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IM and Startale to team up in Proleague Round 2

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
February 12 2014 09:00 GMT
#1
Source: Inven

Inven reports that Startale players will join Incredible Miracle to compete in Proleague's Round 2. Starting in Round 2, Startale players will compete in Proleague wearing IM uniforms. Inven also reports that Startale players are joining IM's team house at this time.

IM head coach Hirai said "Through round 1, we've cmopleted our adjustment to a new league. IM players are performing well in individual tournaments, and the addition of Startale players will make the team ever stronger."
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 12 2014 09:01 GMT
#2
RIP ST
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dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
February 12 2014 09:04 GMT
#3
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
February 12 2014 09:04 GMT
#4
HerO, Mvp and Life playing for the same team? Omg
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 12 2014 09:05 GMT
#5
this sounds to me like Startale is going to die, they're moving into IM's team house?
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
February 12 2014 09:05 GMT
#6
so basically only Life, Curious and Bomb... Oh wait
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Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
February 12 2014 09:06 GMT
#7
Wait....so IM going to bring in 3-4 more players so they can use the same 4 players in every ProLeague game again ? :S

Good move...if they play! But i can't see them playing due to IM Coach picked the same players most of games.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 12 2014 09:06 GMT
#8
Whaaaaaaat... Well, pity neither Startale nor IM can compete on their own, though I guess it'll help the players of those 2 teams elevate to better results. I wonder how big of an impact is it going to have on the overall standings, mostly of the lower part of the bracket of round 1, eg. Prime or MVP.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 12 2014 09:06 GMT
#9
They have unleashed a monster into proleague omg
Glorious SEA doto
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
February 12 2014 09:07 GMT
#10
With bo5 format, this is not very useful

Also, no redbull logo showing on screen
...
Quixotic_tv
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany130 Posts
February 12 2014 09:07 GMT
#11
Wow,

Life in PL, I am loving it ;D
Life always finds a way.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
February 12 2014 09:08 GMT
#12
On February 12 2014 18:01 opterown wrote:
RIP ST

[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
February 12 2014 09:08 GMT
#13
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.
dumchu
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
February 12 2014 09:08 GMT
#14
What the heck is this.

Sounds so weird. Living together, will wear the same uniforms, but still seperate teams? Very strange.

Fucking sick though, Life on the same team as Mvp just sounds so dope
EthanKairos
Profile Joined June 2012
Philippines65 Posts
February 12 2014 09:08 GMT
#15
Life in ProLeague? Holy shit. O_O
Now, I can change almost anything.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
February 12 2014 09:09 GMT
#16
Finally Life gets to play in Proleague. Can't wait!
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JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
February 12 2014 09:11 GMT
#17
Nice lineup now: ByuL, Curious, Life, Hack, MVP, Panic, Squirtle, Trap, YongHwa!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:13:47
February 12 2014 09:12 GMT
#18
AW YISSE !

Round 2 is IM's ! (Well, or maybe round 3, needing some time to adjust and blend).

Holy shit: HerO, Byul, Life, Trap, Squirtle, Yonghwa, Curious, that's a really decent line up ! (And that'd be awesome that a few names like Ruin, Panic, etc. take a few games as well ! )

Still lacks a really good terran (Mvp and teamleagues, well. Oh but if he manages to go on rampage, that'd be <3). I don't know Hack's current form though (but I don't really believe it's that great....)
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
February 12 2014 09:15 GMT
#19
THE HOLY ALLIANCE
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Baadbeat
Profile Joined June 2011
France203 Posts
February 12 2014 09:15 GMT
#20
ST players going to the IM house? This can't be good for the survival of ST, but IM absorbing ST would just make the roster of IM HUGE! Anyway IM is now a strong contender in PL! But in BO7s a huge roster won't change much!
ratty
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand275 Posts
February 12 2014 09:16 GMT
#21
siiiiick
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 09:17 GMT
#22
Oh snap, that's massive, lots of implications to this as well. However as others have mentioned, its too bad that in a BO5 format they won't be able to take full advantage of the roster size. Still they could do some huge prep work and sniping strategies.

Hopefully this doesn't mean that ST is going to implode.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:17:55
February 12 2014 09:17 GMT
#23
Eh, IM have too many players now . Startale + Soul + Prime would have been a nice team.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 12 2014 09:19 GMT
#24
psh who needs it, mvp already has a perfect record in proleague.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 12 2014 09:19 GMT
#25
This is gonna be one tough team
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 12 2014 09:21 GMT
#26
Incredible Mercs. Now they are gonna start with Trap/HerO/Life/Panic?
Dont quite understand this move since ByuL is already very promising and they already got 15 decent protosses. Maybe they just couldnt acquire Life straight-up
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 12 2014 09:21 GMT
#27
no seriously i don't know how ST is going to not die/get absorbed o.O
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stefantheterran
Profile Joined December 2013
Austria61 Posts
February 12 2014 09:21 GMT
#28
Interesting... IM becoming huge in roster numbers, which could mean that some players will be cut. But then again, who knows if this is permanent or just temporary.

It is interesting though, I thought Startale was strongly sponsored, but maybe that's just Life.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 12 2014 09:21 GMT
#29
STIM!
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 12 2014 09:22 GMT
#30
Wow, that makes for some pretty powerful players.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 12 2014 09:23 GMT
#31
LIFEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 12 2014 09:23 GMT
#32
On February 12 2014 18:21 GTPGlitch wrote:
STIM!

to the win!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 12 2014 09:24 GMT
#33
Seems like a weird move to me. StarTale only has 3 very good and 2 kinda good players who could be used in PL, but only one of them is terran. Hack, Mvp, UngNim. Not a very good terran line-up tbh.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:25:09
February 12 2014 09:24 GMT
#34
Startale... but STIM does sound better than PrimeST.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 12 2014 09:25 GMT
#35
On February 12 2014 18:21 Arceus wrote:
Incredible Mercs. Now they are gonna start with Trap/HerO/Life/Panic?
Dont quite understand this move since ByuL is already very promising and they already got 15 decent protosses. Maybe they just couldnt acquire Life straight-up

Trap is not a mercenary, he joined IM for real.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
February 12 2014 09:26 GMT
#36
With IM and Startale as my two favorite teams during the days of ESF, I like this. I like this a lot.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
February 12 2014 09:27 GMT
#37
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

you may not know this, but ST and Prime aren't on the best terms regarding liking each other i'd imagine.

also ST wants their players to have success. Prime won't have success. IM will probably have some success.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 12 2014 09:27 GMT
#38
Life in PL? Finally a reason for me to watch.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:29:06
February 12 2014 09:28 GMT
#39
On February 12 2014 18:27 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

you may not know this, but ST and Prime aren't on the best terms regarding liking each other i'd imagine.

also ST wants their players to have success. Prime won't have success. IM will probably have some success.

lol the current startale and the current prime have hardly any history with each other at all, i'm sure it's more of a funding issue than anything else that ST joined IM
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
February 12 2014 09:29 GMT
#40
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:29:59
February 12 2014 09:29 GMT
#41
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.

hindsight is 20/20, TL made the right call in power ranking them as #1, it was expected for them to do well (they deserved at least top 3 in PR)
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 09:32 GMT
#42
Wow, on one hand Life is in SPL and pretty much IM. On the other it's less fun since IM is growing further from its roots of developing players and is looking more like a squad of mercenaries these days
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:36:44
February 12 2014 09:34 GMT
#43
It doesn't improve IM's strength THAT much, considering a four player lineup. You're upgrading Byul-Trap-Protoss1-Protoss2 to what, Byul-Trap-Curious/Life-Protoss1? That's an upgrade, but not a SIGNIFICANT upgrade.

Honestly, I think the biggest benefit is actually improving the team's depth, so anyone competing in Code S/WCS Premier can be covered for.

Oh, and having Hack as a credible Terran threat who will ACTUALLY PLAY UNLIKE Mvp will help them do line-ups; especially in playoffs.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:37:53
February 12 2014 09:36 GMT
#44
Team Avengers. If we can't save esf, we will AVENGE IT!

*Nvm, Avenge retired. I hate the world.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 12 2014 09:36 GMT
#45
I bet shellbot will be happy about this
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
February 12 2014 09:38 GMT
#46
Life and mvp on same team.
This is gonna be awesome
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
February 12 2014 09:41 GMT
#47
life should make a significant difference in the points IM makes. having hack in there might do some good too as IM is quite bereft of terrans except for mvp. but really really this brings my hope of having a barbie vs aphrodite televised match coming into being that much closer. mwhahaha
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#48
Exciting news.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#49
well that's my favorite team ever now
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:46:56
February 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#50
On February 12 2014 18:41 rave[wcr] wrote:
life should make a significant difference in the points IM makes. having hack in there might do some good too as IM is quite bereft of terrans except for mvp. but really really this brings my hope of having a barbie vs aphrodite televised match coming into being that much closer. mwhahaha

Eve vs Aphrodite was enough for me
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 09:48 GMT
#51
On February 12 2014 18:36 stuchiu wrote:
Team Avengers. If we can't save esf, we will AVENGE IT!

