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On March 26 2014 23:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 23:42 RoyW wrote:
In any capacity in the professional world,you don't take a giant shit on a former employee I'm dumbfounded that I left not one, not two, but three disclaimers in my post and somehow you still managed to misinterpret what I said. Being professional and providing accurate, relevant, real information in your press release following an incident are not mutually exclusive concepts though.
What exactly would you have wanted Alliance to say to stop it from being "Meaningless PR bullshit"?
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lol @ alliance telling everything just the way it happened and being extremely professional about everything and emphasizing that it was a sh*tty situation to begin with... and ppl b*tching because there isn't MORE drama and hate to talk about.
Am I in a posh girl cliche in high school?
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On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this.
The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him.
Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa.
Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next.
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On March 26 2014 18:45 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 18:42 var username wrote:On March 26 2014 13:12 lichter wrote:
I didn't know Kelly was Alliance's manager whut Very shocked at that revelation as well, after the moonglade/huk saga. Oh well, personal reservations are just that, personal reservations. Alliance has the guts to separate personal life from professional capacities I guess. what saga? have i missed sc2 drama?
If no one has replied to you regarding this: well, yes, I think you've missed quite a bit. It's not very nice to bring this up again when it's a couple of years back, so you should Google her username (most sites chronicling the scandals and general discontentment are still up).
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On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next.
Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO...
I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait.
And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated.
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Very nicely handled by Alliance, ggwp!
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On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated.
PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public.
Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward.
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On March 27 2014 00:04 RoyW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 23:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On March 26 2014 23:42 RoyW wrote:
In any capacity in the professional world,you don't take a giant shit on a former employee I'm dumbfounded that I left not one, not two, but three disclaimers in my post and somehow you still managed to misinterpret what I said. Being professional and providing accurate, relevant, real information in your press release following an incident are not mutually exclusive concepts though. What exactly would you have wanted Alliance to say to stop it from being "Meaningless PR bullshit"?
FULL DISCLOSURE & TRANSPARENCY! Alliance needs to release all the contracts, all the skype messages, everything, otherwise the PR statement will mean nothing!
+ Show Spoiler +because that's how things work
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On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward.
Actually the whole point of this Naniwa case is about non profesionnalism of a player and non understanding of professionalism by a whole bunch of viewers.
To make it clear as my english sucks: I completely agree with you and a lot of people should understand that pro means more that "wow, cool, I'm paid to play video games!".
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On March 27 2014 01:36 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward. Actually the whole point of this Naniwa case is about non profesionnalism of a player and non understanding of professionalism by a whole bunch of viewers. To make it clear as my english sucks: I completely agree with you and a lot of people should understand that pro means more that "wow, cool, I'm paid to play video games!".
Allow me to help you enlighten yourself:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/professional
You're welcome.
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On March 27 2014 01:38 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:36 Furikawari wrote:On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward. Actually the whole point of this Naniwa case is about non profesionnalism of a player and non understanding of professionalism by a whole bunch of viewers. To make it clear as my english sucks: I completely agree with you and a lot of people should understand that pro means more that "wow, cool, I'm paid to play video games!". Allow me to help you enlighten yourself: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/professionalYou're welcome.
This simplistic definition goes perfectly with the fact that no professional in any sport got fired for bad behavior OUTSIDE of the field. When you get sponsored things become a bit more than just performing (euphemism).
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I think this is at least a partial issue that Alex has to face when he picks super-high profile players with big personalities like Stephano, Idra, Naniwa.
Of course they're going to generate revenue, but the risk of a "scandal" is always there. Seems a lot like Nike's strategy, compared to Liquid/Adidas.
I don't really know who this addresses :D
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On March 27 2014 01:41 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:38 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:On March 27 2014 01:36 Furikawari wrote:On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward. Actually the whole point of this Naniwa case is about non profesionnalism of a player and non understanding of professionalism by a whole bunch of viewers. To make it clear as my english sucks: I completely agree with you and a lot of people should understand that pro means more that "wow, cool, I'm paid to play video games!". Allow me to help you enlighten yourself: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/professionalYou're welcome. This simplistic definition goes perfectly with the fact that no professional in any sport got fired for bad behavior OUTSIDE of the field. When you get sponsored things become a bit more than just performing (euphemism).
