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HyuN, Revival advance from Group C of WCS AM Ro32 - Page 2

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 26 2014 23:13 GMT
#21
I was expecting this one sooner whoop whoop.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
February 27 2014 02:16 GMT
#22
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2014 12:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:55 stuchiu wrote:
That was like watching Revival cross the street and then a car is about to hit him. Then BAM, the car explodes, but the debris are flying everywhere, but Revival fucking dodges only to hit his head into a fire hydrant. He then gets up and is mugged by guys with guns and is about to get shot but then one of the thugs backstabs his friends and Revival gets the fuck out of there, but is then chased by a pack of ravenous dogs. He crashes through a butcher shop, throws the meat at the ravenous dogs to only have the butcher try to stab him, only to have the previous thugs start shooting up the butcher and the police coming in to shoot the thugs. After surviving all of that Revival, walks home to only have a piano fall out of the sky and almost land on top of him until mutas swoop in from nowhere and die for him.





lols that's exactly what happened.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 27 2014 09:25 GMT
#23
That match was indeed incredible.

though you could smell byul's demise. his army was mobile and stuff but it couldn't win a straight up fight. should of droned and baneling'd.
maru lover forever
danmanjones
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand19 Posts
February 27 2014 10:08 GMT
#24
It was pretty epic considering Revival is currently teamless which places so much importance on that final game. I'm happy for him, didn't really have a dog in this fight tho tbh
Go Go Lee Jaedong!!
RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
February 27 2014 19:31 GMT
#25
On February 26 2014 16:22 Drake wrote:
watched the game and didnt find it to epic (the zvz byul vs revival) i mean if he build no drones ... it was more thrown then epic comeback

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On February 26 2014 14:53 geokilla wrote:
Just saw the VOD... Oh God that was terrible to watch. I think it's time Blizzard reverses the Spore buff... That was just ridiculous.


aeh ... NO ? it was best they ever did
it was only muta vs muta before did you really forget that ? without that patch, the mutas would have instawin the game, and so revival would have gone mutas too so all we had was muta vs muta ...


I don't mind having Muta vs Muta, but I agree that the Spore change (however weird it'll always feel) was a good one (don't remember what else was changed in the patch, so I won't say the patch was good ).

It wasn't an issue of the Spores being too strong, it was the fact that Byul NEVER respected them. Hell, he never respected a lot of the AA damage that Revival had. Byul made a lot of bad decisions that game which cost him probably over 40 Mutas before the great flock suicide (this is probably a lower estimate, he only made Mutas and he lost like 1-3 each time he engaged a Spore, which was VERY often).

Honestly, if Byul made Roaches, or Infestors, or anything but Lings, he could've won. What the fuck are Lings and Mutas gonna do vs Roach/Hydra/Infestor?

If Byul didn't throw Mutas away at every chance, imagine what kind of army he could've made. Honestly, he could've just sat with Roaches and Mutas over Spine Crawlers and just let Revival lose his army trying to break it. There were so many Spine Crawlers. The game was nothing but 1 bad decision after another.
chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 01:30:17
February 28 2014 01:28 GMT
#26
ByuL's one big mistake was continuing to make mutalisks. It's common practice to switch from mutalisks to roaches/hydras/infestors once the opponent has infestors, otherwise, one fungal can cost you all your mutalisks. Revival didn't even have any upgrades, which makes it more surprising that ByuL did not switch to a ground army.
chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
February 28 2014 01:42 GMT
#27
On February 27 2014 02:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 26 2014 16:22 Drake wrote:
watched the game and didnt find it to epic (the zvz byul vs revival) i mean if he build no drones ... it was more thrown then epic comeback

On February 26 2014 14:53 geokilla wrote:
Just saw the VOD... Oh God that was terrible to watch. I think it's time Blizzard reverses the Spore buff... That was just ridiculous.


aeh ... NO ? it was best they ever did
it was only muta vs muta before did you really forget that ? without that patch, the mutas would have instawin the game, and so revival would have gone mutas too so all we had was muta vs muta ...

