EPTOz and Revival Interviews: Road to IEM Katowice - Page 3
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23417 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 11 2014 07:32 LimeNade wrote: lol all these players with defeatist mentalities of worrying about not making money if not coming in first. No one is forcing them to attend this tournament and I can guarantee you a player like Jaedong who is entering into the tourney only cares about getting that 1st place finish with little regards to the prize structure. If that kind of thinking harmed their performance, these players wouldn't even be in Esports. I'm pretty sure Jaedong and MC are the only players attending the grand finals that have earned enough money to even justify their careers. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 11 2014 08:15 WolfintheSheep wrote: If that kind of thinking harmed their performance, these players wouldn't even be in Esports. I'm pretty sure Jaedong and MC are the only players attending the grand finals that have earned enough money to even justify their careers. Eh I disagree with that. Polt/HerO/Leenock have all made over 200k from tournament winnings in about three years of playing careers, which isn't a bad income at all. Taeja is also close to the 200k mark from tournaments. Naniwa is over 150k from tournaments. I think that amount of money makes it worth it, keeping in mind that those numbers do not include salaries from teams and the like. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 11 2014 08:21 Darkhorse wrote: Eh I disagree with that. Polt/HerO/Leenock have all made over 200k from tournament winnings in about three years of playing careers, which isn't a bad income at all. Taeja is also close to the 200k mark from tournaments. Naniwa is over 150k from tournaments. I think that amount of money makes it worth it, keeping in mind that those numbers do not include salaries from teams and the like. Huh, that's true. Guess I'd forgotten a lot of the qualified list. That is an unusually high number of the top earners, though. | ||
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1015Fan
United States86 Posts
On March 11 2014 07:29 shabby wrote: "Some players like MC and PartinG actually reacted positively. Do you think players as a whole didn't like the choice? I don't know, I think it depends on the individual." Lol that's because they both think they're gonna win it. And MC probably has a high chance, historically speaking :D Parting also has a high chance, with recent skill level speaking :D (Unless he didn't qualify, havent checked about player pool) This IEM tourney reminds me a lot about the whole winner's mentality thing. As a player, I've always thought that any time you play in any tournament, your goal should be to win, period. Players such as Naniwa and MVP(and Parting and MC ofc) seem to have this mentality, from what I've read in interviews. MVP was asked something like "How did you win/keep winning" and responded "I don't know, I think I am just a winner." Naniwa was asked the generic "Where do you think you will place/How high are you aiming for in *some old* tourney?" Naniwa said something along the lines of "Of course I am aiming to win the tourney, that is how a true player will answer every time." I've never quite liked it when a player answers "Oh its a tough tourney, I'm aiming for ro8 or ro4 and I'll be happy." Just didn't seem like a great players mentality if you doubt your abilities. However, this tourney is the first one that really forces those people who talk the talk to try and walk the walk, so it'll be very interesting to watch. | ||
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Waise
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On March 11 2014 09:43 1015Fan wrote: Parting also has a high chance, with recent skill level speaking :D This IEM tourney reminds me a lot about the whole winner's mentality thing. As a player, I've always thought that any time you play in any tournament, your goal should be to win, period. Players such as Naniwa and MVP(and Parting and MC ofc) seem to have this mentality, from what I've read in interviews. MVP was asked something like "How did you win/keep winning" and responded "I don't know, I think I am just a winner." Naniwa was asked the generic "Where do you think you will place/How high are you aiming for in *some old* tourney?" Naniwa said something along the lines of "Of course I am aiming to win the tourney, that is how a true player will answer every time." I've never quite liked it when a player answers "Oh its a tough tourney, I'm aiming for ro8 or ro4 and I'll be happy." Just didn't seem like a great players mentality if you doubt your abilities. However, this tourney is the first one that really forces those people who talk the talk to try and walk the walk, so it'll be very interesting to watch. it sounds like you're putting too much of a correlation on a player's answers to interview questions and their actual mindset/composition while playing the game. of course every single player's goal is to win. having a realistic opinion about the strength of your competition doesn't mean you're afraid or mentally unprepared. in fact, not being able to identify that you're going up against a lot of really strong opponents could make you more likely to lose saying "i'd be happy with ro8" doesn't mean "well, i don't have the confidence to beat 7 of these players, i give up." what you're asking for isn't real "confidence," it's just lip service to fans who want to create a narrative about a player's fighting spirit and concerns about the prize pool actually have nothing to do with "oh, i'm really afraid i won't be able to take the top prize" and everything to do with "oh, being a professional computer gamer isn't actually very lucrative, so if i invest a lot in training and travel for a tournament and gain absolutely nothing i might not be able to continue with gaming". conveniently enough, revival LITERALLY said this in the interview in the OP... winner's mentality is a real thing IMO, sure, but it's more like "winners are a little less likely to choke out in high-pressure situations or make stupid mistakes" and not so much "naniwa wanted to win 0.03% more than revival did, he had the burning passion!". if any of the players going to IEM weren't winners they wouldn't be going to IEM | ||
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Predguin
Canada188 Posts
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DBS
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thirtyapm
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
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Chvol
United States200 Posts
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Destructicon
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Also, damn, IM literally saving eSports. | ||
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Hadronsbecrazy
United Kingdom551 Posts
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iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
I really hope Oz finds a good team soon. Seems like a really nice guy. I wish them both luck in Katowice, especially since they seem like underdogs. How sick would it be if one of them won against someone like Parting in the finals? :D | ||
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Gene(S)is
Sweden419 Posts
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