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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
I'll be going back to school. I have no plans to stream dota, or any other game right now, as I get very few viewers for it and I feel dumb inviting people to watch me be bad at something. It is possible I'll stream other games in the future, or be involved with esports in general if something interesting and practical pops up, but for the time being that's it for me. Thank you all. 
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
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Aeromi
France14456 Posts
SC/SC2 Community <3 | ||
Shellshock
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DrPandaPhD
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
Trust me it will be the best decision you will ever make  And most of all have fun! | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: But I've never liked the game and I don't see that changing anytime soon so I see no reason to scrape by with no future just for the sake of staying with it. This should be one of the main aspects, people should take a look on. Idra was one of the best players around at one time in this game... Will you be streamin some good old bw? | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
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invisigoat
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zakmaa
Canada525 Posts
 Goodbye Idra, good luck with school | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
Share some news with us from time to time! | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
I have always hoped for you to succeed and there is so much raw talent in you. Take care of yourself, whereever life takes you. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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iMOOrtal
Canada144 Posts
Bonsoir dude. | ||
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Wpcwe
Russian Federation126 Posts
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
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dWarreN
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MadJack
Peru357 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live. Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking. Anyways, you are prolly used to such big things you dont see the whole picture, but gl in school, its always a good thing going back to school at any point in your life. Hope you get into game desing, woudlnt that be awesome ? xD. | ||
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IeZaeL
Italy991 Posts
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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amaDeus
Germany205 Posts
best of luck, thanks for everything! | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote: Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking. Anyways, you are prolly used to such big things you dont see the whole picture, but gl in school, its always a good thing going back to school at any point in your life. Hope you get into game desing, woudlnt that be awesome ? xD. Wouldn't "seeing the whole picture" rather mean thinking about longevity and his future instead of grabbing some short term cash while it lasts? :I | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
You were always my favorite player to watch, and I'm really sad to see you go. Good luck. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote: Hope you get into game desing, woudlnt that be awesome ? xD. That line of career is very dangerous though, I heard there are maniacs threatening to rape game designers with a tire iron running around. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote: Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking. Anyways, you are prolly used to such big things you dont see the whole picture, but gl in school, its always a good thing going back to school at any point in your life. Hope you get into game desing, woudlnt that be awesome ? xD. I don't think you see the whole picture. Because what you described is not what he received. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Heartscry
United Kingdom291 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote: Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking. Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
best of luck | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
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Riquiz
Netherlands402 Posts
Hope to see you do come back to show the casters how it's done once in awhile :3 | ||
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Grettin
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low. Can anyone make a living off of this game as a caster/personality without sponsorships and donations? It seems almost mathematically impossible. I think being a part time caster, doing school and then casting tournaments on weekends or during big happenings like DH and WCS could be a great way to stay in touch with the game and make some extra money on the side as a student, but full time appears pretty much hopeless. | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
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Guilty
Canada812 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
You will be missed! | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:35 Squat wrote: Can anyone make a living off of this game as a caster/personality without sponsorships and donations? It seems almost mathematically impossible. I think being a part time caster, doing school and then casting tournaments on weekends or during big happenings like DH and WCS could be a great way to stay in touch with the game and make some extra money on the side as a student, but full time appears pretty much hopeless. Tournaments are sponsored as well, so that is just sponsormoney too. YOu cannot exclude sponsor money and donations - see them as tips. | ||
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
Hope you still frequent forums and maybe do a thing or two on off time. Hopefully you made some bank from those 2010-2012 paychecks. | ||
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EpicDemente
Chile202 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: I'll be going back to school. I have no plans to stream dota, or any other game right now, as I get very few viewers for it and I feel dumb inviting people to watch me be bad at something. It is possible I'll stream other games in the future, or be involved with esports in general if something interesting and practical pops up, but for the time being that's it for me. Thank you all. Sounds like a no, but will you be streaming any BW; or were you good and tired of that by the time you switched? | ||
