On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
i'm sure it depends on personal preference but a lot of ladder is always useful to keep track of the metagame and see a lot of playstyles as many teams only have 1-3 players of a certain race
On March 19 2014 00:38 DinoMight wrote: To be honest this current season of Proleague has been awesome. I've never watched SPL before. Not surprised that the numbers are up.
Same here, didn't watch it alot before. I think the former eSF teams and former players now playing in Kespa teams does help proleague a lot. Both in acquiring more fans/viewers, but also in increasing quality by a lot.
I actually think the opposite in terms of quality. The KESPA teams have the better players on the whole, even though they've lost a good chunk of their very best players (such as Dear, Innovation and Jangbi), but I think you're right that they brought viewers.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
It wouldn't make much sense to ladder when you've got practice partners of several teams available and 1-2 maps/mu's to prepare for in a week. Laddering would be okay prep for weekend tournaments and multi-race groups but I can't fathom why they'd do it for proleague/GSL BoX.
i'm sure it depends on personal preference but a lot of ladder is always useful to keep track of the metagame and see a lot of playstyles as many teams only have 1-3 players of a certain race
I am sure he plays a lot of ladder. But he obviously prepares for a map in PL as well by doing custom games. I remember one interview in which he said he plays around 40-50 games per day so getting 70 games shouldn't be a problem for Flash, that is 2 days work for him.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
I recall someone from woongjin saying that they would do 70% customs, 30% ladder. Seems like a good ratio.
Top players not bothering with ladder is ridiculous though.
Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
On March 19 2014 00:28 cekkmt wrote: 68/70 is a stupidly high win rate, even for practice. I wonder if those were ladder or customs.
I want to assume customs, because otherwise that would be a ridic amount of ladder games. But then again, I don't know over how many days this was. Regardless, that's truly an incredibly winrate
Solar confirmed on his stream that, just like brood war, no top korean bothers much with ladder. They mainly use customs as it's way more efficient practice, especially for a format like proleague and code s.
i'm not sold, a lot of very good players often say that to prepare for matches they focus on the basics and practiced on ladder rather than with specific players
I recall someone from woongjin saying that they would do 70% customs, 30% ladder. Seems like a good ratio.
Top players not bothering with ladder is ridiculous though.
If you look at ladder, the top Korean GMs have about 500-600 games, with some as low as 400 and some as high as 800, but let's just use 600 in our calculations. Ladder season began at the start of this year if I'm not wrong, so it's gone on for about 80 days. That's about 7.5 ladder games a day. Players practice like 10 hours a day and should play in excess of 40 games, but let's just assume 40 to account for days lost to attending live matches. So using these roughly estimated figures, we realise that less than 20% of games played by KeSPA progamers are on ladder.
Besides, people will only play standard builds or non-competitive builds on ladder to avoid revealing their secrets.
On March 20 2014 00:08 Shinokuki wrote: Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
KeSPA teams won't allow their players to stream as it's unprofessional. Do you see football players streaming their practice sessions? No, because it gives away their strategies. Even back in the BW days, only retired players would stream.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
On March 19 2014 23:59 ReMinD_ wrote: 68/70 ? I call bs
Yeah, 69/70 would've been more believable.
On a side note, I remember that in one of the Broodwar interviews, a KT player (HoeJJa if I remember correctly) said that if you practice against Flash, you will forget how it's like to win.
Haha, in that episode, they say he's unbeatable in practice, but when the television cameras are rolling, he loses against Protoss. This is all too familiar.
The only people Nal_ra beat were Yellow Nada and Flash lol, 17 golds and 14 silvers between them, 12-10 if you only count MSL/OSL.
On March 20 2014 00:08 Shinokuki wrote: Annnnnd i still dont see any sc2 on korea's biggest streaming site: afreeca. 158 k viewers is really good but i stil dont get why sc2 can not even crack top ten in afreeca
well it's rank 7 atm and some dude told me most of the GSL viewers watch via Gom's site with 1080p quality or something. But there really aren't too many SC2 streamers (popular ones at least) on afreeca
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