*Nvm, Avenge retired. I hate the world.


I feel for you, that was a very sad day...
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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
February 12 2014 09:49 GMT
#52
Good for Proleague, IM do need Zergs now but haven't they got too many players right now? IM could make good use of Life, Curious and Hack but ST still has quite a few players in their roster. Also, sad that both First and YoDa seem to have disappeared since deciding to play in WCS Europe...
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:50:06
February 12 2014 09:49 GMT
#53
Life in Proleague, my dream fulfilled
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 09:51:58
February 12 2014 09:50 GMT
#54
I wish Startale and Prime joined up instead tbh. The bickering between the fans would be interesting and we'd actually have another potentially competitive team in SPL.

IM only needed 1 or 2 more good signings to recover from the loss of Yoda, Losira, and First. They were already fine.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
February 12 2014 09:50 GMT
#55
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.

a bad practice regime doesn't mean shit if your roster is supposed to be class above the rest.

alas, they underperformed hardcore, and i don't really think that lack of practice was a factor since most of the players on the roster went on to have at least some (or a lot in the cases of taeja and JD) success in individual competition.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 12 2014 09:51 GMT
#56
This will SPICE THINGS UP.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 09:56 GMT
#57
On February 12 2014 18:29 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


EGTL had the worst practice regime in the entire league and a total lack of rooster depth (no matter the format you do need this as your 3-5 default players will eventually get figured out). I'm still shocked to this day that TL predicted them to do well in PL when it was obvious that they would get 4th at the very very best.


The TL writers did ok, they probably should have been a bit more conservative but again, hindsight is great.
The thing is, the that power rank was writen at a time when the quantifiable talent of EGTL was very well known and quite high at the time in comparison to that of KeSPA, which was totally unknown at the time.

We take it for granted now that KeSPA players are godlike and have basically caught up to everybody in skill, but back then the only players to have had good results where Rain with a WCS Asia gold and multiple high finishes, Flash with some good showings when he was invited, Soulkey on the ladder, Bogus with some GSL showings and ladder.

Everybody expected it would take the rest of KeSPA several more months to catch up in skill with everybody else, but their insane work ethic means they caught up in record time.
KeSPA teams experience in the PL format was also a large advantage, they analyzed and dissected EGTL on multiple occasion and gave them a lot of hard losses.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#58
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

They want to win...

huehuehuehue
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
February 12 2014 09:59 GMT
#59
I hope they have a chance!
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 12 2014 10:00 GMT
#60
NICE !!!!!!
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 12 2014 10:00 GMT
#61
On February 12 2014 18:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I wish Startale and Prime joined up instead tbh. The bickering between the fans would be interesting and we'd actually have another potentially competitive team in SPL.

IM only needed 1 or 2 more good signings to recover from the loss of Yoda, Losira, and First. They were already fine.

Agree completely. And this has also made me remember how scary IM would've been with Yoda, Losira and First in PL. So depressed that they're gone. :<
Long live the King of Wings
JoFeSboyAT
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria128 Posts
February 12 2014 10:02 GMT
#62
mhm oke IM now a favourit we will see
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
February 12 2014 10:02 GMT
#63
OH MY GOD
This is...OMG
Startale forever.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 12 2014 10:06 GMT
#64
Mixed feelings... ST...
The Bomber boy
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
February 12 2014 10:15 GMT
#65
Wooo cant wait for FPL to anti Life ^^

Probably going to get hella overvalued.

Nice move tho Hirai.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 10:15 GMT
#66
On February 12 2014 19:06 Wintex wrote:
Mixed feelings... ST...


Lets hope its just a move so they can participate in PL and not a sign that they might be crumbling.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
February 12 2014 10:17 GMT
#67
C'mon startale, don't die on me now....
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thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
February 12 2014 10:22 GMT
#68
great news
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 10:26:13
February 12 2014 10:25 GMT
#69
LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE

I'm fucking screaming
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 12 2014 10:26 GMT
#70
so does this include Bomber? i realize he's not on ST anymore but he's still got the same sponsor and shit. anyways, this COULD be huge but i'm not 100% sure it'll really help them all that much considering they can only field 4 of their 134324230434 players.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 10:43:59
February 12 2014 10:26 GMT
#71
On February 12 2014 19:25 Zealously wrote:
LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE

I'm fucking screaming

No CJ_Life.

I hope they will show good results !
On February 12 2014 19:26 Schelim wrote:
so does this include Bomber? i realize he's not on ST anymore but he's still got the same sponsor and shit. anyways, this COULD be huge but i'm not 100% sure it'll really help them all that much considering they can only field 4 of their 134324230434 players.

Bomber doesn't want to play PL.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 12 2014 10:26 GMT
#72
Startale players will compete in Proleague wearing IM uniforms...i got a bad feeling about this...not cool,not cool at all :/
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
February 12 2014 10:27 GMT
#73
all the RIP former esF should just join forces
AKMU / IU
desertfrog817
Profile Joined June 2013
United States16 Posts
February 12 2014 10:28 GMT
#74
very excited to see teams join together, now all I wish now is Axiom-Acer join again in pro league. (They still live together from what I seen on youtube)
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
February 12 2014 10:32 GMT
#75
even less chance of mvp in the starting lineup T_T
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
February 12 2014 10:34 GMT
#76
ST is dead by the looks of things. I'm glad for the players though
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Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
February 12 2014 10:40 GMT
#77
so that's that for ST..
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 10:45:18
February 12 2014 10:43 GMT
#78
Life playing with IM? Excellent!
Even more reason for me to continue supporting them first in PL.

EDIT: Oh gawd, that means Bomber too!
Mwuhahah!
And yeah, Curious, whatever.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 10:49:36
February 12 2014 10:48 GMT
#79
On February 12 2014 19:43 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Life playing with IM? Excellent!
Even more reason for me to continue supporting them first in PL.

EDIT: Oh gawd, that means Bomber too!
Mwuhahah!
And yeah, Curious, whatever.

Bomber is not in Startale anymore.

I don't really know about this. Sure it sounds great but Life never shined in team leagues, I hope that has changed. Curious is great addition though.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
February 12 2014 10:48 GMT
#80
ahhh man imagine seeing [STIM]Bomber T_T
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 12 2014 10:51 GMT
#81
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
February 12 2014 10:55 GMT
#82
this is actually a pretty decent team if everybody plays
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 12 2014 10:58 GMT
#83
UNHOLY ALLIANCE PART 2!!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 10:58 GMT
#84
On February 12 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.

Apologise
AdministratorBreak the chains
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:03:25
February 12 2014 11:02 GMT
#85
On February 12 2014 18:05 Dodgin wrote:
this sounds to me like Startale is going to die, they're moving into IM's team house?

Well they are the only professional korean team not in proleague. Unless you count AZUBU which is team of 2...

But IM+ST is powerhouse. They can challenge even telecoms!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 12 2014 11:07 GMT
#86
On February 12 2014 20:02 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:05 Dodgin wrote:
this sounds to me like Startale is going to die, they're moving into IM's team house?

Well they are the only professional korean team not in proleague. Unless you count AZUBU which is team of 2...

But IM+ST is powerhouse. They can challenge even telecoms!

Startale being a team of 3 doesnt make that much of a difference. Im surprised everyone forgot that they removed most of its players weeks ago
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 12 2014 11:09 GMT
#87
On February 12 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.

Apologise

Well, they have Byul and Curious, who is third?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 11:10 GMT
#88
On February 12 2014 20:09 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
On February 12 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.

Apologise

Well, they have Byul and Curious, who is third?


They picked up Lucky awhile back
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
February 12 2014 11:14 GMT
#89
On February 12 2014 20:07 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:02 nimdil wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:05 Dodgin wrote:
this sounds to me like Startale is going to die, they're moving into IM's team house?

Well they are the only professional korean team not in proleague. Unless you count AZUBU which is team of 2...

But IM+ST is powerhouse. They can challenge even telecoms!

Startale being a team of 3 doesnt make that much of a difference. Im surprised everyone forgot that they removed most of its players weeks ago

This. There was no Startale team, per se, for a couple of weeks now.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 12 2014 11:15 GMT
#90
Ew Startale. D: Our old enemy
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 12 2014 11:15 GMT
#91
COOOL!!!!!!!!!!
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 12 2014 11:16 GMT
#92
omg st + im ? thats a HUGE and big team then isnt it ?
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
February 12 2014 11:18 GMT
#93
I hope this doesn't spell doom for ST as an organization. Either way it's gonna be a pretty cool roster!
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:22:27
February 12 2014 11:22 GMT
#94
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 11:24 GMT
#95
Meh woulda preffered ST joining PL as a seperate team tbh. And bo5 format is still to small
But still sick roster and IM is pretty cool now with Trap ByuL Mvp Life all players I like
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invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
February 12 2014 11:24 GMT
#96
SICK CITY
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
February 12 2014 11:28 GMT
#97
I think this partnership is to allow players to take part in most foreign events without sacrificing Proleague results.
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
February 12 2014 11:28 GMT
#98
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

Holy crap is that a huge roster.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 12 2014 11:30 GMT
#99
On February 12 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.

