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IM and Startale to team up in Proleague Round 2 - Page 15

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:05:31
February 12 2014 23:02 GMT
#281
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I'm including all the Western Partnerships as well and there have been quite a few.

On February 13 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
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On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.


It was this or wait until next season (which might not be until a year from now, if at all). Given that Red Bull's sponsorship of StarTale is less significant now than it was and that GSTL is dead, you can't exactly fault them for it.

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On February 13 2014 07:54 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)

Haha has Life really got a winning record vs all of IM?


I'm not sure if he has a winning record against all of them, but he beat pretty much all of IM that one GSL season he won.

Edit: looked it up, winning record against all players even remotely likely to be fielded except Squirtle


My point is they really should have joined with the rest and put the animosity on the back burner because it's best for business in terms of their brand anyway.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:06:12
February 12 2014 23:05 GMT
#282
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I can see where he's coming from though. And certainly neither team looks stellar on its own anymore.

As for past partnerships for Team Leagues, we've had oGs-TL, FOX United, StarTaleQ, EG-TL and AxiomAcer. There was also QIM, before Quantic partnered with StarTale, but as far as I remember that only affected the IPL Team Arena Challenge tournament, and not GSTL. I guess on that note there was also coL.MVP...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 12 2014 23:06 GMT
#283
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)


We liked Squirtle so much we decided to absorb the rest of the team.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 12 2014 23:07 GMT
#284
On February 13 2014 08:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:47 GumBa wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:44 Zealously wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So do we rename it IncredibleTale, or StarMiracle.


We rename it Startale and Some Other Team (SSOT)

The other team that had actual teamleauge sucess? Or doesnt need to partner up with another team to avoid being forgotten


Let's not fool ourselves, IM wanted ST because they needed a player that knows exactly how to beat all of them (Life)


We liked Squirtle so much we decided to absorb the rest of the team.


Fun fact, Squirtle is 10-4 in maps against Life, although admittedly much of that is from when they were teammates. ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 23:07:44
February 12 2014 23:07 GMT
#285
Keep in mind that Startale's main sponsor and MVP's main sponsor are competing energy drinks, so that partnership would be out of the question. I just wish that Liquid would've partnered with someone other than IM. Speaking of "western" partnerships with PL teams, I'd still love to see Jaedong and JYP swoop in and save the day for Prime.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#286
On February 13 2014 08:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:52 StarStruck wrote:
*yawn*

I'm still tired of these type of partnerships. Join on your own boys.

You are the only person who looked at a Startale/IM partnership and thought, "yawn".

You're bored of these? Haven't there only really been three of these (including this one)?


I can see where he's coming from though. And certainly neither team looks stellar on its own anymore.

As for past partnerships for Team Leagues, we've had oGs-TL, FOX United, StarTaleQ, EG-TL and AxiomAcer. There was also QIM, before Quantic partnered with StarTale, but as far as I remember that only affected the IPL Team Arena Challenge tournament, and not GSTL.

I see your point for the number of partnerships. I don't really count a lot of those in the same league as this merger. When I said three I was thinking EG-TL, AxiomAcer, and this one simply based on the caliber of teams and their relative strength being fairly close.

The only other thing I'd like to say is that even though the teams aren't looking "stellar" on their own (especially Startale recently) that IM narrowly missed getting into the round 1 playoffs, and were certainly competitive in proleague without this added talent, so I feel there is room for excitement with this partnership.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#287
I mean yea looking back you can say sure Startale should have just joined in the beginning but we don't really know what went on behind the scenes with negotiations, sponsors, and all that other stuff. I don't see how this can hurt proleague to use it as kind of a bandaid to bring popular players into the league early instead of having to wait until next season. It wouldn't make sense for Startale to join mid season and I would be disappointed to see the partnership go any further than that. Like I said earlier though, I don't think it's really going to have a huge impact on results except maybe for 1 or 2 startale players contributing something notable. It could maybe help viewership and stuff though bringing in more startale fans and people that like popular players like Life.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
February 12 2014 23:44 GMT
#288
They should just merge the teams and bring dat Red Bull money over
HeisenZerg
Profile Joined November 2013
United States7 Posts
February 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#289
This is pretty awesome :D
www.twitch.tv/m__theory - Proleague starts soon!
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 13 2014 00:03 GMT
#290
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 13 2014 00:18 GMT
#291
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
February 13 2014 00:19 GMT
#292
woah... looks like prime and mvp, along, with the rest of ex-fou should team up lol
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 13 2014 01:36 GMT
#293
ST's SC2 division merging into IM?
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada104 Posts
February 13 2014 03:25 GMT
#294
RIP eSF. The other teams are all dying.
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 04:19:28
February 13 2014 04:17 GMT
#295
On February 13 2014 12:25 Akimbo wrote:
RIP eSF. The other teams are all dying.


the other *team

Startale and Azubu are the only eSF teams left. And technically, eSF has disbanded so they're simply 'unaffiliated' korean teams like Axiom.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
February 13 2014 04:27 GMT
#296
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.

not a big sports fan? picking up players in the middle of a season is a pretty huge part of most team sports
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2014 04:29 GMT
#297
On February 13 2014 13:27 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.

not a big sports fan? picking up players in the middle of a season is a pretty huge part of most team sports

yeah but not absorbing an entire team lol
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 04:40:23
February 13 2014 04:40 GMT
#298
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 04:43 GMT
#299
On February 13 2014 13:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 09:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On February 13 2014 09:03 iamho wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to me to let a team suddenly utilize a different team's players right in the middle of the proleague season.


Why not? KT and CJ recently signed new recruits that will likely show up in round 2, IM just got a lot more via a temporary merger. It's within the rules.

Besides, I don't think this is all that groundbreaking. Realistically, I'd only expect Life and Curious to displace any IM players with maybe Hack subbing in for Byul come the ro16 in WCS AM.


Yeah, but KT and CJ signed players and made them a part of the team. This is kind of like the joker rule in the Acer Teamstory Cup, but with an entire team. It's very excessive.

Guess IM doesn't have much confidence in its own roster lol

You're a big axiom-acer fan and you're going to shit on a team league partnership?
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#300
PL should become BO9 at least.
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