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Oz and Revival Interviews: Road to IEM Katowice

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IEM World Championship 2014: Pre-tournament Interviews

Oz and Revival — MaNa and Nerchio — StarDust and San — jjakji and TaeJa
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IEM Season 8
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The $100,000 Dollar Men:
Revival and Oz

Interviews by Waxangel

On March 13th, some of the best StarCraft 2 players in the world will gather in Katowice, Poland for a shot at winning the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship and its $100,000 grand prize. Not just the grand prize, but only prize.

IEM's decision to make the World Championship winner-take-all has been controversial, with some fans eagerly anticipating the heightened stakes, and other fans angered by the inequitable distribution of prizes.

But what do the players think? We begin our pre-Katowice interview series with two ex-Evil Geniuses players in (Z)Revival and (P)Oz.

Interviews have been edited and condensed.

CMStorm_Revival

"If I get second place at IEM Katowice, I'm only half kidding when I say I might never be able to play again?"

We haven't seen much of you since the WCS Global Finals last year. How have you been?
I left Evil Geniuses after BlizzCon, so I was busy looking for a new team. Of course, I practiced a lot while I was looking.

Was it tough practicing while you didn't have a team? How's your skill level ahead of IEM Katowice?
Since I was playing by myself without anyone to direct me, I was really able to feel myself getting lazy. Lately I've gotten myself back in gear and have been practicing hard. I'm nervous ahead of a big tournament like IEM, and I'm also nervous because I haven't been to a foreign tournament in a while. Still, if I can keep practicing like I am now, I think I'm capable of going all the way to the championship, though it will be difficult.

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You're qualified for the IEM World Championship because you took first place at IEM Shanghai, a tourney that took place quite a while ago. How did you feel when you heard that the World Championship would be winner-take-all for $100,000?
I don't think the format of giving all the prize money to the winner is that good. I mean, it's true that people only remember the champion, but shouldn't second place get a bit of prize money, too? I think most progamers would agree with me. It's too much of a difference.

How do you think you'd feel if you came in second?
Well, the prize difference between first and second is big in the GSL as well, and I've always thought that the GSL runner up must feel sad.

If I get second place at IEM Katowice, I'm only half kidding when I say I might never be able to play again?

You joined CMStorm recently. How'd that come about?
CMStorm contacted me first, but I declined to join on the conditions they offered initially. But they kept contacting me and tried to offer me conditions that were the best for me. In addition, the manager treated me very well, so I decided to join.

Along with aLive and Oz, you weren't able to re-sign with Evil Geniuses despite getting pretty good results. What did you think when that happened?
Personally, I expected that since I won a championship and took second place in another tournament (WCS America Season 1), re-signing would go smoothly. However, the conditions I was offered were so bad that I just declined and left the team. I always try to think about the position of the person on the other side, and I fully understood EG's position as well. I achieved good results on EG, so I'm thankful to them.

Marketability seems to matter more than skill in the foreign StarCraft 2 scene. Do you plan to promote yourself more on your new team?
Honestly, I do feel that being a star matters more than skill in the foreign scene. Of course, nothing would be better than to have both qualities.

I'm not sure - from my standpoint I think skill is more important. I have to be skilled to achieve my dreams, and I think being skilled is what will earn me popularity and make a star. Of course, teams and sponsors think skill is important as well, but I think there are a lot of places that put a bigger focus on star power.

There's been a lot of talk about Protoss being OP lately. With so many Protoss players competing at IEM, what do you think about your chances against them?
Protoss has been nerfed to some degree lately, and Hydras have got a little bit better. Even so, I still I think Protoss is strong.

It's a relief that vs. Protoss has become a lot more playable than before. I'm confident.

Any players you are worried about or would want to avoid?
I think everyone is a difficult opponent and a good player. If I had to pick, I'd say all of the Protoss players will be tough opponents.

This will be the first European tournament you compete at. Anything you want to do outside of the tournament?
I've really wanted to go to Europe in the past but I haven't been able to, only going to the USA a lot. I've always wanted to go to countries like Spain, France, Germany, etc. and just walk around the streets and see the architecture, try the food, and feel the local culture. Of course, I'm excited to be able to go Poland now.

