This is a quick second-hand and shortened translation. As always, it is important to note about the things that lost during the two translation processes.
This is the interview after Flash winning his game against Rain and his 7 anniversary match.
Q: A lot of fans have come to the studio today.
Flash: It really gives me huge strength. Since this new SPL, I have found much of the feeling like before. I used to have a happy communication with my fans, but suddenly fans have become fewer, which makes me feel regretful. But recently the number of fans has increased, which gives me huge strength.
Q: I heard that you never lose in TvP during practice.
Flash: This time I practiced for about 70 games, with 2 losses. So I have confidence. My winrate is high so I think I have performed well in today's game. Rain's reaction is outstanding so it was difficult. I dropped in his natural and lost many units but thankfully I have killed lots of workers as well. And then I was gradually gaining advantage.
Q: Last words?
Flash: Lots of fans came today for my 7 anniversary. Thank you everyone. I hope everyone can come to cheer for me in the future. After eating the mountain ginseng, I will certainly cheer up.
Some data on the SC2's recent popularity in Korea.
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For some unknown reasons, SC2's popularity in Korea has indeed been good after the new SPL,at least compared to the last SPL during OGN's production, which is strange considering the higher status of OGN. The online game played time ranking on inven shows that SC2 has been around #15 for many months and it was not that high during Wings and not that high before this new SPL as well. But of course shortly after the HOTS release the ranking was higher----I remember that it was around #11, for a few months.
Also, the new SPL's VOD viewership in Korea is relatively better than before as well. The VOD of some of the best players achieved a viewership of 20k to 40k. And Fantasy vs Roro in Round 2 has a ridiculous viewer number of 159k, which is even higher than most of the LoL VODs on Naver's VOD system.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
On March 19 2014 00:38 DinoMight wrote: To be honest this current season of Proleague has been awesome. I've never watched SPL before. Not surprised that the numbers are up.
Same here, didn't watch it alot before. I think the former eSF teams and former players now playing in Kespa teams does help proleague a lot. Both in acquiring more fans/viewers, but also in increasing quality by a lot.
I think the slight resurgence in popularity makes sense. Remember it wasn't just OGN, it was half OGN half IEG/SpoTV in that crappy studio. Also I'm sure OGN put little effort into promotion, unlike what is happening now. Lastly, having it in the OGN studio starkly put comparisons to BW in people's minds and created negativity. But with a fresh studio and new teams it feels like more of a fresh start and a separate thing that can stand on it's own.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
Can't be ladder if he practiced the map.
I think you're right. 68/70 in customs is insane, though. I still think Flash is underrated by virtue of being seen less often in 1v1 tournaments in SCII (as compared to Jaedong, Taeja, etc).
that pic is awesome. he looks genuinely happy. I really hope he can start wrecking face in the gsl next season. make protoss your bitch flash plzplzplz
On March 19 2014 01:18 Fhiz wrote: i have looked around on inven and cant find the game rankings i am very curios if anyone can link i would be very grateful !
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
^_^ and since david kim is aking FLASH about tvp and balance, i hope we get p buffs ? xD
You should rather be content that in his mercy, Flash concedes a 2.9% winrate for your race.
Just let drg dumpster a few more terrans and there will be a buff to something terran related for sure. Maybe the thors damage is consolidated into one attack
If i was on dailyesports i would fire the photographer, that was the most horrible picture of flash ive ever seen, bad angle bad timing, i mean hes not bisu, but the picture doesnt do him any good lol
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
Can't be ladder if he practiced the map.
Why do people assume ladder anyway? KT is a team, so it makes sense if they assign practice partners. Also, ladder isn't good for practising against something specific.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
Can't be ladder if he practiced the map.
Why do people assume ladder anyway? KT is a team, so it makes sense if they assign practice partners. Also, ladder isn't good for practising against something specific.