Apologise

sorry I forgot Pet
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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:33:45
February 12 2014 11:31 GMT
#100
On February 12 2014 19:48 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 19:43 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Life playing with IM? Excellent!
Even more reason for me to continue supporting them first in PL.

EDIT: Oh gawd, that means Bomber too!
Mwuhahah!
And yeah, Curious, whatever.

Bomber is not in Startale anymore.

I don't really know about this. Sure it sounds great but Life never shined in team leagues, I hope that has changed. Curious is great addition though.

Oh yeah.
I only added that edit after seeing someone post something about him earlier in the thread but didn't really pay attention to the post.
Maybe they were saying "what a shame he's not on ST anymore" rather than "Wow, Bomber will play with IM" sort of thing.
Alas, I am too tired now, so I shan't be checking.

On February 12 2014 20:28 padiseal2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

Holy crap is that a huge roster.

Hmm, needs more protoss though, obviously.
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:32:11
February 12 2014 11:31 GMT
#101
On February 12 2014 20:30 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 19:58 Zealously wrote:
On February 12 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
Well, now IM has two pretty decent zergs.

Apologise

sorry I forgot Pet

And you seem to have no idea about Zero
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 11:31 GMT
#102
Now we'll never see what Ungnim can do
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
SHIN-AKUMA
Profile Joined June 2011
4 Posts
February 12 2014 11:34 GMT
#103
Bomber, Life, Curious, HerO, Trap, Byul, Yongwa, Squirtle - now that a line up if they all perform well
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
February 12 2014 11:35 GMT
#104
Just think, if they do really bad we may get to see a female in proleague!
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
February 12 2014 11:37 GMT
#105
February 24, 2014 - 19:00 KST

[image loading]Incredible Miracle vs
[image loading]
SK Telecom T1
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:38:16
February 12 2014 11:38 GMT
#106
On February 12 2014 20:34 SHIN-AKUMA wrote:
Bomber, Life, Curious, HerO, Trap, Byul, Yongwa, Squirtle - now that a line up if they all perform well


If only Bomber hadn't left Startale like 1 month and a half ago...
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scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
February 12 2014 11:38 GMT
#107
fuckyeah, Life in PL aaweeeesum
Try again, fail better.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 12 2014 11:39 GMT
#108
All my efforts in trying to create hatred and animosity between ST and IM fans comes to naught.

UGH I wanted a meaningful rivalry for IM
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 11:41 GMT
#109
On February 12 2014 20:39 lichter wrote:
All my efforts in trying to create hatred and animosity between ST and IM fans comes to naught.

UGH I wanted a meaningful rivalry for IM


It was never going to be meaningful given how much of a one sided beat down it has been so far with IM having won 2 GSTL's and ST never won any
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 12 2014 11:41 GMT
#110
Now why can't the IM players wear Startale uniforms as well, and IM go practice in the Startale house? Ok, keep the uniforms if you want, just call the team Incredible Tale. ProLeague needs more absurdity (aside from the lovely bathrobe-style white coats we see from time to time)
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 12 2014 11:42 GMT
#111
OK so it's not such great improvement after all but Life is something to be happy about
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 11:50:01
February 12 2014 11:47 GMT
#112
On February 12 2014 18:08 malady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.



I have to agree.

kind of stupid, but as we learned from EGTL it doesn't mean they will dominate.


IM/ST lineup is much better than EG/TL though as a combo v combo, and I love Taeja & HerO.

This is amazing news though!
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
February 12 2014 11:55 GMT
#113
HOLY ! too bad bomber is no longer part of the team.. though it's fine they have hack and life.
this is a quote
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 12 2014 12:03 GMT
#114
Life in Proleague ! <3 <3 <3
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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
February 12 2014 12:03 GMT
#115
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

There's a limit for players you can list in your roster in Proleague. If not, every team might as well just list everybody including B-teamers. We will have to wait for round 2 rosters to be out to be sure of who is on the roster.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 12 2014 12:04 GMT
#116
IM is going to have a pretty beast lineup
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 12 2014 12:07 GMT
#117
On February 12 2014 21:03 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

There's a limit for players you can list in your roster in Proleague. If not, every team might as well just list everybody including B-teamers. We will have to wait for round 2 rosters to be out to be sure of who is on the roster.

really, a limit? last season we saw just about everyone being listed, the reason for this season's smaller rosters i thought was the cuts to all teams. like, which b-teamers this season were not listed?
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
February 12 2014 12:08 GMT
#118
On February 12 2014 21:03 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

There's a limit for players you can list in your roster in Proleague. If not, every team might as well just list everybody including B-teamers. We will have to wait for round 2 rosters to be out to be sure of who is on the roster.

All rosters in Proleague include B-teamers. All rosters for Round 1 are the actual rosters for all teams.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
February 12 2014 12:08 GMT
#119
IM renamed ESF XD pls no IM is the cooler tag...
i am a bit sad though... i mean STLife is cool and all, but i liked First and Yoda...

well we dont know how much ST will slim down, i do not believe IM will take over the whole roster.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
February 12 2014 12:09 GMT
#120
im happy about this, glad to see the ST players getting to play in the proleague :D
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
February 12 2014 12:13 GMT
#121
On February 12 2014 21:07 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 21:03 Pangpootata wrote:
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]

There's a limit for players you can list in your roster in Proleague. If not, every team might as well just list everybody including B-teamers. We will have to wait for round 2 rosters to be out to be sure of who is on the roster.

really, a limit? last season we saw just about everyone being listed, the reason for this season's smaller rosters i thought was the cuts to all teams. like, which b-teamers this season were not listed?

KeSPA teams used to operate with a system where they had an A-team and a B-team. A-team players get on the PL roster and B-team players play in dream league. Some players of borderline-decent skill levels would frequently get added and removed from rosters for that reason, and when they finally win a match and get interviewed, they would talk about how they were demoted to the B-team. But now, I am not sure if only dream league is no longer held or KeSPA teams have done away with B-teams altogether. Either way, I have never seen 18 players on a roster before. They could have changed the rules though, but it doesn't seem likely.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
February 12 2014 12:15 GMT
#122
so am I supposed to be happy about it because we can see ST players in Proleague or am I supposed to be sad because that probably means that ST is not doing well and maybe disband in the near future?
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
February 12 2014 12:20 GMT
#123
On February 12 2014 21:15 Yello wrote:
so am I supposed to be happy about it because we can see ST players in Proleague or am I supposed to be sad because that probably means that ST is not doing well and maybe disband in the near future?


Or maybe they said to themself hey we are the only ESF team that was left, and we have no league to play in. We should probably try to get on that KesPa league so we can always be having a tournament environment for our players.
I would think that this is probably the case, seeing as the teams that were left were ST,Axiom, and Azubu.
I think we all know Azubu is going to go away soon, and that Axiom is more like a foreigner team.
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
February 12 2014 12:21 GMT
#124
Soooo, IMLife pretty much?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 12 2014 12:31 GMT
#125
So Startale might survive yay. Would be cool to see Axiom Acer Prime, though no one would have a chance anymore.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
February 12 2014 12:32 GMT
#126
Gonna be weird with Bo5 as others have already stated. But at least we should be able to see Life play more often now.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#127
On February 12 2014 20:39 lichter wrote:
All my efforts in trying to create hatred and animosity between ST and IM fans comes to naught.

UGH I wanted a meaningful rivalry for IM

Yeah, it was definitely a good rivalry, though all IM fans (Except for Dodgin) are so nice they refused to hate ST or every other enemy of IM. I'm particularly looking at you FrostedMiniWheats, your niceness sickens me!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 12:48 GMT
#128
On February 12 2014 21:37 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:39 lichter wrote:
All my efforts in trying to create hatred and animosity between ST and IM fans comes to naught.

UGH I wanted a meaningful rivalry for IM

Yeah, it was definitely a good rivalry, though all IM fans (Except for Dodgin) are so nice they refused to hate ST or every other enemy of IM. I'm particularly looking at you FrostedMiniWheats, your niceness sickens me!


Hey now, ST stopped being a decent rival ever since IM left eSF and they still never managed to get a GSTL gold even when GSTL became far easier. Rightfully, they are our henchmen now and nothing more.

Besides, hating ST is Prime's thing. It's about all they have left.

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
February 12 2014 12:50 GMT
#129
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.


because of the strong rivalry between ST and prime I guess, it'd be like KT and SKT fusing.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 12 2014 12:55 GMT
#130
ST + IM = STIM would have been so epic
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 12 2014 12:57 GMT
#131
On February 12 2014 21:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 21:37 Kasaraki wrote:
On February 12 2014 20:39 lichter wrote:
All my efforts in trying to create hatred and animosity between ST and IM fans comes to naught.

UGH I wanted a meaningful rivalry for IM

Yeah, it was definitely a good rivalry, though all IM fans (Except for Dodgin) are so nice they refused to hate ST or every other enemy of IM. I'm particularly looking at you FrostedMiniWheats, your niceness sickens me!


Hey now, ST stopped being a decent rival ever since IM left eSF and they still never managed to get a GSTL gold even when GSTL became far easier. Rightfully, they are our henchmen now and nothing more.