Will we see you at many more foreign tournaments now that you've joined CMStorm?
Yes, I plan to go to a lot foreign tournaments. I'm starving for a championship, so I want to go to a lot of tournaments and win high placements.

Anything you want to say to conclude?
I want to play games I won't regret at IEM. Even if I lose, I want to do my best so I don't have any regrets. Also, thanks to CMStorm for supporting me, and thanks to everyone who cheers for me!


You can follow Revival @CMStormRevival


Oz

"I hoped that if we were all on one team, it would be more of a family atmosphere. I think that was kind of lacking. As if we had just signed contracts, obeyed the conditions of the contract, and were two separate entities outside that."

We've barely seen you since the WCS Season 3 Finals in Canada. What have you been up to?
It feels like I've been forgotten ever since I couldn't re-sign with EG and ended up teamless.

As always, I've been practicing hard. As soon as I left EG, Incredible Miracle head coach Hirai took care of me and allowed me to stay at the IM house and practice there. Though I don't have a team, I've continued on with the same kind of lifestyle.

So you'll be in good condition for the IEM World Championship?
Yes, I've been keeping up with my practice and been living the same way as other players, so it shouldn't be any different from other tournaments I've played at.

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Were you looking this far ahead when you took second place at IEM Shanghai? How did you feel when it was announced that the $100,000 prize would go solely to the winner?
I think that was my first IEM tournament, I just learned later that I'd have a chance to compete at the World Championship.

One day I woke up and HerO was telling me "Hyung, the IEM prize money is $100,000. They're only giving prize money to the winner." I thought he was joking for sure.

I was surprised, and I thought it was pretty bad for the players. Players practice so hard for a single tournament, and I felt negatively about only one player being rewarded for his effort. However, it does have some merit in terms of drawing interest as an esport. It just feels kind of disappointing for the players.

Some players like MC and PartinG actually reacted positively. Do you think players as a whole didn't like the choice?
I don't know, I think it depends on the individual.

You've taken second place in two tournaments in the past. How would you feel if you took second place at IEM?
Players joke around about IEM, saying that the runner-up is going to have to retire. That he would take that much mental damage.

If I took second place, I think it would be really tough on me. In other tournaments, the runner-up gets encouragement. People say "You were so close!" or "Good games, you played well." If ended up taking second place at IEM, I think I'd prefer if no one said anything to me at all and just left me alone, lol.

There's a lot of Protoss players competing at IEM. How do you feel about your PvP?
I've never lacked confidence in PvP. Even if I lose in practice, things seem to work out well for me in tournaments. I'm looking forward to this tournament because there's a lot of Protoss players and few Zergs.

Did the recent balance patch change the game a lot?
I think it was a terrible patch. Because of the MSC vision nerf, Protoss lost their way to scout Terran in TvP. Robotics facility has become a must, mines have become too strong against Zealots, and Protoss has been forced into making colossi. Lately, everyone has been using blink stalkers and colossi, and I think you'll see the Protoss players play very similarly to each other in the tournament. It wasn't wrong to nerf Protoss, but I'm disappointed in the way Protoss was nerfed.

There's a joke on TeamLiquid.net that originates from you. You once said "PvP is not a coin flip, it's about skill," and your record immediately got worse afterward. Ever since then we've noticed a pattern of players who say PvP is a skill game instantly getting worse. What do you think about that?
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

It's not a complete rock-scissor-paper relationship, but build order fights play a big part. It's true that if you're on the wrong end of the build order fight, then a gap opens up. In PvP, I think the most important thing is playing mind games with your opponent, and winning the build order fight.

Even in PvT or PvZ, where the flow of the game can go back and forth regardless of your starting build, the build you choose first is still very important. That's why I think it's correct to look at the ability to choose builds as skill. Knowing how a player likes to play, how he likes to follow-up certain plays, watching VODs to analyze all of that and tailor builds accordingly - I think all of that is skill.

I guess now that I've said PvP is a matter of skill, I'll lose if I face a Protoss at IEM.

