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Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
February 10 2014 17:31 GMT
#21
So I fell asleep last night at the 1 hour 14 minute mark.

Im glad I didnt stay up to see the result. The regame was.. wow...
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 10 2014 17:36 GMT
#22
Fuck....so close...
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 17:41:46
February 10 2014 17:40 GMT
#23
On February 11 2014 02:06 Grovbolle wrote:
This 8-0 you speak of, does it include Brood War as well?

Shine was 3-0 vs Soulkey in Brood War, 1-0 in WoL, and he's 4-0 in HotS.
Pure dominance across multiple games. :p
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
February 10 2014 17:42 GMT
#24
On February 11 2014 02:30 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 02:29 nimdil wrote:
Between soo , Soulkey and TY, Flash - I sense TvZ nightmare again.


This, lol.

I dare to say: Brace yourself, TvZ is coming. I'm also dying inside because TvZ was once flag matchup of Starcraft
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
February 10 2014 17:50 GMT
#25
Most boring semifinal ever!!!
Swarmhosts just kill this game.

I spotted also something interesting in Soulkey vs Reality game.
Once the game passed 1h, Reality was still microing his best, moving tanks, placing PDD etc, but Soulkey could generally take his hand s off keyboard, just every couple of minutes move back SW a little bit , well "I HAVE 21 SWORMHOSTS".

And again just one small mistake could have costed Reality the whole game.
This is not fair.
Zerg should be the race which relies on multitasking, runbies, harassment etc. What do we have right now, everybody sees.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
February 10 2014 17:55 GMT
#26
On February 11 2014 02:42 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 02:30 DinoMight wrote:
On February 11 2014 02:29 nimdil wrote:
Between soo , Soulkey and TY, Flash - I sense TvZ nightmare again.


This, lol.

I dare to say: Brace yourself, TvZ is coming. I'm also dying inside because TvZ was once flag matchup of Starcraft


At least Protoss can 2 base allin
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
February 10 2014 18:18 GMT
#27
If you can see a unit revealed by Oracle's Revelation even after it's burrowed, then things may get better. Basically Toss can shoot with Tempest from a long range and Zerg can shoot with Locusts from a long range as well. Although how exciting this is to watch I still have some serious doubts.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 10 2014 18:21 GMT
#28
On February 11 2014 02:50 TW wrote:
Most boring semifinal ever!!!
Swarmhosts just kill this game.

I spotted also something interesting in Soulkey vs Reality game.
Once the game passed 1h, Reality was still microing his best, moving tanks, placing PDD etc, but Soulkey could generally take his hand s off keyboard, just every couple of minutes move back SW a little bit , well "I HAVE 21 SWORMHOSTS".

And again just one small mistake could have costed Reality the whole game.
This is not fair.
Zerg should be the race which relies on multitasking, runbies, harassment etc. What do we have right now, everybody sees.

Zerg has to react, Terran playing campy mech-style forces soulkey's hand. The mech play is just as much to blame as the SHs.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 10 2014 18:41 GMT
#29
I'm glad kinda, that I didn't watch it.

Gonna have to see stork winning thou
The heart's eternal vow
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 10 2014 18:50 GMT
#30
Oh Lord. Glad I decided to go to bed at start of the reality game.. that's ridiculous.

Here's hoping for some bio mine play by KT terran!
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
February 10 2014 18:58 GMT
#31
On February 11 2014 01:44 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 01:39 DinoMight wrote:
That Rain vs. Roro game was so sad. Enduring locusts just makes for such boring games. Rain can't take a fifth because the SH can kill it from far enough away that he can't attack into them. So we have to watch as he runs out of money slowly and dies in a 50 minute game.


Actually, Rain main issue was that he could attack the center base of Roro because of infestors on the high ground. He actually had enough AoE to deal with the hosts, he just could walk up the ramp due to fungals. If he loses his HTs and stalkers from fungals, Roro's corruptors just kills colossi.

And to be fair, if it wasn't for swarm host, it would be Rain trampling Roro with his voidray, dual AoE death ball. Zerg has nothing to combat that if not swarm hosts. Just too much AoE and anti air.


This. The only other viable comp is mutas, and that needs to do significant damage on the first punch, or have a sick economy to trade with...
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#32
YEAH! SKT vs KT finals! THE DREAM!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
February 10 2014 19:08 GMT
#33
Thanks for the writeup. Shine's record against Soulkey is really cool.

As it should be, KT faces SKT in the finals. Here's to hoping for a really exciting number of games, with TY and Flash bringing it home for the best KT.
Flash | Mvp
samwise1993
Profile Joined June 2013
15 Posts
February 10 2014 19:24 GMT
#34
honestly i hate toss and i find this race is op and easy but SH are easily the worse designed unit in the game and should be removed instantly its sad to see those game and i even feel some sorrow for toss when they face sh ... on the other hand without sh zvp would probably be as much imba as tvp is right now ...

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ForLethr
Profile Joined November 2013
80 Posts
February 10 2014 19:31 GMT
#35
If there are no swarmhosts, how can zergs deal with this Reality's style?
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
February 10 2014 19:41 GMT
#36
Zerg has to react, Terran playing campy mech-style forces soulkey's hand. The mech play is just as much to blame as the SHs.


It is just game design that SH require less micro. I don't blame Soulkey for using them.
All in all DK should do sth about turtling styles, cause only few poeple have enough time to watch possibly 5 1h long games during one day.

If there are no swarmhosts, how can zergs deal with this Reality's style?


They cannot.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 10 2014 19:43 GMT
#37
I like Wolf a lot but I seriously had the urge to slap him when he started talking at the end of the series about how incredibly awesome it was. After Game 2 when the swarm hosts came out nonstop I found this series to be practically unwatchable.

Also when I queued up the Twitch VOD this morning, the title of the VOD was "FINAL: KT vs SKT." They've fixed the name now but I sure do appreciate them making sure that it is COMPLETELY impossible to watch Proleague VODs in a spoiler-free manner.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
February 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#38
have to feel for the casters when the games run that long
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#39
On February 11 2014 04:41 TW wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there are no swarmhosts, how can zergs deal with this Reality's style?


They cannot.


Are you sure? Zerg can get their own deathball with BLs, corruptors, infestors and vipers, then as long as they take even a somewhat even fight, remax much faster than Terran can. They could have a faster more mobile army and harass with mutas and lings like Soulkey tried to do very very briefly.

It's not really a useful discussion since SHs might be altered somewhat but they won't be removed or redesigned, but I'm not at all convinced that SHs are the only answer Zerg could possibly have to a deathball. The reason we see them all the time is they're certainly the easiest and most obvious answer.
StarDraKe
Profile Joined January 2009
France65 Posts
February 10 2014 19:51 GMT
#40
Both style are as boring from my point of view. I wanted to watch the game before going to work I ended up being late and killed my phone batterie while watching the end on it. If Starcraft 2 wants to survive we need to fix it, because it was really anticlimax series and they almost did it twice in a row.

Samsung should have played Solar during the serie, that kid is really good and game are very fun to watch when he is in it.
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