Besides, hating ST is Prime's thing. It's about all they have left.


:D That's more like it
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
February 12 2014 13:02 GMT
#132
On February 12 2014 21:55 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
ST + IM = STIM would have been so epic

true
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 12 2014 13:02 GMT
#133
What a slutty team. They'll partner with anybody
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 13:05:20
February 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#134
On February 12 2014 22:02 Bagration wrote:
What a slutty team. They'll partner with anybody

They try to survive. When players like First, YoDa and KangHo leave the best eSF team without any solid reason it says a lot.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
February 12 2014 13:07 GMT
#135
This one's for you wintex.

[image loading]
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 12 2014 13:09 GMT
#136
Life in proleague is going to be fun! Hope this will make IM perform better than last time, in theory they should but that's not always the case.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#137
On February 12 2014 22:07 BisuDagger wrote:
This one's for you wintex.

[image loading]


Epic win! I'd love for it to happen.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#138
Still waiting for Jaedong to partner up with a proleage team.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
February 12 2014 13:27 GMT
#139
On February 12 2014 18:15 Waxangel wrote:
THE HOLY ALLIANCE


Branding.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 12 2014 13:41 GMT
#140
This is good , but it would be better to have some transfer between former eSF teams . MVP and Prime suck now and a couple of bad players won't really change anything . What they need is to refine their training methods and have better coaching or something .
shookshift
Profile Joined March 2013
4 Posts
February 12 2014 13:43 GMT
#141
doesnt ST owner not in good standing or despises kespa, its probably not a sponsorship issue, more like gettin some exposure for their players without having to join pl as a team
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
February 12 2014 13:43 GMT
#142
I wonder how are they going to accommodate so many players in the same house. I guess the same way Startale managed to accommodate all the Zenex players in the ST house.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
February 12 2014 13:54 GMT
#143
Sick. Gogo.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
February 12 2014 13:54 GMT
#144
On February 12 2014 18:15 Waxangel wrote:
THE HOLY ALLIANCE

YOU MEAN THE STIMPACKS
NDG.TV
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1 Post
February 12 2014 14:03 GMT
#145
Talk about an all-star roster.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
February 12 2014 14:04 GMT
#146
IM_Liquid_ST

Ok so now if you can't win at least one round of proleague...
RIP MKP
SunflowerSeeds
Profile Joined December 2013
90 Posts
February 12 2014 14:05 GMT
#147
Nice move for Life.
Now, it's time for Dear, Bogus, Jaedong to do something.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#148
On February 12 2014 22:43 shookshift wrote:
doesnt ST owner not in good standing or despises kespa, its probably not a sponsorship issue, more like gettin some exposure for their players without having to join pl as a team

Maybe ST players were not happy about being on a sideline as well.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 14:13 GMT
#149
On February 12 2014 22:41 raga4ka wrote:
This is good , but it would be better to have some transfer between former eSF teams . MVP and Prime suck now and a couple of bad players won't really change anything . What they need is to refine their training methods and have better coaching or something .


To be honest, with how many free agents are now on the open market it would be incredibly easy for either MVP or Prime to acquire some good players, provided they have the cash to sustain them.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 14:22 GMT
#150
What the hell is happening right now?

Insanity. Still at least we get to see Startale players in proleague.
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 12 2014 14:33 GMT
#151
On February 12 2014 18:00 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Source: Inven

Inven reports that Startale players will join Incredible Miracle to compete in Proleague's Round 2. Starting in Round 2, Startale players will compete in Proleague wearing IM uniforms. Inven also reports that Startale players are joining IM's team house at this time.

IM head coach Hirai said "Through round 1, we've cmopleted our adjustment to a new league. IM players are performing well in individual tournaments, and the addition of Startale players will make the team ever stronger."


That doesn't sound like a team up cooperation...
That sounds like a merge.
moo...for DRG
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 14:41 GMT
#152
On February 12 2014 20:07 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:02 nimdil wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:05 Dodgin wrote:
this sounds to me like Startale is going to die, they're moving into IM's team house?

Well they are the only professional korean team not in proleague. Unless you count AZUBU which is team of 2...

But IM+ST is powerhouse. They can challenge even telecoms!

Startale being a team of 3 doesnt make that much of a difference. Im surprised everyone forgot that they removed most of its players weeks ago

Well Life, Pet, Panic, Hack, and Curious so really a team of 5. Still in a bo5 format that roster is going to be pretty crowded. We could see very different lineups week to week, as opposed to the telecoms "Flash, TY, Zest, Stats" and "Soulkey, Rain, Parting" every week.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 12 2014 14:43 GMT
#153
On February 12 2014 23:13 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 22:41 raga4ka wrote:
This is good , but it would be better to have some transfer between former eSF teams . MVP and Prime suck now and a couple of bad players won't really change anything . What they need is to refine their training methods and have better coaching or something .


To be honest, with how many free agents are now on the open market it would be incredibly easy for either MVP or Prime to acquire some good players, provided they have the cash to sustain them.


I think providing the cash IS the main issue.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 14:45:13
February 12 2014 14:43 GMT
#154
Kind of wanted to hear about ST + Prime. Then the world would see what a truly unholy alliance is like.


Still hype tho. Life gonna wreck 'em.

Edit: Just realized about Squirtle being back with Startale. I will be looking forward to STIM smashing the traitor in vs SKT matches.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
February 12 2014 14:51 GMT
#155
I can't wait to see Life in the SPL booth :D

Also Curious will be a great ZvT sniper, honestly his ZvT is fucking brilliant. Sadly there isn't many Terrans to snipe

Also Squirtle get's to be with some of his old teammates, sadly Bomber isn't on the roster anymore.

But man ST.IM will definitely reach playoffs for the next season, I CALLED IT!
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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
February 12 2014 14:54 GMT
#156
Mvp
HerO
Squirtle
Life
Curious
Hack
Byul
Trap
And one can only dream of FruitDealer coming out of his coaching job to do some bane busts but DAMN that's one strong line up they got.
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 12 2014 14:57 GMT
#157
Wow, that is going to be one huge team. Is there a limit on the size of your roster for proleague?
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
February 12 2014 15:01 GMT
#158
Mixed feelings. ~~
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 12 2014 15:17 GMT
#159
I guess Redbull has given up on ST?
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THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 15:22:43
February 12 2014 15:22 GMT
#160
Siccccck my favorite esf teams
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j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
February 12 2014 15:22 GMT
#161
great!!!
but ppl keep mentioning the "death" of st… does anybody have any real information on this?
i mean after eg joined us, they didn't disband...
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Saser
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden66 Posts
February 12 2014 15:23 GMT
#162
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]


Not sure if this is accurate...
The article mentions the following players:
NesTea
Life
Curious
ByuL
Pet

Mvp
Hack

HerO
Trap
Squirtle
YongHwa
Panic
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 12 2014 15:27 GMT
#163
On February 13 2014 00:22 j1nzo wrote:
great!!!
but ppl keep mentioning the "death" of st… does anybody have any real information on this?
i mean after eg joined us, they didn't disband...


More like TL joined EG. It was EG-TL after all...
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 15:32:19
February 12 2014 15:29 GMT
#164
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.


Kind of answered your own question, why would you join the bottom leaguers when you could join the team who have the potential to be winners?

This is all very odd though. Nothing mentioned of an official merger, yet they are playing in IM jerseys so it has absolutely no benefit to ST whatsoever aside from perhaps the fact that the players don’t get rusty and can still compete in high level competition. Although there’s even no guarantee of this since the combined roster of IM and ST is just too big.

Very strange.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
February 12 2014 15:29 GMT
#165
Just glad to see more of (Z)Life again, he needs some PvZ practice.
....
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 15:32:51
February 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#166
Please no PvZ practice for (Z)Life until after (P)Dear wipes the floor with him in Code S
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
February 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#167
Rest in peace Startale...

I feel they should have joined with Prime or MVP instead though. IM is already so pro.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 12 2014 15:33 GMT
#168
On February 13 2014 00:29 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.


Kind of answered your own question, why would you join the bottom leaguers when you could join the team who have the potential to be winners?

This is all very odd though. Nothing mentioned of an official merger, yet they are playing in IM jerseys so it has absolutely no benefit to ST whatsoever aside from perhaps the fact that the players don’t get rusty and can still compete in high level competition. Although there’s even no guarantee of this since the combined roster of IM and ST is just too big.

Very strange.

HerO also plays with an IM jersey, but it has the Liquid sponsors on his arm patches. I'd assume it will be the same for ST.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 15:53:53
February 12 2014 15:53 GMT
#169
On February 13 2014 00:23 Saser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 20:22 DiMano wrote:
IM's line-up for Proleague
[image loading]


Not sure if this is accurate...
The article mentions the following players:
NesTea
Life
Curious
ByuL
Pet

Mvp
Hack

HerO
Trap
Squirtle
YongHwa
Panic


It's DiMano, you can probably count on it being reasonably accurate

On February 13 2014 00:32 NovaMB wrote:
Please no PvZ practice for (Z)Life until after (P)Dear wipes the floor with him in Code S


Please
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 12 2014 15:58 GMT
#170
Nice for viewers but worrying for Startale's future.
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ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
February 12 2014 16:06 GMT
#171
If only Bomber was still there. Mvp + Bomber = <3
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alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
February 12 2014 16:09 GMT
#172
Tale of a Liquid Miracle
HerO, Squirtle, Yonghwa, Trap
Byul, Life, Curious
Mvp, Hack

Solid.
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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
February 12 2014 16:10 GMT
#173
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
February 12 2014 16:10 GMT
#174
Is this going to bring Life to IM?
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
February 12 2014 16:12 GMT
#175
Is this enough to get them into R2 playoffs?