You teamed up with a manager lately. How's the process of finding a team going?
After I became teamless, I wanted to find a new team quickly so I looked around and met with a lot of teams. However, none of the teams gave me the feeling that they really needed me.

As a part of big teams like Evil Geniuses or Fnatic in the past, I always got this feeling, how to put it... Obviously the players and the coaching staff had come together for business reasons, but I hoped that if we were all on one team, it would be more of a family atmosphere. I think that was kind of lacking. As if we had just signed contracts, obeyed the conditions of the contract, and were two separate entities outside that.

I was a bit disappointed in that, so this time around I want to look for a team that really wants me and is like a family, regardless of the size. So I'm going about looking for a new team very carefully.

Okay, any final comments ahead of IEM?
I haven't competed at many tournaments and have been without a team, so I haven't had many chances to talk to the fans. Starting with IEM, and WCS after that, I want to put on my best face for the fans. Also, I think there might be good news about finding a team.

Playing as a teamless player I've felt the need to interact with the fans, so I'm planning on streaming. Instead of just laddering like other players, I want to try and plan a stream where I can interact with my fans. So please keep cheering for me!


You can follow Oz @SC2Oz

Interviews: Waxangel
Photos: ESL
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
March 10 2014 11:15 GMT
#2
Great interviews.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 11:21 GMT
#3
Haha Wax you cursed his PvP again!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 10 2014 11:22 GMT
#4
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

nooo Oz why?!!?!
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Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 11:24:35
March 10 2014 11:23 GMT
#5
Thanks for the interviews Waxangel. Oz seems so fucking cool. I was a bit worried about him, seeing as he is still teamless, but I'm glad to hear that it seems like he is comfortable at the IM house for the time being.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 10 2014 11:27 GMT
#6
Imagine if those 2 meet in the finals. It would be the best finals ever.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 11:28 GMT
#7
On March 10 2014 20:22 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

nooo Oz why?!!?!



Also why do you have a Startale flair
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 10 2014 11:29 GMT
#8
On March 10 2014 20:28 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 20:22 Shellshock wrote:
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

nooo Oz why?!!?!



Also why do you have a Startale flair

Why not? I like Curious
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 11:34 GMT
#9
On March 10 2014 20:29 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 20:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 10 2014 20:22 Shellshock wrote:
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

nooo Oz why?!!?!



Also why do you have a Startale flair

Why not? I like Curious

Cool yo

Back on topic I like Revival's comments about the idea of Skill or marketability making a star.
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Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
March 10 2014 11:57 GMT
#10
From the way he phrased things, Liquid'Oz would be the most ideal situation for the Protoss player. I do wonder if Liquid is in any capacity to acquire more players.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 10 2014 12:05 GMT
#11
Oz looking for a family atmosphere... LiquidOz incoming
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#12
good interviews actually, thats not very common
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 10 2014 12:29 GMT
#13
IMOz please. That would be very nice.
Long live the King of Wings
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
March 10 2014 12:41 GMT
#14
Oz is a great player, really want to see more of him.
Liked him a lot before he joined eg
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
March 10 2014 13:26 GMT
#15
I wonder why Liquid won't pick up Oz . He is a great player and yearns for a family atmosphere plus he has all the qualities of a Liquid player
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
March 10 2014 14:09 GMT
#16
On March 10 2014 20:27 NovaMB wrote:
Imagine if those 2 meet in the finals. It would be the best finals ever.

It would almost be as good as the IEM Shanghai fina- Oh wait.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 10 2014 14:35 GMT
#17
On March 10 2014 20:28 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 20:22 Shellshock wrote:
LOL. I haven't stopped thinking that PvP is about skill.

nooo Oz why?!!?!