Sure, but it's very good for practising something specific since you'll be matched up against a variety of players and builds to test your ability to improvise.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
I miss the between games emo song that OGN had last season but otherwise the SPOTV Production has been really nice. I also like Wolf's casting and the other guy isn't too bad either.
The problem with this 68/70 stats is that most were vs practice partners probably. And Flash's macro is still world class so he beats them with his macro only
I doubt Zest was the one playing against Flash since he had to prepare PvZ himself.
Why does it matter WHO he played against when he got a 68-2 score? The point is that FLASH is feeling confident against protoss.Nobody cares a dime whether you people are confident or not, lol.
On March 19 2014 03:06 sd_andeh wrote: Why does it matter WHO he played against when he got a 68-2 score? The point is that FLASH is feeling confident against protoss.Nobody cares a dime whether you people are confident or not, lol.
Also like 68-2 vs. Myungsik/Stats or anyone on that team would not be impressive. I'm pretty sure he encountered a large variety of builds in those 70 games and he beat (almost) all of them against players who definitely know what they're doing. But I'm glad he seems to be on the way up again!
Now if only Jaedong and Flash could be performing really well at the same time (which hasn't happened.. ever?) so they can face off again in some tournament final!
My guess? Even though it hasn't been long, I think the SC2 Arcade going free has helped increased its popularity in Korea.
That's the only thing I can currently attribute off the top of my head. Proleague itself really hasn't changed all that much on the Korean side. VODs are free now, but I don't recall if they were behind a paywall last season or not. They got Wolf as a caster, but that only really helps the English broadcast side of things.
On March 19 2014 03:34 Rube_Juice wrote: This proleague season has been amazing.
PLEASE SWITCH BACK TO BO7 AND I CAN DIE HAPPY
But then mvp will stop winning everything :\
Good. Proleague/team leagues in general should be about depth and not 2-3 players carrying hard core. I hated GSTL all-kill format for the same reason =/
On March 19 2014 03:13 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Is he holding a box of pubes?
Did you read the interview and completely disregard what they called it, or did you open the thread, look at the picture and make a bad post?
I read something about the mountain Ginseng but nothing about pubes. Staring at the box it most certainly is pubes.
You on the other hand decided long and good to point out a post you thought weak (your standards) and slam a "bad post" stamp on it. Man, you can't just claim "bad post" on anything. Go back to school.
On March 19 2014 03:34 Rube_Juice wrote: This proleague season has been amazing.
PLEASE SWITCH BACK TO BO7 AND I CAN DIE HAPPY
But then mvp will stop winning everything :\
Good. Proleague/team leagues in general should be about depth and not 2-3 players carrying hard core. I hated GSTL all-kill format for the same reason =/
There have always been teams with 2-3 players carrying hardcore. Hwaseung, in certain stages kt etc. Having said that, if it did go to bo7 I still think they'd get to ace match at least, that lineup is pretty solid.
On March 19 2014 03:13 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Is he holding a box of pubes?
Did you read the interview and completely disregard what they called it, or did you open the thread, look at the picture and make a bad post?
I read something about the mountain Ginseng but nothing about pubes. Staring at the box it most certainly is pubes.
You on the other hand decided long and good to point out a post you thought weak (your standards) and slam a "bad post" stamp on it. Man, you can't just claim "bad post" on anything. Go back to school.
Disregard him man, you're completely right it's an amazing post. Pubes and parsnip's are probably what they gave him.
On March 19 2014 00:32 Fhiz wrote: ranked 15th in what? viewers? in korea?
The online game played time ranking on inven
What games are above it, i can only think of like 3?
There are some korean games so i can't name them all but a few of them are warcraft 3,broodwar, diablo 3, wow, cs clone, league of legends and probably a few i forgot
On March 19 2014 00:32 Fhiz wrote: ranked 15th in what? viewers? in korea?
The online game played time ranking on inven
What games are above it, i can only think of like 3?