Will Life live up to the expectations? Lets be honest, he's probably the one they expect to bring at least one win every two matches in. And go on streaks during the all kill round.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#176
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.

I don't think it was possible at any point in time for KeSPA to loose. At best eSF could survive.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#177
More canon fodder for KT i see....
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tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 16:25:11
February 12 2014 16:22 GMT
#178
Team ST IM - now with less Bio

Glad to see Life get a shot (hopefully) at playing in PL.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 16:23:55
February 12 2014 16:23 GMT
#179
I mean this definitely improves their depth and their practice environment, but so few of them can actually play TT
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 12 2014 16:27 GMT
#180
On February 13 2014 01:12 ZeromuS wrote:
Is this enough to get them into R2 playoffs?

Will Life live up to the expectations? Lets be honest, he's probably the one they expect to bring at least one win every two matches in. And go on streaks during the all kill round.


Life never performed in teamleague, at least in GSTL afaik. But he has the potential to reach even higher height and I expect him to do so in KeSPA team like T1 or KT. But IM? partnership? not so much
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 16:30 GMT
#181
On February 12 2014 23:05 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
Nice move for Life.
Now, it's time for Dear, Bogus, Jaedong to do something.

Them in PL would be amazing
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 12 2014 16:30 GMT
#182
This is kind of sketchy. How come IM can just pull in Startale and use the entire team immediately starting next round? I can see maybe bringing in a player or two, but to bring in an entire team on such short notice? That's not exactly fair IMO
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
February 12 2014 16:34 GMT
#183
Welcome Startale brothers, together we shall crush Prime!
Stim ftw!
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
February 12 2014 16:34 GMT
#184
On February 12 2014 23:04 shid0x wrote:
IM_Liquid_ST

Ok so now if you can't win at least one round of proleague...

May I suggest "Liquid_STIM" instead?
Get off my lawn, young punks
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 12 2014 16:40 GMT
#185
GG Startale lol. Wonder if this means the team will just get absorbed into IM eventually.
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
February 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#186
HerO
Squirtle
Life
Mvp

A lineup taken from my wet dreams...
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
February 12 2014 16:56 GMT
#187
So ST wearing IM jerseys? Maybe it's a sponsorship issue, not a hint of ST's impending death.
It'd be cool to see life play in proleague though
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 16:57:09
February 12 2014 16:56 GMT
#188
So this feels kind of strange. These are both my favourite teams, and I don't really wish to see one of them assimilated by the other. Although seeing some of my favourite players in pro league is of course good, and they'll get a kickass training house
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 12 2014 17:07 GMT
#189
I hope that MVP can get some support as well.
The curse is real
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 17:07 GMT
#190
On February 13 2014 01:30 Bagration wrote:
This is kind of sketchy. How come IM can just pull in Startale and use the entire team immediately starting next round? I can see maybe bringing in a player or two, but to bring in an entire team on such short notice? That's not exactly fair IMO

I presume they've been having a dialogue with the Kespa rulers about this for some time now.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
February 12 2014 17:11 GMT
#191
On February 13 2014 02:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 01:30 Bagration wrote:
This is kind of sketchy. How come IM can just pull in Startale and use the entire team immediately starting next round? I can see maybe bringing in a player or two, but to bring in an entire team on such short notice? That's not exactly fair IMO

I presume they've been having a dialogue with the Kespa rulers about this for some time now.

Yeah Kespa seems to have a pretty well defined ruleset. I doubt this is sketchy - it might even be a smoother way of easing some financial strain on Startale or something, what with less players in their house.
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
February 12 2014 17:16 GMT
#192
Yay, maybe, I guess
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 17:24:38
February 12 2014 17:23 GMT
#193
On February 12 2014 18:07 Ace Frehley wrote:
With bo5 format, this is not very useful

Also, no redbull logo showing on screen


Does redbull even sponsor startale anymore? When I saw Life in code a, he did not wear the usual startale shirt with just the giant red bull logo. He was wearing a shirt without a red bull logo anywhere on it.

[image loading]
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 12 2014 17:27 GMT
#194
On February 13 2014 02:23 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:07 Ace Frehley wrote:
With bo5 format, this is not very useful

Also, no redbull logo showing on screen


Does redbull even sponsor startale anymore? When I saw Life in code a, he did not wear the usual startale shirt with just the giant red bull logo. He was wearing a shirt without a red bull logo anywhere on it.

[image loading]


It's on the shoulders. St uniforms have changes like once every 2 months or so lol
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 17:28 GMT
#195
If any one of you doubt the power of Startale or feel iffy about ST playing with IM, you should immediately inform me so that I can take the appropriate measures
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 12 2014 17:32 GMT
#196
On February 13 2014 02:27 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 02:23 Canucklehead wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:07 Ace Frehley wrote:
With bo5 format, this is not very useful

Also, no redbull logo showing on screen


Does redbull even sponsor startale anymore? When I saw Life in code a, he did not wear the usual startale shirt with just the giant red bull logo. He was wearing a shirt without a red bull logo anywhere on it.

[image loading]


It's on the shoulders. St uniforms have changes like once every 2 months or so lol


Hmm guess I never saw it on the shoulder and only remember their shirt as just the giant red bull logo on the front with it saying star tale no where on it. However, I admit I haven't kept up with gsl and gstl like I used to, so that was the first time I saw life play in gsl in a while.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
February 12 2014 17:34 GMT
#197
On February 13 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
If any one of you doubt the power of Startale or feel iffy about ST playing with IM, you should immediately inform me so that I can take the appropriate measures


Let them hate me, so that they will but fear me.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 12 2014 17:47 GMT
#198
This blows my sorry mind.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 17:51:56
February 12 2014 17:51 GMT
#199
On February 13 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
If any one of you doubt the power of Startale or feel iffy about ST playing with IM, you should immediately inform me so that I can take the appropriate measures

The return of ST vs Prime

And IM is caught right in the middle
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2014 17:55 GMT
#200
Curious is the only one we'll see make the lineup
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 12 2014 18:02 GMT
#201
Oh god, they're going to have even more players than SKT when they walk on the stage for the intro/outro
Refer to my post.
vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
February 12 2014 18:06 GMT
#202
New blood in the team, hope they do better in the future.
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
February 12 2014 18:22 GMT
#203
That's weird. Red bull only sponsors Bomber now or what?
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EseNcEIncubus
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada39 Posts
February 12 2014 18:32 GMT
#204
hey where do we sign up for FPL for round two?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 18:33 GMT
#205
On February 13 2014 03:32 AllinMacroMicro wrote:
hey where do we sign up for FPL for round two?


It hasn't opened yet
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EseNcEIncubus
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada39 Posts
February 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#206
On February 13 2014 03:33 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:32 AllinMacroMicro wrote:
hey where do we sign up for FPL for round two?


It hasn't opened yet


Ok, do you have knowledge of when it will? That would be great, thank you
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 12 2014 18:37 GMT
#207
Someone needs to make a thread about why STIM will win round 2 playoffs
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 18:38 GMT
#208
On February 13 2014 03:37 Kasaraki wrote:
Someone needs to make a thread about why STIM will win round 2 playoffs

Only when the playoffs start then I will make the best damn thread anyone has ever seen.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#209
On February 13 2014 03:34 AllinMacroMicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:33 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:32 AllinMacroMicro wrote:
hey where do we sign up for FPL for round two?


It hasn't opened yet


Ok, do you have knowledge of when it will? That would be great, thank you


Probably between 48 and 72 hours before round 2 starts. Next friday would be my best bet.
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
February 12 2014 18:45 GMT
#210
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.


It wasn't a KESPA vs ESF debate. It was a debate on whether TBLS could do anything, and the end result is that no, they can't win anything meaningful.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 18:47 GMT
#211
On February 13 2014 03:45 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.


It wasn't a KESPA vs ESF debate. It was a debate on whether TBLS could do anything, and the end result is that no, they can't win anything meaningful.


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
February 12 2014 18:52 GMT
#212
On February 13 2014 03:45 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.


It wasn't a KESPA vs ESF debate. It was a debate on whether TBLS could do anything, and the end result is that no, they can't win anything meaningful.


JD is doing more than fine imho. Flash needs mech to be viable in all matchups, though he did incredibly well in PL last year. Bisu was sad about the lack of fangirls for star 2 and ran off to make some afreeca money before military. And Stork wasn't even THAT good at the end of BW anymore, but has been starting to come back lately.