Also why do you have a Startale flair

WTF NO
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
March 10 2014 15:17 GMT
#18
Yes. That's true. Oz suits Liquid and vice versa
Less is more.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 10 2014 15:18 GMT
#19
Oz is a family man, nice
jjakji fan
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1238 Posts
March 10 2014 15:19 GMT
#20
so this time around I want to look for a team that really wants me and is like a family, regardless of the size


Liquid pls
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
March 10 2014 16:06 GMT
#21
seems like the IM house is taking in a lot of players, HerO and Oz, maybe some other players that I don't remember. I wonder how they find the space to cram in so many players into a single team house. I don't think Startale players are staying at the IM house too.
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
March 10 2014 16:13 GMT
#22
On March 10 2014 23:09 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 20:27 NovaMB wrote:
Imagine if those 2 meet in the finals. It would be the best finals ever.

It would almost be as good as the IEM Shanghai fina- Oh wait.


well I think most people will say that the favorites to get to the finals will be TaeJa, sOs, Life, herO.... maybe Rogue? basically, the guys that play on WCS KR and Proleague.

speaking of a soul crushing 2nd place finishes, I think this one would be devastating for JD if he got 2nd place. I hope it doesn't happen to him, but it would make for an epic Kong line story.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 10 2014 17:11 GMT
#23
The way these two talk about it, EG kind of sounds like a cold place.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 17:24 GMT
#24
On March 11 2014 02:11 stuchiu wrote:
The way these two talk about it, EG kind of sounds like a cold place.

I imagine it was after they closed the EGTL house
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
March 10 2014 17:27 GMT
#25
Pretty sure these people will have a look at how poker dealt with large prize pools and strike some sort of deal, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Oz got in by beating HerO... That tells you how long a starcraft year is, and how much can happen.
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
March 10 2014 17:33 GMT
#26
These were really good interviews. I liked them both. Thanks Wax.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 17:36 GMT
#27
On March 11 2014 02:27 Nebuchad wrote:
Pretty sure these people will have a look at how poker dealt with large prize pools and strike some sort of deal, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Oz got in by beating HerO... That tells you how long a starcraft year is, and how much can happen.

Actually Oz has always had HerO's number! He is pretty darn good at PvP when he's not cursing himself
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
March 10 2014 18:26 GMT
#28
oz and liquid seem to be a match made in heaven, an liquid could still need a little bit of bolstering in their non-zerg lineup.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#29
I really like Revival's comments on star power being valued over skill in the foreign scene, as well as Oz's explanation of how he is searching for a new team with a more close-knit atmosphere. Hoping for the best for both players
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 10 2014 20:06 GMT
#30
Really nice interviews. Thanks, Wax! Oz sounds like a cool dude, I hope he finds a nice team.

And like someone before me said, the IM house is taking in a lot of dudes...
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Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 10 2014 20:10 GMT
#31
Honestly, I do feel that being a star matters more than skill in the foreign scene.


Sad but true
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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
March 10 2014 20:18 GMT
#32
Really interesting and entertaing interviews. Thanks for them wax!

How cool would it be to have an interview with everyone before IEM, kinda like Blizzcon.
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
March 10 2014 22:09 GMT
#33
Nice interviews.

Not the best PR for Evil Geniuses, but in a way not very surprising either.
karaokesalesman
Profile Joined October 2013
United States13 Posts
March 10 2014 22:23 GMT
#34
Oz is the best. GO OZ
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Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
March 10 2014 22:25 GMT
#35
awesome
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 10 2014 22:29 GMT
#36
"Some players like MC and PartinG actually reacted positively. Do you think players as a whole didn't like the choice?
I don't know, I think it depends on the individual."


Lol that's because they both think they're gonna win it. And MC probably has a high chance, historically speaking :D
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 10 2014 22:32 GMT
#37
lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure.
JD, need I say more? :D
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
March 10 2014 22:51 GMT
#38
On March 11 2014 07:32 LimeNade wrote:
lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure.

That's a very ruthless mentality. The reality of the situation is that out of the 16 players in attendance, 15 of them will be walking away with $0 in prize money. That sucks. Obviously, all of them will be looking to win the tournament, but it's not defeatist to keep in mind that there are 15 other good players trying to do the same, and the odds are you probably won't win.

Jaedong may have little care for the prize structure because he's already one of the richest individuals in esports, he can afford to not win any money at this tournament. The same could be said for MC and PartinG, the two players mentioned who were enthusiastic about the prize structure. For the rest of the lineup, it's a different story.

