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IM and Startale to team up in Proleague Round 2 - Page 3

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:29:59
February 12 2014 09:29 GMT
#41
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.

hindsight is 20/20, TL made the right call in power ranking them as #1, it was expected for them to do well (they deserved at least top 3 in PR)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 09:32 GMT
#42
Wow, on one hand Life is in SPL and pretty much IM. On the other it's less fun since IM is growing further from its roots of developing players and is looking more like a squad of mercenaries these days
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33711 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:36:44
February 12 2014 09:34 GMT
#43
It doesn't improve IM's strength THAT much, considering a four player lineup. You're upgrading Byul-Trap-Protoss1-Protoss2 to what, Byul-Trap-Curious/Life-Protoss1? That's an upgrade, but not a SIGNIFICANT upgrade.

Honestly, I think the biggest benefit is actually improving the team's depth, so anyone competing in Code S/WCS Premier can be covered for.

Oh, and having Hack as a credible Terran threat who will ACTUALLY PLAY UNLIKE Mvp will help them do line-ups; especially in playoffs.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:37:53
February 12 2014 09:36 GMT
#44
Team Avengers. If we can't save esf, we will AVENGE IT!

*Nvm, Avenge retired. I hate the world.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 12 2014 09:36 GMT
#45
I bet shellbot will be happy about this
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12901 Posts
February 12 2014 09:38 GMT
#46
Life and mvp on same team.
This is gonna be awesome
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
February 12 2014 09:41 GMT
#47
life should make a significant difference in the points IM makes. having hack in there might do some good too as IM is quite bereft of terrans except for mvp. but really really this brings my hope of having a barbie vs aphrodite televised match coming into being that much closer. mwhahaha
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#48
Exciting news.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#49
well that's my favorite team ever now
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:46:56
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#50
On February 12 2014 18:41 rave[wcr] wrote:
life should make a significant difference in the points IM makes. having hack in there might do some good too as IM is quite bereft of terrans except for mvp. but really really this brings my hope of having a barbie vs aphrodite televised match coming into being that much closer. mwhahaha

Eve vs Aphrodite was enough for me
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 09:48 GMT
#51
On February 12 2014 18:36 stuchiu wrote:
Team Avengers. If we can't save esf, we will AVENGE IT!

*Nvm, Avenge retired. I hate the world.


I feel for you, that was a very sad day...
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
February 12 2014 09:49 GMT
#52
Good for Proleague, IM do need Zergs now but haven't they got too many players right now? IM could make good use of Life, Curious and Hack but ST still has quite a few players in their roster. Also, sad that both First and YoDa seem to have disappeared since deciding to play in WCS Europe...
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:50:06
February 12 2014 09:49 GMT
#53
Life in Proleague, my dream fulfilled
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:51:58
February 12 2014 09:50 GMT
#54
I wish Startale and Prime joined up instead tbh. The bickering between the fans would be interesting and we'd actually have another potentially competitive team in SPL.

IM only needed 1 or 2 more good signings to recover from the loss of Yoda, Losira, and First. They were already fine.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1433 Posts
February 12 2014 09:50 GMT
#55
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.

a bad practice regime doesn't mean shit if your roster is supposed to be class above the rest.

alas, they underperformed hardcore, and i don't really think that lack of practice was a factor since most of the players on the roster went on to have at least some (or a lot in the cases of taeja and JD) success in individual competition.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 12 2014 09:51 GMT
#56
This will SPICE THINGS UP.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 09:56 GMT
#57
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.


The TL writers did ok, they probably should have been a bit more conservative but again, hindsight is great.
The thing is, the that power rank was writen at a time when the quantifiable talent of EGTL was very well known and quite high at the time in comparison to that of KeSPA, which was totally unknown at the time.

We take it for granted now that KeSPA players are godlike and have basically caught up to everybody in skill, but back then the only players to have had good results where Rain with a WCS Asia gold and multiple high finishes, Flash with some good showings when he was invited, Soulkey on the ladder, Bogus with some GSL showings and ladder.

Everybody expected it would take the rest of KeSPA several more months to catch up in skill with everybody else, but their insane work ethic means they caught up in record time.
KeSPA teams experience in the PL format was also a large advantage, they analyzed and dissected EGTL on multiple occasion and gave them a lot of hard losses.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#58
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

They want to win...

huehuehuehue
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
February 12 2014 09:59 GMT
#59
I hope they have a chance!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 12 2014 10:00 GMT
#60
NICE !!!!!!
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