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oberkapo
United States41 Posts
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xlnqeniuz
Netherlands30 Posts
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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Valon
United States329 Posts
sad to see you leave the scene completely. But you made a great legacy. You're part of the reason I started playing multiplayer. I always enjoyed your casting. Good luck in school always root for you. Thanks for all the memories. | ||
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jianming
149 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low. The pay is $2k for a weekend of casting. Not $2k for a month of casting 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. Assuming 12 hours a day for 4 days a week (assuming weekend that is actually over half a week long, and half a day of work per day), it's over $40 an hour. That's $24k a year for, say, 12 weeks of work. If you only get to cast one weekend a month. | ||
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
Thanks for creating some awesome memories, and good luck with your future! | ||
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:46 jianming wrote: The pay is $2k for a weekend of casting. Not $2k for a month of casting 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. Assuming 12 hours a day for 4 days a week (assuming weekend that is actually over half a week long, and half a day of work per day), it's over $40 an hour. That's $24k a year for, say, 12 weeks of work. If you only get to cast one weekend a month. Read MadJack's post. He said he would take that kind of pay "for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work" and TotalBiscuit responded to that, not to IdrA. On topic: Good luck, IdrA, hopefully you'll find better opportunities elsewhere. Your accomplishments, whether in BW or SC2, will be remembered. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
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jianming
149 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Read MadJack's post. He said he would take that kind of pay "for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work" and TotalBiscuit responded to that, not to IdrA. On topic: Good luck, IdrA, hopefully you'll find better opportunities elsewhere. Your accomplishments, whether in BW or SC2, will be remembered. Oh, sorry. My mistake. Apologies. Agreed. Good luck IdrA. | ||
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96duckman
United States13 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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Uvantak
Uruguay1381 Posts
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iMOOrtal
Canada144 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:28 MadJack wrote: Hey ill take those couple thousand for working as a caster 9 to 9, 6 days a week, for two monts worth of work, and im not even joking. Anyways, you are prolly used to such big things you dont see the whole picture, but gl in school, its always a good thing going back to school at any point in your life. Hope you get into game desing, woudlnt that be awesome ? xD. I guess someone could say you're probably used to such small things, that a couple thousand for working 9 to 9, 6 days a week seems incredible when in reality it is not something to strive for. 9-9 6 days a week can be done for a time, but that's not a career I would want to be leading either.. Also a couple thousand a month could be $2,000, I make a lot more than $500 a week working 9-4.. with minimal post secondary education. So if ones willing to sacrifice long term gains for fun and games, or if your circumstances are so that you can make more than you do now doing what Greg was, then it works for you and grats. Considering the amount of talent required for this 9-9 6 day a week job for a couple thousand, I don't know man, you would do this, but could you? Have a good one. | ||
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Tryxtira
Sweden572 Posts
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n0ave
180 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low. 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your "WTF is" youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. User was warned for this post | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:38 purakushi wrote: you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbowBest of luck. BW forever. must suck being mentally deficient User was warned for this post | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote: 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. Dude, you've got to be more subtle when you're trying to troll. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote: 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. Learn to read? | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Dranak
United States464 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote: 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. TB said that's what working 12 hr/day, 6 day/week for two months for $2k would average out to, and he's right. I'm sure he knows better than you or I what casting at a major event actually pays while you're there. | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
FUCK IT I HOPE ANOTHER RTS ESPORTS COMES OUT THAT IDRA LIKES AND HE COMES BACK THOUGH THIS IS A VERY FAR OFF DREAM SO I'LL LEAVE IT at that. q_q | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote: 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your WTF youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. Jesus peoples reading comprehensions are low, total biscuit is breaking down the math for the guy who said he take 2k to work 72 hours x 4 weeks. You only make yourself look stupid by attacking total biscuit. But i get ir, hes an "internet" personality so you get the right to shit on him when ever you want. Heres an idea, if you dont like his casting of sc2, dont watch it. GG idra, ill always remember getting 0-2'd by you in WCG qualifiers in bw. Hope everything works out for ya. | ||
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InFaMOUs331
42 Posts
Who knows, maybe that RTS game day9/Artillery are working on will make people return to esports. | ||
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n0ave
180 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:04 Dranak wrote: TB said that's what working 12 hr/day, 6 day/week for two months for $2k would average out to, and he's right. I'm sure he knows better than you or I what casting at a major event actually pays while you're there. Does he work 12 hr/day 6 day/week for $2k? No, it's more like around 12 hr /day , 4-5 day. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