The winner take all prize structure is flat out bad for the players. It's only there to to interest viewers, to artificially create hype for a tournament that would otherwise have had to rely on the promise of good games by good players to entice viewers.
Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
March 10 2014 23:03 GMT
#39

I was a bit disappointed in that, so this time around I want to look for a team that really wants me and is like a family, regardless of the size. So I'm going about looking for a new team very carefully.


Aw, good luck getting a team, Oz
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 10 2014 23:07 GMT
#40
On March 11 2014 05:10 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Honestly, I do feel that being a star matters more than skill in the foreign scene.


Sad but true


ftfy

(I know it's your opinion, not mine). Seriously, stardom is great for attracting sponsors and stuff. Reality displayed a huge amount of skill in his kind-of-legendary game vs. soulkey, but who the hell cared for him? If I was to put up a perfect example of stardom and skill, I'd have to bite my tongue and say "PartinG". On foreigner site, there's maybe Stephano/Scarlett (come at me, naniwa fanboys). Take away all the stardom and you basically have that "faceless korean" thingy as a standard.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
March 10 2014 23:10 GMT
#41
Oz still sticking to his guns on PvP, gotta love it
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 10 2014 23:15 GMT
#42
On March 11 2014 07:32 LimeNade wrote:
lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure.


If that kind of thinking harmed their performance, these players wouldn't even be in Esports. I'm pretty sure Jaedong and MC are the only players attending the grand finals that have earned enough money to even justify their careers.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 10 2014 23:21 GMT
#43
On March 11 2014 08:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On March 11 2014 07:32 LimeNade wrote:
lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure.


If that kind of thinking harmed their performance, these players wouldn't even be in Esports. I'm pretty sure Jaedong and MC are the only players attending the grand finals that have earned enough money to even justify their careers.

Eh I disagree with that. Polt/HerO/Leenock have all made over 200k from tournament winnings in about three years of playing careers, which isn't a bad income at all. Taeja is also close to the 200k mark from tournaments. Naniwa is over 150k from tournaments. I think that amount of money makes it worth it, keeping in mind that those numbers do not include salaries from teams and the like.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 10 2014 23:58 GMT
#44
On March 11 2014 08:21 Darkhorse wrote:
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On March 11 2014 08:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:32 LimeNade wrote:
lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure.


If that kind of thinking harmed their performance, these players wouldn't even be in Esports. I'm pretty sure Jaedong and MC are the only players attending the grand finals that have earned enough money to even justify their careers.

Eh I disagree with that. Polt/HerO/Leenock have all made over 200k from tournament winnings in about three years of playing careers, which isn't a bad income at all. Taeja is also close to the 200k mark from tournaments. Naniwa is over 150k from tournaments. I think that amount of money makes it worth it, keeping in mind that those numbers do not include salaries from teams and the like.

Huh, that's true. Guess I'd forgotten a lot of the qualified list. That is an unusually high number of the top earners, though.
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1015Fan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 01:24:21
March 11 2014 00:43 GMT
#45
On March 11 2014 07:29 shabby wrote:
"Some players like MC and PartinG actually reacted positively. Do you think players as a whole didn't like the choice?
I don't know, I think it depends on the individual."


Lol that's because they both think they're gonna win it. And MC probably has a high chance, historically speaking :D


Parting also has a high chance, with recent skill level speaking :D (Unless he didn't qualify, havent checked about player pool)

This IEM tourney reminds me a lot about the whole winner's mentality thing. As a player, I've always thought that any time you play in any tournament, your goal should be to win, period. Players such as Naniwa and MVP(and Parting and MC ofc) seem to have this mentality, from what I've read in interviews.

MVP was asked something like "How did you win/keep winning" and responded "I don't know, I think I am just a winner."
Naniwa was asked the generic "Where do you think you will place/How high are you aiming for in *some old* tourney?" Naniwa said something along the lines of "Of course I am aiming to win the tourney, that is how a true player will answer every time."

I've never quite liked it when a player answers "Oh its a tough tourney, I'm aiming for ro8 or ro4 and I'll be happy." Just didn't seem like a great players mentality if you doubt your abilities.

