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Lol, Is anybody suing him for forfeiting the series? I dont see anyone taking legal actions against Naniwa atm...
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
Lol, Is anybody suing him for forfeiting the series? I dont see anyone taking legal actions against Naniwa atm... | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
Its like everyone is letting Naniwa drag them down to his level, without realizing it themselves. Just let this blow over and forget about it, all this hatemongering is depressing and makes the TL/SC2 Community look suprisingly immature. | ||
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t e a C h e r
Canada151 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On March 22 2014 04:54 sc2holar wrote: I would say that the reactions from the SC2 community and this whole twitterwar debacle (Kas etc) is just as damaging to the reputation of the industry as naniwas lack of professionalism. Its like everyone is letting Naniwa drag them down to his level, without realizing it themselves. Just let this blow over and forget about it, all this hatemongering is depressing and makes the TL/SC2 Community look suprisingly immature. I completely agree with this. In the end, if someone is making a fool out of themselves and behaving like a moron, you should leave them to it, there's no need to kick a man while he's down in a puddle of mud, all you're going to do is get your shoes dirty. Some people just love to partake in the drama. | ||
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AceOfCakez
United States72 Posts
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
I don't defend Nani's forfeiture mid-series, but if I were in that position, I'd probably also be trying to force [A]/IEM's hand to avoid attending a tournament that I have no hope to win any prize in. | ||
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On March 22 2014 03:47 OpTiKcoyote wrote: I never said he didn't earn his skill. Everyone does that plays this game. It's one of the beauties of the game and Pro players opportunity. My frustration is that he had everything set (like many players) to get to play and push further in the game, and throws it away. An he has thrown it away again and again. I guess it's jealousy leaking out of me but damnit it just pisses me off to watch people do this that have this chance. To get to sit down work hard and compete and beat ProLeauge level players and further? Dream come true. Another player throwing it away. I'll shut up because I can see I'm becoming repetitive. Just damnit.. How is he throwing things away?? I disagree on his behavior, but if he does not find enjoyment in the game anymore, it's his choice to stop and go back to school or do something with his life. SC2 is not some dream job, Esports is a rough and short lived career. How dare people get mad because someone chooses to leave. IdrA hated this game for longest time as well. Screw playing the game you hate just to please viewers. Again Naniwa choose the bad way to retire, people also need to remember he has legit mental issues. It's more disgusting seeing people pick on someone who has a legit mental condition that affects his social skills with other people, it does not excuse what nani did, but the random internet hate on him is sick. Nani has the skill other players don't have, that's how he got himself to the top, aint no team or sponsor carried his way. If Nani had no team, his skill alone would still win him spots in tourneys. | ||
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isaachukfan
Canada785 Posts
Also, if his explanation seems a bit whiny, it sounds as if he wants to still get paid even though he doesn't want to do his job anymore, if he actually didn't want to go to IEM, he could have simply retired officially and they couldn't of punished him legally, since any legal agreement would become void. Then IEM could also give his spot to a deserving player. Overall, I'm not sure what the fuss is. | ||
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Gothic
Sweden122 Posts
The post quoted by the TL staff at the beginning of this thread was from Naniwa's fanclub. Just before his post, we had discussed the theory that perhaps he was indeed forced to attend the tournament by contract. Nani's response felt more like a response to that topic, than a complaint about being kicked. I feel it got pulled a little bit out of context. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 22 2014 05:24 LingBlingBling wrote: How is he throwing things away?? I disagree on his behavior, but if he does not find enjoyment in the game anymore, it's his choice to stop and go back to school or do something with his life. SC2 is not some dream job, Esports is a rough and short lived career. How dare people get mad because someone chooses to leave. IdrA hated this game for longest time as well. Screw playing the game you hate just to please viewers. Again Naniwa choose the bad way to retire, people also need to remember he has legit mental issues. It's more disgusting seeing people pick on someone who has a legit mental condition that affects his social skills with other people, it does not excuse what nani did, but the random internet hate on him is sick. Nani has the skill other players don't have, that's how he got himself to the top, aint no team or sponsor carried his way. If Nani had no team, his skill alone would still win him spots in tourneys. I saw this in some previous posts, likely yours in another thread. Mind if I ask for a source? | ||
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
On March 22 2014 03:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: To be fair to Naniwa, he earned his position with hard work and skill. That's what makes the whole thing so tragic and infuriating, there's nothing worse than watching someone squander their talent. That is precisely what I find very sad in this whole story: knowing that Nani has so much talent and he's wasting it cause of his attitude. I'm not talking only about SC2 here, but what will happen next to the kid. Who is defending Nani's actions here is doing him a disservice not a favor. People close to him and supporting him must make him understand that he's the one who is going to suffer the most from his actions, not Alliance, not SC2, not the esport scene. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
This community sure has changed alot. Those who spew hatred at Naniwa for his lack of manners might want to take a look at their own behavior and how it reflects the community as a whole... | ||
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On March 22 2014 05:35 sc2holar wrote: When did it become fair game to openly bash and hate on players? I once got a temp ban for being overly critical of Ret for playing econ cheese in a tournament. Now it seems like namecalling and hatemongering is fair game. This community sure has changed alot. Those who spew hatred at Naniwa for his lack of manners might want to take a look at their own behavior and how it reflects the community as a whole... you must be new to the internet jk jk....truthfully this is how most communities end up. They older they are the more bitter they become | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On March 22 2014 05:35 sc2holar wrote: When did it become fair game to openly bash and hate on players? I once got a temp ban for being overly critical of Ret for playing econ cheese in a tournament. Now it seems like namecalling and hatemongering is fair game. This community sure has changed alot. Those who spew hatred at Naniwa for his lack of manners might want to take a look at their own behavior and how it reflects the community as a whole... TeamLiquid has become more mainstream than battle.net forums, TL is not nearly as moderated as it was a few years ago, used to be heavily moderated. I see so much disgusting crap being said on these forums. Seems like bashing on certain people became ok these days. People don't need to resort to straight up hate if they don't like a behavior of a player, they can be more constructive with it. | ||
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aldochillbro
187 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On March 22 2014 05:30 Fran_ wrote: That is precisely what I find very sad in this whole story: knowing that Nani has so much talent and he's wasting it cause of his attitude. I'm not talking only about SC2 here, but what will happen next to the kid. Who is defending Nani's actions here is doing him a disservice not a favor. People close to him and supporting him must make him understand that he's the one who is going to suffer the most from his actions, not Alliance, not SC2, not the esport scene. actually, you aren't doing him a favor by not minding your own business and trying to 'teach/control' him to be the way you want him to be. contrary to what everyone thinks, he will be fine, at least by his standards, and that should allow TL forumers to get off his dick. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 22 2014 05:44 aldochillbro wrote: it's terrible that anyone is defending the team in this situation. I get blaming nani, but how can anyone defend that pretty much forced one of their players to get on a plane and play in a tournament that he didn't want to be in? in a scene that gets butthurt about...everything, how come his team is taking less of the blame? because he could've said no, stuck to that and gotten fired (or gave his resignation) instead of saying no, still going, pulling what he did off then getting fired lol. | ||
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