 You are one of the few people who won't be forgotten, I wish you all the best. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:01 Skamtet wrote: you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbow must suck being mentally deficient ? Really get tired of seeing posters call out other posters when they themselves have no idea what the situation is. Purakushi has been around a while. I'm not sure if you forgot about this in your haste to call out another poster...but sometimes people lurk for long periods of time, or even ask to have a new account. Perhaps you would be better served making sure you understand the situation before flaming other posters. | ||
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Dirtyharry
Germany171 Posts
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
Long live BW and normal people. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:01 Skamtet wrote: you write this when you joined tl.net 2012 and jerking over starbow must suck being mentally deficient Just to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy, you can also get into BW today or 1-2 years ago and love the game just as much as someone who was around back in the day. | ||
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MyaurA
United States50 Posts
it's over $40 an hour. That's $24k a year for, say, 12 weeks of work. If you only get to cast one weekend a month Your math is awesome | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Sqorpion
Denmark384 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:06 n0ave wrote: Does he work 12 hr/day 6 day/week for $2k? No, it's more like around 12 hr /day , 4-5 day. Do you have some kind of impairment or deficiency that prevents you from understanding what you read? TB was not talking about his particular case as a SC2 caster, or IdrA's case, or even SC2 casters in general, he was responding to MadJack who put forth the hypothetical scenario of working a 12 hour day, 6 days a week for 2 months for the salary of $2k. | ||
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Lizarb
Denmark307 Posts
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SeeDLiNg
United States690 Posts
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ROOTIllusion
United States1060 Posts
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United States1 Post
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Rataplan
Netherlands109 Posts
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mlm
Austria164 Posts
From someone who stayed up till 6AM to watch your MLG runs and had many heart attacks back in those days because of you. | ||
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United States3097 Posts
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nRoot
Germany928 Posts
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Norway931 Posts
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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n0ave
180 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Do you have some kind of impairment or deficiency that prevents you from understanding what you read? TB was not talking about his particular case as a SC2 caster, or IdrA's case, or even SC2 casters in general, he was responding to MadJack who put forth the hypothetical scenario of working a 12 hour day, 6 days a week for 2 months for the salary of $2k. I know he is not talking about his case, but it's absurd to cry about revenues as a caster, since casters can do so much more in their free time when there are no tournaments to receive additional revenues. And yeah I understand MadJack, there are many people that work 8-10 hours a day, and earn a lot less then $2k/month. P.S I see you are from Eastern Europe master, I wonder how much you earn/month? 2000 $ / month working as a caster is a very good monthly revenue for most. | ||
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polpot
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2576 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:20 n0ave wrote: I know he is not talking about his case, but it's absurd to cry about revenues as a caster, since casters can do so much more in their free time when there are no tournaments to receive additional revenues. And yeah I understand MadJack, there are many people that work 8-10 hours a day, and earn a lot less then $2k/month. Who is crying about revenues as a caster? TB was simply explaining the reality that even if you, as a not-top caster, would accept to work for that kind of money, there isn't even enough work that you could get. How is this so difficult to understand? On February 04 2014 04:20 n0ave wrote: P.S I see you are from Eastern Europe master, I wonder how much you earn/month? 2000 $ / month working as a caster is a very good monthly revenue for most. Bear in mind living costs and prices in general are also much much higher in the West. ;p | ||
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Talic_Zealot
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
GL | ||
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n0ave
180 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Who is crying about revenues as a caster? TB was simply explaining the reality that even if you, as a not-top caster, would accept to work for that kind of money, there isn't even enough work that you could get. How is this so difficult to understand? Why would a caster only focus on casting? If there isn't enough potential work, they should try to focus on something else to increase their revenues. And I doubt there isn't enough work for Idra in this field. | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
GL with school man. | ||
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MasterSmurf
Germany30 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33234 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13387 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:25 n0ave wrote: Why would a caster only focus on casting? If there isn't enough potential work, they should try to focus on something else to increase their revenues. And I doubt there isn't enough work for Idra in this field. The man said it himself: On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: There have also been continual job offers from various parts of the industry that always fail to materialize. If I wanted to continue to scrape out a living I probably could, by lowering standards, accepting donations, and whatever else. But I've never liked the game and I don't see that changing anytime soon so I see no reason to scrape by with no future just for the sake of staying with it. If you don't believe him, there's nothing more that I can say. I'll take my leave now. | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