But yea I think ALL the old BW pros being superior to the dish washers of esF has been proven wrong. Kespa vs esF only ended up in Kespa winning for financial reasons.
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
February 12 2014 18:55 GMT
#213
aaand the internet blows up
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Sanders
Profile Joined June 2010
97 Posts
February 12 2014 19:05 GMT
#214
On February 12 2014 18:21 GTPGlitch wrote:
STIM!

Ha! I was scrolling through just searching for this comment. Gogo ST-IM!
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
February 12 2014 19:06 GMT
#215
On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

Because SUPERTEAM
Seriously, I hope this doesn't fail. Star-studded lineups historically have the tendency to struggle.
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
February 12 2014 19:08 GMT
#216
So ST_IM will have enough players to play twice haha.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 12 2014 19:11 GMT
#217
On February 13 2014 03:45 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.


It wasn't a KESPA vs ESF debate. It was a debate on whether TBLS could do anything, and the end result is that no, they can't win anything meaningful.

No, it was definitely a kespa vs esf debate.
Refer to my post.
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
February 12 2014 19:12 GMT
#218
Huge Bomber/Squirtle/life/Byul. They will definitivly take a spot in round 2 :D!
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TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
February 12 2014 19:14 GMT
#219
Does anyone have the full roster for the now combined ST/IM?
For Aiur
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 12 2014 19:28 GMT
#220
On February 13 2014 04:12 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Huge Bomber/Squirtle/life/Byul. They will definitivly take a spot in round 2 :D!


Bomber still left ST two months ago. How does no one remember this?
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
February 12 2014 19:34 GMT
#221
That should be a pretty powerful team. I thought ST had strong support from sponsors though, so it does seem a bit odd.
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Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
February 12 2014 19:38 GMT
#222
On February 13 2014 01:27 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 01:12 ZeromuS wrote:
Is this enough to get them into R2 playoffs?

Will Life live up to the expectations? Lets be honest, he's probably the one they expect to bring at least one win every two matches in. And go on streaks during the all kill round.


Life never performed in teamleague, at least in GSTL afaik. But he has the potential to reach even higher height and I expect him to do so in KeSPA team like T1 or KT. But IM? partnership? not so much


The only time Life performed awesome in GSTL was 2012 Season 2 while he was on ZeNEX, Life went 9-2, 3rd best player that GSTL season win/loss wise (all killed Team Liquid that season).
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 19:39 GMT
#223
On February 13 2014 04:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:12 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Huge Bomber/Squirtle/life/Byul. They will definitivly take a spot in round 2 :D!


Bomber still left ST two months ago. How does no one remember this?


It's called being in denial

Ask Wintex

or me after GSL Season 5
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 12 2014 20:21 GMT
#224
Do not rejoince. There will be an EG_KT soon...
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
February 12 2014 20:29 GMT
#225
Hero, trap, squirtle, yonghwa, ruin, panic...

(EG-ST-)IM will probably prevail in Proleague pretty perfectly to put perspectives politely
maru G5L pls
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 20:31 GMT
#226
On February 13 2014 05:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
Do not rejoince. There will be an EG_KT soon...


KT doesn't want to win any more?
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
February 12 2014 20:35 GMT
#227
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:45 redviper wrote:
On February 13 2014 01:10 ChoiSulli wrote:
Remember those KESPA vs. ESF debates we used to have a couple of years ago.... so ya KESPA won.


It wasn't a KESPA vs ESF debate. It was a debate on whether TBLS could do anything, and the end result is that no, they can't win anything meaningful.


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though

JD's the only one who comes close to being the same level in sc2 as he was in bw. flash did well for a short time, but now he is just one of many struggling terrans who show flashes (lol) of brilliance, but overall are jsut average.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
February 12 2014 20:43 GMT
#228
I always wondered who would win. They were such fierce rivals for so long.
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ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
February 12 2014 20:58 GMT
#229
On February 13 2014 05:29 neptunusfisk wrote:
Hero, trap, squirtle, yonghwa, ruin, panic...

(TL-ST-)IM will probably prevail in Proleague pretty perfectly to put perspectives politely


Fixed. Well rip prime
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 21:06 GMT
#230
On February 13 2014 04:06 RageCommodore wrote:
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On February 12 2014 18:04 dustinth wrote:
Why not with Prime? IM already has tons of good players.

Because SUPERTEAM
Seriously, I hope this doesn't fail. Star-studded lineups historically have the tendency to struggle.

They just need a good coach, although I'd hate to be in his shoes. How the hell do you pick four to play each week out of that group? It will be easier in the all kill rounds to figure out who to send out but just picking four in the normal rounds will be difficult.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:10:03
February 12 2014 21:08 GMT
#231
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 21:12 GMT
#232
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
February 12 2014 21:12 GMT
#233
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?
maru G5L pls
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:15:11
February 12 2014 21:14 GMT
#234
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 21:17 GMT
#235
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#236
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

Currently #1 on aligulac.
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:29:58
February 12 2014 21:29 GMT
#237
On February 13 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again


Life was so afraid to play Jaedong at ASUS NorthCon that he decided to lose 0-3 to Scarlett in the semifinals while Jaedong raped Innovation and later Scarlett when he won the entire thing.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 12 2014 21:32 GMT
#238
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.


I don't know--Curious has always seemed a SuperNova-like player to me; looks good sometimes but tends to fall short in the clutch (in individual leagues). Different era of course but I still remember in the WCS 2012 Global Finals where he got kind of stomped by TitaN in the group stage.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:34:28
February 12 2014 21:33 GMT
#239
On February 13 2014 06:29 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again


Life was so afraid to play Jaedong at ASUS NorthCon that he decided to lose 0-3 to Scarlett in the semifinals while Jaedong raped Innovation and later Scarlett when he won the entire thing.


Life was too busy counting his relevant tournament wins

On February 13 2014 06:32 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.


I don't know--Curious has always seemed a SuperNova-like player to me; looks good sometimes but tends to fall short in the clutch (in individual leagues). Different era of course but I still remember in the WCS 2012 Global Finals where he got kind of stomped by TitaN in the group stage.


That Curious is long gone. This guy beat Innovation when he was at his peak and is currently #1 in ZvT on Aligulac. Unlike Supernova, whose builds are usually tailored to be especially effective against an opponent, Curious is good enough in straight-up play not to need it most of the time. I wouldn't clump the two together in terms of much at all.
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Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
February 12 2014 21:36 GMT
#240
Lol this smack talk is awesome. Can't wait for some Life in proleague.
Life..
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 12 2014 21:37 GMT
#241
On February 13 2014 06:29 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again


Life was so afraid to play Jaedong at ASUS NorthCon that he decided to lose 0-3 to Scarlett in the semifinals while Jaedong raped Innovation and later Scarlett when he won the entire thing.

Jaedong is the King Zerg now after breaking his kong title. Life, well, can't say the same anymore
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 12 2014 21:38 GMT
#242
This team just sounds imbalanced. lol.
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:39:33
February 12 2014 21:39 GMT
#243
On February 13 2014 06:33 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:29 SniXSniPe wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again


Life was so afraid to play Jaedong at ASUS NorthCon that he decided to lose 0-3 to Scarlett in the semifinals while Jaedong raped Innovation and later Scarlett when he won the entire thing.


Life was too busy counting his relevant tournament wins


Jaedong was too busy counting the amount of money he made in 2013 to care about winning
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
February 12 2014 21:39 GMT
#244
Monster 2.0
Everyday Girl's Day~!
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
February 12 2014 21:40 GMT
#245
On February 13 2014 06:38 Havik_ wrote:
This team just sounds imbalanced. lol.


Nah. They have a lot of players... but not really a lot of "outstanding players". When you look at a team like SKT, which as Soulkey, Rain, Parting, Classic, etc... that looks like an imbalanced team (despite them finishing 2nd).
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 12 2014 21:42 GMT
#246
On February 13 2014 06:40 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:38 Havik_ wrote:
This team just sounds imbalanced. lol.


Nah. They have a lot of players... but not really a lot of "outstanding players". When you look at a team like SKT, which as Soulkey, Rain, Parting, Classic, etc... that looks like an imbalanced team (despite them finishing 2nd).

On good day they are imbalanced. On bad day they are second.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2014 21:53 GMT
#247
idk why everyone is talking about Life in Proleague. why would a player with bad zvp play in a protoss heavy team league?
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Profile Joined June 2013
8 Posts
February 12 2014 21:53 GMT
#248
Oh you meant the imbalance team that just got all killed by zest?
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sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 22:00:25
February 12 2014 21:55 GMT
#249
Some said that the increased roster doesn't really matter as only 4 people get to play. However, a large B-team can improve the results significantly and support more refined practice regiment. It'd be just like the good old KeSPA practice slave tradition!

Hoping they can lure Red Bull as real main sponsor with couple million dollar yearly budget. Red Bull STIM has a nice ring to it. Too bad it sound quite unlikely to have any sponsor investing real money into SC.