There are some korean games so i can't name them all but a few of them are warcraft 3,broodwar, diablo 3, wow, cs clone, league of legends and probably a few i forgot
I don't know a single character of Korean, but as far as I've been able to tell from random pattern recognition with translated game titles, the top 10 are League of Legends, Sudden Attack, FIFA Online 3, Lineage, Dungeon Fighter, Diablo 3, Aion, Blade & Soul, ??? and Eos.
On March 19 2014 07:43 Emerson_H wrote: 68-2 winrate? It's taken a while, but I think GOD is back!
Now all he has to do is pull it off outside of practice in more then one match up
Yeah and vs better opponents than myungsik
Yeah there are many players who reportedly have amazing practice results that don't translate to their real match performance. Still, it would be quite interesting to see Flash become the absolute beast that people have been expecting him to be.
I would also say location of the new studio? The old studio wasn't inconvenient... but it was kinda out of the way. Now, it's in a really hot part of Seoul so it's probably easier for people to make excuses to drag along their friends and visit!
On March 19 2014 08:14 Ensue wrote: I would also say location of the new studio? The old studio wasn't inconvenient... but it was kinda out of the way. Now, it's in a really hot part of Seoul so it's probably easier for people to make excuses to drag along their friends and visit!
There were people bringing signs which said they were from the very south part of Korea, apparently there were more people watching round 1 finals then last seasons grand finals (according to a reddit post), and the crowd turn out has just steadily been increasing. Teams which I thought would be about as unpopular as it gets are getting fan girl cheers. idk it just looks like the scene is growing in korea.
On March 19 2014 01:11 Squat wrote: Someone gave Flash a box of weed?
mountain "ginseng" wink wink
Hey man, I wouldn't mind getting a box of some good blunt for my birthday. Flash seems like a guy I'd like to sit and have a joint or two with.
This particular box looks pretty cheap in comparison tbph, at like $600 a pound I think they're onto something.
It might be cheaper than you guys think. Mountain ginseng is now just more or less a very unclear definition since you can have human grown ginseng on mountain and those are pretty cheap.
Pretty good interview. I hope Flash is able to translate his success in practice to greater success in tournaments. What makes me a bit sad is being from the Brood War era originally, growth in popularity in Korea for SC2 is still nowhere near Brood War's popularity back in the ay. There's many reasons for this, especially the rise of MOBAs, issues between KESPA and Blizzard, etc., so while it's not surprising, it is nonetheless somber.
I've been seeing a lot of ppl use Inven ranking as a source lately, without really understanding what they're citing... It needs to be clarified that Inven ranking is not an "online playing time" ranking. It's a very strange ranking that comprises of online playing time and exposure, via ads, television, etc. So since Blizzard pumps a lot of money in SC2 advertisement, and Proleague is on TV practically every day, SC2's Inven ranking is much higher than other games that have much more online activity.
If you want to judge the amount of exposure Koreans get to SC2 relative to other games, then sure, use Inven. But otherwise, please use Gametrics instead. This is not to say that SC2's popularity hasn't risen, because it has, but it's getting very annoying to see the Inven ranking data being used inappropriately.
On March 19 2014 00:32 Fhiz wrote: ranked 15th in what? viewers? in korea?
The online game played time ranking on inven
What games are above it, i can only think of like 3?
There are some korean games so i can't name them all but a few of them are warcraft 3,broodwar, diablo 3, wow, cs clone, league of legends and probably a few i forgot
I don't know a single character of Korean, but as far as I've been able to tell from random pattern recognition with translated game titles, the top 10 are League of Legends, Sudden Attack, FIFA Online 3, Lineage, Dungeon Fighter, Diablo 3, Aion, Blade & Soul, ??? and Eos.
Ye that is pretty accurate, I just remember some games from a long time ago when someone actually translated these, if i remember correctly BW is at rank 11(long time ago)
They clearly need to get better practice partners for Flash if they want him to continue improving. You don't learn much with a 97% winrate. Maybe if they get sos as practice partner, Flash will only win 85% of his practice games?
