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On March 29 2014 20:15 plgElwood wrote:
Haha did not know that E-Sports needed that "all happy all well best of luck for future"-Bullshit press releases whenever a player is fired for being imature.
For crying out loud, naniwa is a talented diva. If he loses he blames it on the circumstances if he wins he pats himself on the back the most.
Lol, how didn't you know that yet? This happens every time a player gets kicked for basically anything, Teams trying to make themselves look better and remove backlash on sponsors.
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On March 29 2014 20:15 plgElwood wrote:
Haha did not know that E-Sports needed that "all happy all well best of luck for future"-Bullshit press releases whenever a player is fired for being imature.
For crying out loud, naniwa is a talented diva. If he loses he blames it on the circumstances if he wins he pats himself on the back the most.
Sponsors need that. eSports needs sponsors.
Its exactly the same thing in pro sports.
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On March 30 2014 00:04 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2014 20:15 plgElwood wrote:
Haha did not know that E-Sports needed that "all happy all well best of luck for future"-Bullshit press releases whenever a player is fired for being imature.
For crying out loud, naniwa is a talented diva. If he loses he blames it on the circumstances if he wins he pats himself on the back the most. Sponsors need that. eSports needs sponsors. Its exactly the same thing in pro sports.
And every other profession in the world. Its not like companies go "yeah, we fired that useless piece of shit."
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On March 27 2014 08:04 Clicker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing. Why do you say that When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around. IIRC, it had very little to do with her gender and more of her silliness/pronunciation.
People who say it was because we were sexist just have a screw loose in their head.
"Tor" Was the biggest thing I remember. It's extremely annoying for an English audience when the caster has trouble properly speaking ENGLISH. That on top of the fact she had almost no SC2 knowledge whatsoever.
Nothing to do with her being a woman! That was the only god damn fact she got put there in the first place, lets be honest here.
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On March 30 2014 00:41 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 08:04 Clicker wrote:On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing. Why do you say that When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around. IIRC, it had very little to do with her gender and more of her silliness/pronunciation. People who say it was because we were sexist just have a screw loose in their head. "Tor" Was the biggest thing I remember. It's extremely annoying for an English audience when the caster has trouble properly speaking ENGLISH. That on top of the fact she had almost no SC2 knowledge whatsoever. Nothing to do with her being a woman! That was the only god damn fact she got put there in the first place, lets be honest here.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/female-gamers-are-4x-more-likely-to-be-harassed-online-than-men/0102603
It's not about the fact that she was criticized, it's about how whenever a woman does something dubious the harassment and abuse is a lot more intense.
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On March 30 2014 00:47 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 00:41 Figgy wrote:On March 27 2014 08:04 Clicker wrote:On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing. Why do you say that When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around. IIRC, it had very little to do with her gender and more of her silliness/pronunciation. People who say it was because we were sexist just have a screw loose in their head. "Tor" Was the biggest thing I remember. It's extremely annoying for an English audience when the caster has trouble properly speaking ENGLISH. That on top of the fact she had almost no SC2 knowledge whatsoever. Nothing to do with her being a woman! That was the only god damn fact she got put there in the first place, lets be honest here. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/female-gamers-are-4x-more-likely-to-be-harassed-online-than-men/0102603It's not about the fact that she was criticized, it's about how whenever a woman does something dubious the harassment and abuse is a lot more intense.
That's mostly because women take it too seriosly.
I mean I can't even count anymore how often someone in dota has criticized me for my play with the words in that article.
Just read a twitch chat and you will find out that it's just as bad for males.
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On March 30 2014 00:52 absinthfee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 00:47 Grumbels wrote:On March 30 2014 00:41 Figgy wrote:On March 27 2014 08:04 Clicker wrote:On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing. Why do you say that When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around. IIRC, it had very little to do with her gender and more of her silliness/pronunciation. People who say it was because we were sexist just have a screw loose in their head. "Tor" Was the biggest thing I remember. It's extremely annoying for an English audience when the caster has trouble properly speaking ENGLISH. That on top of the fact she had almost no SC2 knowledge whatsoever. Nothing to do with her being a woman! That was the only god damn fact she got put there in the first place, lets be honest here. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/female-gamers-are-4x-more-likely-to-be-harassed-online-than-men/0102603It's not about the fact that she was criticized, it's about how whenever a woman does something dubious the harassment and abuse is a lot more intense. That's mostly because women take it too seriosly. I mean I can't even count anymore how often someone in dota has criticized me for my play with the words in that article. Just read a twitch chat and you will find out that it's just as bad for males.
You get insulted in dota for being a man? I've never experienced that personally...
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On March 30 2014 00:41 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 08:04 Clicker wrote:On March 27 2014 03:23 fishjie wrote:On March 27 2014 03:13 ffadicted wrote:On March 27 2014 02:50 beesinyoface wrote:On March 27 2014 02:45 SChlafmann wrote:
Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
when it's coming from KM it means little next to absolutely fucking nothing. Why do you say that When KM was first casting sc2 many years ago, half the people on TL hated her because she was a girl. it was pretty gross. anyone who defended her was accused of white knighting. guess some of those posters are still around. IIRC, it had very little to do with her gender and more of her silliness/pronunciation. People who say it was because we were sexist just have a screw loose in their head. "Tor" Was the biggest thing I remember. It's extremely annoying for an English audience when the caster has trouble properly speaking ENGLISH. That on top of the fact she had almost no SC2 knowledge whatsoever. Nothing to do with her being a woman! That was the only god damn fact she got put there in the first place, lets be honest here.
You act like the two can't exist side by side. She clearly had issues as a caster, but just as clearly were the attacks on her based by sexism. They both happened and yes at times it's hard to tell if the criticism was fueled by legit problems and when it was by sexism. But it's pretty naive to think that it was exclusively one or the other.
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