. Good luck again for your studies. | ||
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
Goodluck Idra | ||
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Anteal
Poland3 Posts
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ETisME
12337 Posts
I was hoping you would write a huge post but I guess this is more of your style. Your game against mvp is still one of my fav game to watch. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
You never liked the game? I hope whatever problems you had with SC2 don^t follow you. I was really enjoying your stream with commentary and all the rage. You commentating a tournament was so much fun! I do agree that there are not enough money in SC2 unfortunately and that there is no point in wasting your life waiting for the money to come. I wish you all the best in the world Sir! PS: strange enough you are the reason i am playing SC2, i was so close to quiting after ladder abuse, cannon rush, bunker, proxy and all the cheese but when i sow you lose to the same shit it made me fell that i was not alone, i learned from your play but i also learned from your rage! :-> Apologize for quiting this game!!! | ||
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delo
United States333 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Good luck in school. | ||
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Teton
France1656 Posts
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Rainman5419
United States92 Posts
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
You'll be missed. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44052 Posts
I'm sure you'll find success in the next chapter of your life as well. You were definitely one of the most important, interesting, and influential foreigners in the SC2 (and obviously BW) scene ♥ | ||
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Bluejava
Sweden135 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Leddix
Denmark25 Posts
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Keytar
Canada156 Posts
Pretty sure at any given college in America there's got to be at least one Starcraft fanboy who will recognize him. Do let us know what ends up happening! Even if in a few years there's a follow-up post with a photo of you graduating. People care about our Idra. | ||
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vjcamarena
Spain493 Posts
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
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yjolie
United States4 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Fearest
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MackTen
United States8 Posts
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:30 ACrow wrote: That line of career is very dangerous though, I heard there are maniacs threatening to rape game designers with a tire iron running around. I nearly spit out my breakfast. | ||
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Gendo
United Kingdom216 Posts
Hope you'll do some events anyways as people enjoy your casting. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
I mean I don't like Settlers of Catan, but when I manage to beat my friends at it I'm thrilled. | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19214 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
I will not forget how you got me into e-sports. Thank you. | ||
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seodoth
Netherlands315 Posts
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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Pandain
United States12987 Posts
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shiroiusagi
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
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figq
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RogerChillingworth
2827 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:46 echO [W] wrote: Feels strange to know that IdrA has left. It's an end of an era. An end of an IdrA. | ||
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algue
France1436 Posts
IdrA has left the game! *Game Over* [Score Screen] [Return To Game] | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
GL with school IdrA! | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
GL in school, I agree that it's probably for the best. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3804 Posts
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isospeedrix
United States215 Posts
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BluHairFrk
United States2 Posts
Thanks for being one of the reasons why I love this game so much! | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Deadbread
Germany143 Posts
you will be missed | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
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MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
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goody153
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United States184 Posts
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dogmeatstew
Canada574 Posts
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United States1482 Posts
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Canada328 Posts
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Marcinko
South Africa1014 Posts
GL HF in the real world. | ||
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United States1360 Posts
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United States2113 Posts
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
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sent1nel
Sweden47 Posts
At one point you were about 90% of what was fun with Starcraft 2. Will never forget your rivalries and runs at major tournaments during your prime. Thanks Greg it was great following you! | ||
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threesxmafia
United States131 Posts
good luck though, with your drive, hard work, and intelligence, i don't doubt for a second you'll be a success there will never be another idra | ||
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China594 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
 Good luck with it all, Greg. | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to claim that I know what's best for you, but making a living off of playing a game you never liked playing doesn't exactly sound like an dream job to me. Even though I'll miss you and all the memories you've given this community over the years, it's hard to feel too sad since you are (hopefully) moving on to do something you really enjoy. Again, thanks for all the hard work and all the time you've put into making this community a more special place. | ||