On March 19 2014 11:26 ArvickHero wrote: I've been seeing a lot of ppl use Inven ranking as a source lately, without really understanding what they're citing... It needs to be clarified that Inven ranking is not an "online playing time" ranking. It's a very strange ranking that comprises of online playing time and exposure, via ads, television, etc. So since Blizzard pumps a lot of money in SC2 advertisement, and Proleague is on TV practically every day, SC2's Inven ranking is much higher than other games that have much more online activity.
If you want to judge the amount of exposure Koreans get to SC2 relative to other games, then sure, use Inven. But otherwise, please use Gametrics instead. This is not to say that SC2's popularity hasn't risen, because it has, but it's getting very annoying to see the Inven ranking data being used inappropriately.
This
These Rankings get amazingly manipulated by ad exposure, Sc2 isn't as bad as Arvick makes it sound with ad exposure as some of those top ranked games tho, LoL, Aion, Lineage and EoS have massive amounts of ad exposure and considering those games list anywere from 1st to 9th, it makes the top 10 alone very blurred if you're thinking "played popularity"
I honestly dont trust Gametrics either though, but a hell of a lot more accurate than inven considering their system.
gametrics seems like a pretty legitimate source. their data comes from a really really good sample size. out of 15,817 PC Bangs in Korea they took a sample size of 4000 with geographic randomization. Of course this is only PC Bang statistics but given Korea's culture of PC Bang I'd have to say a lot of what you play at home you probably also play at PC Bang.
Singleplayer games are under represented in PCBangs today compared to 10 years ago as it is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to buy a PC in Korea today than it use to be.
Dont get me wrong, for PCBang only stats Gametrics is great, its just games you play alone or online mostly alone, dont get as much time in PCBangs as they use to.
Been a few times lately including Flash's anniversary. Really starting to get the old vibe of BW audiences with the rejuvenated fangirl count, I also prefer the new Gangnam studio to Yongsan. The cheerleaders help to bring in a few creepy guys too.
On March 19 2014 19:53 ZodaSoda wrote: Singleplayer games are under represented in PCBangs today compared to 10 years ago as it is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to buy a PC in Korea today than it use to be.
Dont get me wrong, for PCBang only stats Gametrics is great, its just games you play alone or online mostly alone, dont get as much time in PCBangs as they use to.
ahh that makes alot of sense. PC prices sure have dropped a ton lol
On March 19 2014 20:04 Scarecrow wrote: Been a few times lately including Flash's anniversary. Really starting to get the old vibe of BW audiences with the rejuvenated fangirl count, I also prefer the new Gangnam studio to Yongsan. The cheerleaders help to bring in a few creepy guys too.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
i'm sure it depends on personal preference but a lot of ladder is always useful to keep track of the metagame and see a lot of playstyles as many teams only have 1-3 players of a certain race
On March 19 2014 00:38 DinoMight wrote: To be honest this current season of Proleague has been awesome. I've never watched SPL before. Not surprised that the numbers are up.
Same here, didn't watch it alot before. I think the former eSF teams and former players now playing in Kespa teams does help proleague a lot. Both in acquiring more fans/viewers, but also in increasing quality by a lot.
I actually think the opposite in terms of quality. The KESPA teams have the better players on the whole, even though they've lost a good chunk of their very best players (such as Dear, Innovation and Jangbi), but I think you're right that they brought viewers.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
i'm sure it depends on personal preference but a lot of ladder is always useful to keep track of the metagame and see a lot of playstyles as many teams only have 1-3 players of a certain race
I am sure he plays a lot of ladder. But he obviously prepares for a map in PL as well by doing custom games. I remember one interview in which he said he plays around 40-50 games per day so getting 70 games shouldn't be a problem for Flash, that is 2 days work for him.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
I recall someone from woongjin saying that they would do 70% customs, 30% ladder. Seems like a good ratio.