However, this tourney is the first one that really forces those people who talk the talk to try and walk the walk, so it'll be very interesting to watch.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 01:11:18
March 11 2014 01:02 GMT
#46
On March 11 2014 09:43 1015Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:29 shabby wrote:
"Some players like MC and PartinG actually reacted positively. Do you think players as a whole didn't like the choice?
I don't know, I think it depends on the individual."


Lol that's because they both think they're gonna win it. And MC probably has a high chance, historically speaking :D


Parting also has a high chance, with recent skill level speaking :D

This IEM tourney reminds me a lot about the whole winner's mentality thing. As a player, I've always thought that any time you play in any tournament, your goal should be to win, period. Players such as Naniwa and MVP(and Parting and MC ofc) seem to have this mentality, from what I've read in interviews.

MVP was asked something like "How did you win/keep winning" and responded "I don't know, I think I am just a winner."
Naniwa was asked the generic "Where do you think you will place/How high are you aiming for in *some old* tourney?" Naniwa said something along the lines of "Of course I am aiming to win the tourney, that is how a true player will answer every time."

I've never quite liked it when a player answers "Oh its a tough tourney, I'm aiming for ro8 or ro4 and I'll be happy." Just didn't seem like a great players mentality if you doubt your abilities.

However, this tourney is the first one that really forces those people who talk the talk to try and walk the walk, so it'll be very interesting to watch.

it sounds like you're putting too much of a correlation on a player's answers to interview questions and their actual mindset/composition while playing the game. of course every single player's goal is to win. having a realistic opinion about the strength of your competition doesn't mean you're afraid or mentally unprepared. in fact, not being able to identify that you're going up against a lot of really strong opponents could make you more likely to lose

saying "i'd be happy with ro8" doesn't mean "well, i don't have the confidence to beat 7 of these players, i give up." what you're asking for isn't real "confidence," it's just lip service to fans who want to create a narrative about a player's fighting spirit

and concerns about the prize pool actually have nothing to do with "oh, i'm really afraid i won't be able to take the top prize" and everything to do with "oh, being a professional computer gamer isn't actually very lucrative, so if i invest a lot in training and travel for a tournament and gain absolutely nothing i might not be able to continue with gaming". conveniently enough, revival LITERALLY said this in the interview in the OP...

winner's mentality is a real thing IMO, sure, but it's more like "winners are a little less likely to choke out in high-pressure situations or make stupid mistakes" and not so much "naniwa wanted to win 0.03% more than revival did, he had the burning passion!". if any of the players going to IEM weren't winners they wouldn't be going to IEM
Predguin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada188 Posts
March 11 2014 01:09 GMT
#47
I always thought Oz would make a great Liquid player. I hope he finds a team soon ;_;
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
March 11 2014 01:23 GMT
#48
LiquidOz confirmed
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thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
March 11 2014 01:53 GMT
#49
fkn awesome interview, thanks guys
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 03:02:24
March 11 2014 03:00 GMT
#50
HerO should just drop out of the tournament. He has the potential to win the whole thing, but he's too prone to mental breakdowns. After seeing his facebook status from losing WCS AM Ro32, this tournament isn't right for him. -_-

https://www.facebook.com/hyeondeok.song.3/posts/607769035974325?stream_ref=10
Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
March 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#51
They say it's winner take all, but second place gets 800 WCS points. That's not so shabby.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 11 2014 09:29 GMT
#52
Nice interviews, I kind of loved Oz's reaction to the PvP curse part but also his rationalization on how to make the BO war work for you, to bad he jinxed himself again.

Also, damn, IM literally saving eSports.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
March 11 2014 11:02 GMT
#53
LiquidOz PLS
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iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
March 11 2014 11:28 GMT
#54
Great interviews! (Really good translation too!)

I really hope Oz finds a good team soon. Seems like a really nice guy.

I wish them both luck in Katowice, especially since they seem like underdogs. How sick would it be if one of them won against someone like Parting in the finals? :D
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
March 12 2014 17:32 GMT
#55
well conducted interviews, I had a pleasent read
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