Edit: I know they're not officially merged, but all signs points to the dissolution of ST in a not too distant future. The question is: does IM have the money to acquire a bulk of their players?
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 12 2014 22:00 GMT
#250
IM is certainly going to make it into the top 4 now with how they performed at the end of round 1...
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:01 GMT
#251
On February 13 2014 06:39 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:33 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:29 SniXSniPe wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
I did not read the whole thread, but the OP does not necessarily suggest to me that ST is disbanding. It makes sense for ST players to try to participate in a team league now that GSTL is dead, and them playing in IM uniforms is probably just to get around the restriction that you can't add a new team for R2 that wasn't participating in R1, so an "IM/ST" team was not possible.

I do wish for balance sake that they'd partnered with Prime instead, IM already had a strong (though very P-heavy) team. I'm not even sure how much this improves IM--Life will be great to see, but I don't see Curious, Hack or Panic as an improvement on HerO, YongHwa, ByuL, Trap, Squirtle, etc?


Curious might have the best ZvT in Korea.

That should be useful in proleague
On February 13 2014 06:12 neptunusfisk wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:47 Zealously wrote:


JD's doing pretty well for himself

still gets rekd by Life though


Didn't Jaedong stomp Life conciderably last time?

Life won 3-2 in their only meeting


Life is a nice guy. Stomped him in two games, gave the hyung two games out of respect before owning him again


Life was so afraid to play Jaedong at ASUS NorthCon that he decided to lose 0-3 to Scarlett in the semifinals while Jaedong raped Innovation and later Scarlett when he won the entire thing.


Life was too busy counting his relevant tournament wins


Jaedong was too busy counting the amount of money he made in 2013 to care about winning


That's a pretty weak argument when discussing two champions man, GOLDS BEFORE HOES

or something
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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
February 12 2014 22:03 GMT
#252
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:07 GMT
#253
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2014 22:08 GMT
#254
On February 13 2014 07:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it

yeah I mean look at all those team league titles they've won the in the past
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:10 GMT
#255
On February 13 2014 07:08 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:07 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it

yeah I mean look at all those team league titles they've won the in the past


I'm looking at Prime's championships and all I see are players that aren't on the team anymore

but hey I guess your rookies going 1-14 is a sign of great things to come
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 22:17:08
February 12 2014 22:11 GMT
#256
On February 13 2014 07:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:08 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:07 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it

yeah I mean look at all those team league titles they've won the in the past


I'm looking at Prime's championships and all I see are players that aren't on the team anymore

but hey I guess your rookies going 1-14 is a sign of great things to come

I don't see how Prime's players leaving has anything to do with Startale having no titles
oh wait they managed to win 1 IGN team league. I guess that's a nice consolation but it's also kind of funny because it was completely won in the finals by PartinG and Squirtle, 2 players that aren't even on their roster anymore as you pointed out with prime

also it's not like ST really adds much to the IM roster. The only players that have a chance at making an impact are Curious and Life through ZvZ. Maybe Curious in all kill to snipe terrans. ST doesn't have the same powerhouse terrans and protoss that they used to have
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 22:21 GMT
#257
ST - Prime hate brings joy to my heart
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:25 GMT
#258
On February 13 2014 07:11 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:10 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:08 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:07 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it

yeah I mean look at all those team league titles they've won the in the past


I'm looking at Prime's championships and all I see are players that aren't on the team anymore

but hey I guess your rookies going 1-14 is a sign of great things to come

I don't see how Prime's players leaving has anything to do with Startale having no titles
oh wait they managed to win 1 IGN team league. I guess that's a nice consolation but it's also kind of funny because it was completely won in the finals by PartinG and Squirtle, 2 players that aren't even on their roster anymore as you pointed out with prime

also it's not like ST really adds much to the IM roster. The only players that have a chance at making an impact are Curious and Life through ZvZ. Maybe Curious in all kill to snipe terrans. ST doesn't have the same powerhouse terrans and protoss that they used to have


ST has (had) as many players in Code S as IM. Losing Bomber really sucks but 4 Code S players and Hack is a pretty good all-round lineup in its own right
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 12 2014 22:28 GMT
#259
On February 13 2014 07:21 GumBa wrote:
ST - Prime hate brings joy to my heart


Two years onwards and still going strong.
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vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
February 12 2014 22:28 GMT
#260
On February 12 2014 18:01 opterown wrote:
RIP ST

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 22:35:12
February 12 2014 22:30 GMT
#261
On February 13 2014 07:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:11 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:10 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:08 Shellshock wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:07 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:03 Zer atai wrote:
IM Startale + Liquid Hero OP. Good Luck. Hope you all do well.


StarTale doesn't need luck to win a league that has Prime in it

yeah I mean look at all those team league titles they've won the in the past


I'm looking at Prime's championships and all I see are players that aren't on the team anymore

but hey I guess your rookies going 1-14 is a sign of great things to come

I don't see how Prime's players leaving has anything to do with Startale having no titles
oh wait they managed to win 1 IGN team league. I guess that's a nice consolation but it's also kind of funny because it was completely won in the finals by PartinG and Squirtle, 2 players that aren't even on their roster anymore as you pointed out with prime

also it's not like ST really adds much to the IM roster. The only players that have a chance at making an impact are Curious and Life through ZvZ. Maybe Curious in all kill to snipe terrans. ST doesn't have the same powerhouse terrans and protoss that they used to have


ST has (had) as many players in Code S as IM. Losing Bomber really sucks but 4 Code S players and Hack is a pretty good all-round lineup in its own right

individual league success doesn't necessarily correlate to team league success and vice versa. Startale limped through the last season of GSTL and many of their players have faltered in team leagues throughout their careers.

I mean sure, players change over time and can get better or worse but let's just look at some of them from the last season of GSTL

Hack: 0-3
Pet: 1-4
Panic: 4-8
Life: 7-7
Curious: 7-5

Startale also went winless in the proleague format round of GSTL

I don't see much reason why some of these players would start over the players IM already had this round especially with it only being bo5
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Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
February 12 2014 22:32 GMT
#262
I still think this team is inferior to KT and SKT1...
Zest comes huge in PL, and props to the KT staff for recognising this in advance. Although he did flop, he - not Flash or TY - was sent out as the ace versus Jinair.

All things being said, I'm still a Khan fan - my boy roro going from strength to strength, and mark my words (Really going out on a limb here) - Stork will come good. Just give him 2 years or so... he's already amazing at actual fights like the broodwarer of old, he just needs to work on his general macro game and mind-games aspect.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
February 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#263
That's awesome for the players, I wonder how Startale is looking financially. Is IM about to become some kind of gigantic superteam?
Only way this could have been better is if Bomber was still on Startale
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 22:38 GMT
#264
On February 13 2014 07:28 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:21 GumBa wrote:
ST - Prime hate brings joy to my heart


Two years onwards and still going strong.

Its beautiful isnt it?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
February 12 2014 22:39 GMT
#265
(P)Squirtle playing with StarTale again!!!!! bumpppppppppp
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 12 2014 22:40 GMT
#266
On February 13 2014 04:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:28 Promethelax wrote:
On February 13 2014 04:12 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Huge Bomber/Squirtle/life/Byul. They will definitivly take a spot in round 2 :D!


Bomber still left ST two months ago. How does no one remember this?


It's called being in denial

Ask Wintex

or me after GSL Season 5


Can't Liquid just pick up Bomber so everyone knows that it happened and stops talking about how great he'll be in Pro League?
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
February 12 2014 22:42 GMT
#267
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:44 GMT
#268
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)
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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
February 12 2014 22:44 GMT
#269
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.

STIM
vibeo gane,
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 22:47 GMT
#270
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 12 2014 22:48 GMT
#271
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We nickname it Holy Alliance and forget renaming the team, Startale doesn't deserve to rename IM.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
February 12 2014 22:49 GMT
#272
On February 13 2014 07:44 -NegativeZero- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.

STIM




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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#273
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 12 2014 22:52 GMT
#274
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 22:54 GMT
#275
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)

Haha has Life really got a winning record vs all of IM?
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 22:55 GMT
#276
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

This time I agree but Startale didnt have another way of joining PL
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:00:22
February 12 2014 22:57 GMT
#277
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.


It was this or wait until next season (which might not be until a year from now, if at all). Given that Red Bull's sponsorship of StarTale is less significant now than it was and that GSTL is dead, you can't exactly fault them for it.

On February 13 2014 07:54 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)

Haha has Life really got a winning record vs all of IM?


I'm not sure if he has a winning record against all of them, but he beat pretty much all of IM that one GSL season he won.

Edit: looked it up, winning record against all players even remotely likely to be fielded except Squirtle
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 22:57 GMT
#278
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 12 2014 22:57 GMT
#279
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.


IM did alright this past round, although I guess it's debatable whether or not having HerO on their roster detracts from that. StarTale would get absolutely obliterated on the other hand...

As for the IM/ST partnership, it certainly helps to have a deeper roster of players to field, and I also hope that all of them practicing together will help both teams regain at least some of their former glory. It's gonna be tough though, that's for sure.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 12 2014 23:00 GMT
#280
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?

Meh starstruck has always hated partnerships and has always hated on them.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:05:31
February 12 2014 23:02 GMT
#281
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I'm including all the Western Partnerships as well and there have been quite a few.

On February 13 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.


