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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 06:32:51
February 27 2014 06:31 GMT
#281
On February 27 2014 15:01 opterown wrote:
how often do tiebreakers come into play? i imagine people aren't that scutinizingly concerned about their rank in that way. currently, it seems that more often than putting someone as your captain provides more harm than good, and i think general consensus agrees.

and with PL the aim is not for the most balanced team, it's for the best team full stop. there are many people who won rounds in the first SC2PL simply by KT-allinning, which is hardly balanced and a huge gamble.

Last round, a one pointer KT player could be traded for a better player at the end. In fact, if you choose a one pointer on a team that wins almost all their matches, you are very likely to be able to trade him for a better player, who actually plays, during the last week.

With the current system, even if any one of your players decides to slump, you can still pull up the team with the rest. With the proposed new captain system, one of your players definitely has to do very well, if not you're dead. The proposed new captain system makes the game more capricious and good strategies will become more susceptible to random fluctuations or variance in player performance. I.e. it increases the game's luck-factor to skill-factor ratio.

Furthermore, there are currently many viable strategies players have, such as picking a balanced team of all 4-6 pointers, or picking 2 heavy hitters worth 7-8 points while having 3 pointers for the rest, and all these strategies are possible to win with. But with the proposed new captain system, getting a heavy hitter for your captain is the only logical way to go. This reduces the total amount of viable strategic options and hence reduces the depth as well as fun of the game.

Also, in that round where KT-allinning was the best strat, the best players were also KT players, so even with the proposed new captain system, KT-allinning would still have won. It doesn't make a difference.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
February 27 2014 08:55 GMT
#282
A question about trades. Once you hit the "Trade" button - is that final? Or can you cancel that trade and continue making changes until the matches actually begin?
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
February 27 2014 08:59 GMT
#283
On February 27 2014 17:55 AlgeriaT wrote:
A question about trades. Once you hit the "Trade" button - is that final? Or can you cancel that trade and continue making changes until the matches actually begin?

You can always cancel and make changes until the trade timer expires.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 01 2014 01:53 GMT
#284
(P)Sora --> (Z)Sacsri
(Z)DRG --> (T)FanTaSy

(P)Squirtle --> (Z)Hydra

Not sure wtf I was thinking when I made my team, this should be better.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 01 2014 03:37 GMT
#285
Anyone has good suggestion on who to trade for bbyong and sora?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 01 2014 03:43 GMT
#286
Keep Bbyong, trade Sora --> Reality, Effort, or Sacsri.
Just my opinion, I had the same problem as you.
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Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 09:08:51
March 01 2014 08:48 GMT
#287
(P)Classic -> (T)TY
(P)herO[jOin] -> (T)FanTaSy

(Z)DRG -> (T)Cure

Ditching my toss lineup with only (P)Zest left to anchor it. I was torn between (T)MKP and (T)FanTaSy but went with (T)FanTaSy because he is better and on a better team and facing weak teams this week. (T)Cure for (Z)DRG because he plays 0 games and (Z)DRG plays 2.

EDIT:
Actually, just noticed I can do (Z)DRG -> (Z)Curious so I'm doing that instead.

EDIT2:
Or maybe I should do DRG -> Hydra... Not sure, what do you think?

EDIT3:
Think I'll go with Curious after all. Since his team plays 2 matches this week and Hydra's plays 1, his adjusted trade value should decay more, right?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 01 2014 08:56 GMT
#288
(T)Dream -> (T)GuMiho

Got screwed giving Dream yet another chance. I won't make that mistake again. Not many good trades for him except Gumiho, who might not even play. I think he can beat Flash if he does though, and down the line he could end up being one of CJ's mainstays.
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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 01 2014 13:10 GMT
#289
I can't decide if I should trade Classic for TY. They are both top quality players, but TY is 100% in all games, meanwhile SKT doesn't always play Classic. Tough choice.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 01 2014 20:14 GMT
#290
On March 01 2014 12:43 The_Templar wrote:
Keep Bbyong, trade Sora --> Reality, Effort, or Sacsri.
Just my opinion, I had the same problem as you.

How about Sora for True? He looks better than Effort or Sacsri, also I kinda want to trade DRG for Fantasy.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 01 2014 20:39 GMT
#291
On March 02 2014 05:14 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 12:43 The_Templar wrote:
Keep Bbyong, trade Sora --> Reality, Effort, or Sacsri.
Just my opinion, I had the same problem as you.

How about Sora for True? He looks better than Effort or Sacsri, also I kinda want to trade DRG for Fantasy.

Hmm, True might work out better. Didn't notice that one
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 01 2014 21:47 GMT
#292
On March 01 2014 17:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
(T)Dream -> (T)GuMiho

Got screwed giving Dream yet another chance. I won't make that mistake again. Not many good trades for him except Gumiho, who might not even play. I think he can beat Flash if he does though, and down the line he could end up being one of CJ's mainstays.

Yeah I'm thinking about trading Bbyong for Gumiho, or DRG for Fantasy.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 00:54:42
March 02 2014 00:50 GMT
#293
(T)Mvp for (T)Dream Anti Team
(P)Zest for (Z)Soulkey
(Z)DongRaeGu for (P)Hurricane

Looking to dodge some points with IM looking good this week hurts my heart that it has to be Dream ;;

Going balls out with trading away Zest, solid player but Soulkey could bring double the points!
DRG looking to have a really hard time this week could have gone with Fantasy but his matchups..holy cow.
Hurricane looked ok last week and have a good chance at taking some points this one too.

*note to self always trust your gut and pick your 1point as captain..stuck with herO as captain now.
The curse is real
Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
March 03 2014 12:03 GMT
#294
First time I ever doubted herO and I get punished for it :D
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 03 2014 12:14 GMT
#295
I am already +12 today.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 03 2014 12:30 GMT
#296
On March 01 2014 10:53 The_Templar wrote:
(P)Sora --> (Z)Sacsri
(Z)DRG --> (T)FanTaSy

(P)Squirtle --> (Z)Hydra

Not sure wtf I was thinking when I made my team, this should be better.

You thought esf>kespa
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SwansGoMoo
Profile Joined October 2011
United States145 Posts
March 03 2014 12:43 GMT
#297
On March 03 2014 21:03 Szgk wrote:
First time I ever doubted herO and I get punished for it :D

You and me both. Trading him for Trap seemed like a good idea after yesterday; now, I'm starting to think it really wasn't.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 03 2014 14:13 GMT
#298
Yeah DRG and True paid off, keeping bbyong too.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2014 14:22 GMT
#299
ehhh even though herO finally paid for himself today, sOs had to win too...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 14:26:36
March 03 2014 14:24 GMT
#300
Well today was good for me. Flash won, CJ Entus won, HerO won, so basically wonwonwon :D

Edit: when will the points be updated ? (sorry for asking this is my first FPL)
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