Top players not bothering with ladder is ridiculous though.
Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
I recall someone from woongjin saying that they would do 70% customs, 30% ladder. Seems like a good ratio.
Top players not bothering with ladder is ridiculous though.
If you look at ladder, the top Korean GMs have about 500-600 games, with some as low as 400 and some as high as 800, but let's just use 600 in our calculations. Ladder season began at the start of this year if I'm not wrong, so it's gone on for about 80 days. That's about 7.5 ladder games a day. Players practice like 10 hours a day and should play in excess of 40 games, but let's just assume 40 to account for days lost to attending live matches. So using these roughly estimated figures, we realise that less than 20% of games played by KeSPA progamers are on ladder.
Besides, people will only play standard builds or non-competitive builds on ladder to avoid revealing their secrets.
On March 20 2014 00:08 Shinokuki wrote: Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
KeSPA teams won't allow their players to stream as it's unprofessional. Do you see football players streaming their practice sessions? No, because it gives away their strategies. Even back in the BW days, only retired players would stream.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
The only people Nal_ra beat were Yellow Nada and Flash lol, 17 golds and 14 silvers between them, 12-10 if you only count MSL/OSL.
On March 20 2014 00:08 Shinokuki wrote: Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
well it's rank 7 atm and some dude told me most of the GSL viewers watch via Gom's site with 1080p quality or something. But there really aren't too many SC2 streamers (popular ones at least) on afreeca
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
I recall someone from woongjin saying that they would do 70% customs, 30% ladder. Seems like a good ratio.
Top players not bothering with ladder is ridiculous though.
If you look at ladder, the top Korean GMs have about 500-600 games, with some as low as 400 and some as high as 800, but let's just use 600 in our calculations. Ladder season began at the start of this year if I'm not wrong, so it's gone on for about 80 days. That's about 7.5 ladder games a day. Players practice like 10 hours a day and should play in excess of 40 games, but let's just assume 40 to account for days lost to attending live matches. So using these roughly estimated figures, we realise that less than 20% of games played by KeSPA progamers are on ladder.
Besides, people will only play standard builds or non-competitive builds on ladder to avoid revealing their secrets.
On March 20 2014 00:08 Shinokuki wrote: Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
KeSPA teams won't allow their players to stream as it's unprofessional. Do you see football players streaming their practice sessions? No, because it gives away their strategies. Even back in the BW days, only retired players would stream.
I mean i remember bw SPL/OSL having lot of viewers like 10-20k on afreeca but i don't see sc2. Maybe people watch on TV instead? sc2 shows on tv right?
i dont find the link anymore, but in bw, a terran on kt once said in an interview that "whoever practices with flash inevitably starts slumping. last week, i played 70 tvt practice matches against flash. i won once."
Im super happy to hear flash being in a more bright and optimistic mood. some months ago, when he was giving those depri interviews, i really started to worry about a lingering retirement. but who am i kidding - immortals dont retire.
On March 20 2014 08:54 Black Gun wrote: i dont find the link anymore, but in bw, a terran on kt once said in an interview that "whoever practices with flash inevitably starts slumping. last week, i played 70 tvt practice matches against flash. i won once."
Im super happy to hear flash being in a more bright and optimistic mood. some months ago, when he was giving those depri interviews, i really started to worry about a lingering retirement. but who am i kidding - immortals dont retire.
Ample said back when he was in KT, Flash's main TvT practice partner was ForGG and he had around a 50% winrate vs ForGG. but somehow when Flash would go out for actual games he would just absolutely stomp the opposition. It's that progamer force the opponent feels I think. like what other pros say about playing vs Jaedong/Bisu/Flash
On March 20 2014 00:22 Pangpootata wrote: KeSPA teams won't allow their players to stream as it's unprofessional. Do you see football players streaming their practice sessions? No, because it gives away their strategies. Even back in the BW days, only retired players would stream.
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i am very curios if anyone can link i would be very grateful ! 
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