It was this or wait until next season (which might not be until a year from now, if at all). Given that Red Bull's sponsorship of StarTale is less significant now than it was and that GSTL is dead, you can't exactly fault them for it.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:54 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)

Haha has Life really got a winning record vs all of IM?


I'm not sure if he has a winning record against all of them, but he beat pretty much all of IM that one GSL season he won.

Edit: looked it up, winning record against all players even remotely likely to be fielded except Squirtle


My point is they really should have joined with the rest and put the animosity on the back burner because it's best for business in terms of their brand anyway.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:06:12
February 12 2014 23:05 GMT
#282
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I can see where he's coming from though. And certainly neither team looks stellar on its own anymore.

As for past partnerships for Team Leagues, we've had oGs-TL, FOX United, StarTaleQ, EG-TL and AxiomAcer. There was also QIM, before Quantic partnered with StarTale, but as far as I remember that only affected the IPL Team Arena Challenge tournament, and not GSTL. I guess on that note there was also coL.MVP...
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 23:06 GMT
#283
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)


We liked Squirtle so much we decided to absorb the rest of the team.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 12 2014 23:07 GMT
#284
On February 13 2014 08:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)


We liked Squirtle so much we decided to absorb the rest of the team.


Fun fact, Squirtle is 10-4 in maps against Life, although admittedly much of that is from when they were teammates. ^^
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:07:44
February 12 2014 23:07 GMT
#285
Keep in mind that Startale's main sponsor and MVP's main sponsor are competing energy drinks, so that partnership would be out of the question. I just wish that Liquid would've partnered with someone other than IM. Speaking of "western" partnerships with PL teams, I'd still love to see Jaedong and JYP swoop in and save the day for Prime.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#286
On February 13 2014 08:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I can see where he's coming from though. And certainly neither team looks stellar on its own anymore.

As for past partnerships for Team Leagues, we've had oGs-TL, FOX United, StarTaleQ, EG-TL and AxiomAcer. There was also QIM, before Quantic partnered with StarTale, but as far as I remember that only affected the IPL Team Arena Challenge tournament, and not GSTL.

I see your point for the number of partnerships. I don't really count a lot of those in the same league as this merger. When I said three I was thinking EG-TL, AxiomAcer, and this one simply based on the caliber of teams and their relative strength being fairly close.

The only other thing I'd like to say is that even though the teams aren't looking "stellar" on their own (especially Startale recently) that IM narrowly missed getting into the round 1 playoffs, and were certainly competitive in proleague without this added talent, so I feel there is room for excitement with this partnership.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#287
I mean yea looking back you can say sure Startale should have just joined in the beginning but we don't really know what went on behind the scenes with negotiations, sponsors, and all that other stuff. I don't see how this can hurt proleague to use it as kind of a bandaid to bring popular players into the league early instead of having to wait until next season. It wouldn't make sense for Startale to join mid season and I would be disappointed to see the partnership go any further than that. Like I said earlier though, I don't think it's really going to have a huge impact on results except maybe for 1 or 2 startale players contributing something notable. It could maybe help viewership and stuff though bringing in more startale fans and people that like popular players like Life.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
February 12 2014 23:44 GMT
#288
They should just merge the teams and bring dat Red Bull money over
HeisenZerg
Profile Joined November 2013
United States7 Posts
February 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#289
This is pretty awesome :D
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 13 2014 00:03 GMT
#290
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 13 2014 00:18 GMT
#291
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
February 13 2014 00:19 GMT
#292
woah... looks like prime and mvp, along, with the rest of ex-fou should team up lol
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 13 2014 01:36 GMT
#293
ST's SC2 division merging into IM?
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada104 Posts
February 13 2014 03:25 GMT
#294
RIP eSF. The other teams are all dying.
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 04:19:28
February 13 2014 04:17 GMT
#295
On February 13 2014 12:25 Akimbo wrote:
RIP eSF. The other teams are all dying.


the other *team

Startale and Azubu are the only eSF teams left. And technically, eSF has disbanded so they're simply 'unaffiliated' korean teams like Axiom.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
February 13 2014 04:27 GMT
#296
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.

not a big sports fan? picking up players in the middle of a season is a pretty huge part of most team sports
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2014 04:29 GMT
#297
On February 13 2014 13:27 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.

not a big sports fan? picking up players in the middle of a season is a pretty huge part of most team sports

yeah but not absorbing an entire team lol
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 04:40:23
February 13 2014 04:40 GMT
#298
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 04:43 GMT
#299
On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol

You're a big axiom-acer fan and you're going to shit on a team league partnership?
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#300
PL should become BO9 at least.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 04:46:37
February 13 2014 04:46 GMT
#301
On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
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On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol


I don't think it is as much IM blostering their roster. It is likely IM is trying to get some of these players a chance to play. Remember that if you are playing in Korea and not in Code S, you aren't doing much in 3 months except some foreign tournament qualifiers that aren't broadcasted.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 13 2014 05:05 GMT
#302
On February 13 2014 13:46 vthree wrote:
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On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol


I don't think it is as much IM blostering their roster. It is likely IM is trying to get some of these players a chance to play. Remember that if you are playing in Korea and not in Code S, you aren't doing much in 3 months except some foreign tournament qualifiers that aren't broadcasted.


That's even worse. It's only a Bo5, meaning that likely only 4 players will be fielded. And IM is already such a large team. And they want to take even more opportunities to play away from their OWN players so that Hero and the Startale players can get some play time? That doesn't make any sense
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 05:13:40
February 13 2014 05:12 GMT
#303
On February 13 2014 13:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol

You're a big axiom-acer fan and you're going to shit on a team league partnership?


I am not against all teamleague partnerships, just poorly thought out ones. Axiom-Acer partnership was because the individual teams were too small and had difficultly filling a lineup. In addition, the partnership only added about 2 Acer players (Scarlett and MMA, then MMA and Innovation), so it wasn't an excessive increase in players. The two teams already were sharing a teamhouse, and the players really seemed to mesh well in terms of team culture.

Startale and IM are both massive teams by themselves, and should have no issue filling a Bo5. Plus, look at all the people wondering about whether or not Startale is about to disband. That's bad for Startale. Plus, now you have all these players competing for so few playing spots. You have players like Trap, Squirtle, Byul, Ruin, Mvp, Nestea, etc. etc. etc. IM has an insanely deep roster already, and now the team is giving its own players less of a chance to get playing time.

I hated the EGTL partnership as well (even though it was necessary for PL), because it killed the greatest foreign team rivalry. It all depends on the overall strategy of the partnership, and this one doesn't make sense to me.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 05:58:51
February 13 2014 05:57 GMT
#304
On February 13 2014 14:05 Bagration wrote:
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On February 13 2014 13:46 vthree wrote:
On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol


I don't think it is as much IM blostering their roster. It is likely IM is trying to get some of these players a chance to play. Remember that if you are playing in Korea and not in Code S, you aren't doing much in 3 months except some foreign tournament qualifiers that aren't broadcasted.


That's even worse. It's only a Bo5, meaning that likely only 4 players will be fielded. And IM is already such a large team. And they want to take even more opportunities to play away from their OWN players so that Hero and the Startale players can get some play time? That doesn't make any sense


Well, most of their own players are in Code S or WCS NA/EU. UngNim was the only one that wasn't (and I guess Lucky now).
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 13 2014 08:50 GMT
#305
On February 13 2014 05:31 Zealously wrote:
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On February 13 2014 05:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
Do not rejoince. There will be an EG_KT soon...


KT doesn't want to win any more?


You don't want to see JD in PL ? Where's your passion ? You got Life right ? I want my JD. Even if Life AND JD would be destroyed by Shine :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 08:55:54
February 13 2014 08:54 GMT
#306
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
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On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)


Why ? Startale have only one player. and he's a Shine canon foder.

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I love Life. You should be in a better team

Damnit i hit quote and not edit on my post. Sorry for double
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
February 13 2014 11:02 GMT
#307
So much good news today, can't wait for round 2!!
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
February 13 2014 13:21 GMT
#308
So the new team is IMSTTL ? Can they invite MC too ?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 13 2014 13:24 GMT
#309
Would hope that in future proleagues both of those teams and maybe another 1-3 foreign teams could compete on their own.

Anyways, sorry Liquid in the bottom right, but... Life+Mvp too sexy. Send TLO to Korea and we can discuss it anew.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
February 13 2014 13:31 GMT
#310
On February 13 2014 22:24 Big J wrote:
Would hope that in future proleagues both of those teams and maybe another 1-3 foreign teams could compete on their own.

Anyways, sorry Liquid in the bottom right, but... Life+Mvp too sexy. Send TLO to Korea and we can discuss it anew.


Thing is: I would like to see MVP play, he just played a single game this round (iirc).
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 13 2014 13:58 GMT
#311
Cool. I have been dying to see Life in PL.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
February 13 2014 21:10 GMT
#312
STIM FOR THE WIN !

Also, Life will rock PL.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
February 14 2014 07:04 GMT
#313
Startale is not going to die. They are sponsored by red bull. If not RB then who would sponsor esports at all. I feel they gonna stay forever.
And for the hype: Lifuuuuu
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