You don't get epic comebacks and amazing finales like that if the guy who's way ahead isn't throwing to some degree.

Pretty sure Drake's definition of epic differs from yours. I assume that Drake, like me, defines a game as epic if it is a back-and-forth game between two evenly matched players that display great skill, strategies, and decision making. The match between ByuL and Revival was full of mistakes. The skill, strategies, and decision making was all meh.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
February 28 2014 04:07 GMT
#28
Somewhere, Idra cringed as Byul lost all his ~45 mutas in 1 fight that lost him the game
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
February 28 2014 04:12 GMT
#29
On February 28 2014 04:31 RyLai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 16:22 Drake wrote:
watched the game and didnt find it to epic (the zvz byul vs revival) i mean if he build no drones ... it was more thrown then epic comeback

On February 26 2014 14:53 geokilla wrote:
Just saw the VOD... Oh God that was terrible to watch. I think it's time Blizzard reverses the Spore buff... That was just ridiculous.


aeh ... NO ? it was best they ever did
it was only muta vs muta before did you really forget that ? without that patch, the mutas would have instawin the game, and so revival would have gone mutas too so all we had was muta vs muta ...


I don't mind having Muta vs Muta, but I agree that the Spore change (however weird it'll always feel) was a good one (don't remember what else was changed in the patch, so I won't say the patch was good ).

It wasn't an issue of the Spores being too strong, it was the fact that Byul NEVER respected them. Hell, he never respected a lot of the AA damage that Revival had. Byul made a lot of bad decisions that game which cost him probably over 40 Mutas before the great flock suicide (this is probably a lower estimate, he only made Mutas and he lost like 1-3 each time he engaged a Spore, which was VERY often).

Honestly, if Byul made Roaches, or Infestors, or anything but Lings, he could've won. What the fuck are Lings and Mutas gonna do vs Roach/Hydra/Infestor?

If Byul didn't throw Mutas away at every chance, imagine what kind of army he could've made. Honestly, he could've just sat with Roaches and Mutas over Spine Crawlers and just let Revival lose his army trying to break it. There were so many Spine Crawlers. The game was nothing but 1 bad decision after another.

agreed. even silver league players learn how to avoid spores. you don't stick a fork in an electric socket twice. spore buff was silly but it fixed a problem which we now no longer have. and i don't mind having muta vs muta either, which is fine because we STILL have muta vs muta but it isn't dominating and deadening the matchup
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
February 28 2014 21:54 GMT
#30
My god, that game was glorious

Thanks for showcasing it. Probably deserves an honorable mention in the games to remember of 2014
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 01 2014 01:05 GMT
#31
The only thing I can think of is Byul didn't see all the Spores in that base because of the overlord curtain it had. Nothing else make sense to me.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 01 2014 02:15 GMT
#32
phew could have missed something epic there yay that it was so weird that it got a special mention. And I had flashbacks to BW, the indecision when a Protoss saw a floating terran building over a choke in the early game and knew Vultures were out. Really clever play by Revival, don't really get why they were so bothered by no upgrades. Range is no advantage against Mutas and so is speed. Revival basically setup traps the whole game and the last trap did work.
Byul was just afraid to switch away from the cheapest unit out there if you have a low drone count but enough extractors. He probably thought he is dead if he stops containing Revival and I think he was right on that after the baneling attack failed because he didn't notice the hydra burrow. But only Byul knows what went through his mind, especially since he had a different vision in the game then observers.
Wonder why he got +1 flyer armor though, he probably planned to get enough Mutas and fly over the Hydras and massacre them.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
March 01 2014 12:41 GMT
#33
On February 28 2014 13:07 Shinespark wrote:
Somewhere, Idra cringed as Byul lost all his ~45 mutas in 1 fight that lost him the game

No, Idra cringed because he would have ragequit the game if he was Revival 20 minutes earlier and never had a chance to win it,
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