Is this a joke?
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On March 27 2014 01:54 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:41 Furikawari wrote:On March 27 2014 01:38 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:On March 27 2014 01:36 Furikawari wrote:On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward. Actually the whole point of this Naniwa case is about non profesionnalism of a player and non understanding of professionalism by a whole bunch of viewers. To make it clear as my english sucks: I completely agree with you and a lot of people should understand that pro means more that "wow, cool, I'm paid to play video games!". Allow me to help you enlighten yourself: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/professionalYou're welcome. This simplistic definition goes perfectly with the fact that no professional in any sport got fired for bad behavior OUTSIDE of the field. When you get sponsored things become a bit more than just performing (euphemism). Is this a joke?
I assume so. It has to be because the statement is to dumb for me to believe someone would think it was true.
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The interview with Naniwa was really good.
This statement was also good and professional.
But of course these are not the things many people in the community want to see. They want read crap and rumours and assume the worst all the time, and if its based on facts or not has no meaning to them. Thats sad. Too many people who are like old people sitting at home with other old people whining and gossiping about some neighbour (that noone knows or have talked to).
Nice statement. And good luck to Naniwa, I hope he finds his love for the game again!
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On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward.
Not sure how it goes against my use.
They used the press release to show that they didn't want to look like the firing was more mutually planned, rather than something dumped on them.
I just doubt that the statements were genuine thoughts of the "teammates" and "management".
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On March 27 2014 02:14 yido wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:27 Plansix wrote:On March 27 2014 01:13 yido wrote:On March 27 2014 00:34 pms wrote:On March 26 2014 22:15 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 22:08 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 26 2014 13:55 Waxangel wrote:
I hope NaNiwa becomes a top tier LoL player so he can have interactions with Carmac forever Naniwa is such a good team player and flexible to adjust to playing with other people,so I have no doubt he could achieve greatness in LoL as well So true... Even Naniboys must be able to see this. The funny thing is that you never was in a team with him. Anyway, great statements and interviews both from Alliance and Naniwa. Good luck to Naniwa in whatever he is going to do next. Funny thing is neither were you. LMFAO... I guess you must respond every negative post about Naniwa with a bait. And you would think the statements and interviews aren't completely PR motivated. PR stands for public relations and we can safely say that all public statements made by a company are PR motivated. Their intent isn't to damage the relationship with the public. Some folks really need to wrap their head around the idea that a buisness has zero modivation to get into a flame war with a former employee. Literally zero. They just want to move on and focus on other things. That is why statements like these are positive and doesn't focus on the drama. Because Alliance just wants to move forward. Not sure how it goes against my use. They used the press release to show that they didn't want to look like the firing was more mutually planned, rather than something dumped on them. I just doubt that the statements were genuine thoughts of the "teammates" and "management".
You don't need to doubt or wonder, they arnt the genuine thoughts of the team or managment. You won't get to know those, since they are private. Companies don't release their internal decision making process for firing someone. It's super unprofessional.
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On March 26 2014 18:56 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 18:55 Muffloe wrote:On March 26 2014 18:51 Wuster wrote:On March 26 2014 18:49 Muffloe wrote:On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun. So I heard about this GSL thing Swedish poster so you must be talking about Jinro then? =p Well I can talk about that aswell  But that was very early in SC2, and one could argue that it was a different time. Naniwa went RO8 when it was more "figured out"... and what happened when Stephano tried? (also note that Naniwa was 1 map away form winning DRG, and could cruise on his at the time good pvp to a championship) ok really, naniwa failed twice before he even got into code s, it took him a lot of time to even start performing in gsl stephano went there once and lost in a group with innovation and DRG. You can't use this as an argument against stephano, it's just blind fanboyism.
he fell more than twice iirc, wasn't he 0-11 at a time and getting destroyed over and over by lucky ?
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Wow, I'm like..Wow.
Awesome job from Alliance there. I believe no one expected this kind of statement.
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