure out which of those two matters more.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
March 26 2014 23:00 GMT
#180
Anyone got a job where I can take a paid 4-6 months break?
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