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Canada225 Posts
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Haku
Germany550 Posts
Always gonna root for you! Sad that you don´t enjoy the game like other do, but you are still an awesome player! Good luck in the future and in the school! | ||
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United States21 Posts
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United States1047 Posts
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Sweden33 Posts
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Great Britain406 Posts
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Diaresta
United States597 Posts
It's really sad to see you go, but I wish you the best | ||
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
While I wasn't a huge fan, I still enjoyed seeing you play back when I started watching WoL. Good times. Good bye and good luck! | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
Hope your future is as exciting as your gaming career! | ||
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United States446 Posts
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United States13818 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
at first glance it just looks like an "SC2 is dying" thread from the old title. | ||
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haer
Sweden15 Posts
You are and forever will be one of my esport heroes. And i do hope that you'll return to do some casting once in a while. The Idra/TotalBiscuit duo is really top notch i feel. Thank you for the games! | ||
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Spykiller
Norway87 Posts
Ill never forget the FOREIGNER fighting in Code S GGs | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:37 Kerence wrote: A couple of thousand dollars for a weekends work once a month sounds like pretty good pay to me, not that you can live by that alone, but still. I guess you'd have to spend free time actually keeping up with the game, but even then it seems like a good deal (maybe less so when you don't like the game). Oh well. While I wasn't a huge fan, I still enjoyed seeing you play back when I started watching WoL. Good times. Good bye and good luck! It is good pay. It just isn't good pay if you can only do it one weekend a month as a full time job. If he goes back to school it would absolutely still be a fun and easy way to make good money on the side. | ||
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MagnuMizer
Denmark384 Posts
Wish you the best of luck, kid. Best of luck... | ||
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iiant14ii
12 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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TT1
Canada9991 Posts
take care | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:37 Kerence wrote: A couple of thousand dollars for a weekends work once a month sounds like pretty good pay to me, not that you can live by that alone, buy still You acknowledge it's not enough to love off of, and them justify that statement with "but still"? If it's not enough it's not enough.. Also longterm, going to school is infinitely a better choice. | ||
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itsdaniel
Austria332 Posts
you did something in korea barely any foreigner could achieve...I feel like most of those stupid sc2 viewers won't even recon (ban? sry) You were always an inspiration, greg, your time and effort won't be forgotten! THANK YOU!! | ||
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BillGates
471 Posts
Before there was Dreamhack, MLG, ESL, NASL, IGN, Asus ROG, Red Bull, etc... but Blizzard had to step in and ruin everything and only have like 1 tournament that is very boring, very predictable, unknown casters, no audiences, if it was bad it they were doing it. So Blizzard ruined esports, at least SC2 esports on their own. They should not have stepped in and tried to consolidate tournaments as it pretty much destroyed the already declining scene. Right now no one watches SC2 anymore, because its not interesting, there aren't enough different tournaments, the best casters are not hired and the duo of Tastosis has gotten boring frankly, after several years of non stop casting, they are boring to me. That is not to mention that Blizzard made SC2 worse than BW, like its not as fun as BW was. The balance is weird, there is not enough variety, not enough skill based, not enough big moves, big spells, like storm was in BW, was EMP was in brood War, like Reaver hits were, plague hits, etc... In SC2 you wait for 10 minutes for the 2 players to get their deathball and then A-move and the winner is the one with the better hard counters. That is SC2 in a nutshell. User was warned for this post | ||
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Canada1441 Posts
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Sirocco
United States23 Posts
I've always been a fan of yours, and I wish you luck in future endeavours. | ||
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United States11933 Posts
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Poland882 Posts
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:43 Zenbrez wrote: You acknowledge it's not enough to love off of, and them justify that statement with "but still"? If it's not enough it's not enough.. Also longterm, going to school is infinitely a better choice. Really now? How many people can actually live of only casting SC2? It's a handful of people. All I'm saying is that it is in fact pretty good money, but you'd have to get another income as well. On February 04 2014 05:51 Erosive wrote: Even if you make a thousand or two on a weekend, it comes down to the general lifestyle of casting/streaming. Siting daily streaming 6-8 hours of a video game daily is not a healthy lifestyle, even though most progamers do it. You become weak, stressed, bored, and a sense of no accomplishments. I'm glad Greg decided to head back to school, it will be better for him. Hope he surrounds himself with active friendly people who will hopefully give him a better judgement of himself. Sometimes it's hard to leave something you devoted so much time into, but in Gregs case, it's for the better good. I enjoyed your casting and gameplay commentary Greg, wish you the best bud! But now you're mixing players and casters. I don't see any of the casters streaming 6-8 hours a day. The only caster I even see streaming Starcraft "regularly" is Artosis, and even he seems to be doing Hearthstone most of the time right now. With Idra's knowledge, he could probably coast on that for quite some time with minimum investment into the game. I also never said going back to school was a bad idea, in fact, I think it's a good idea. | ||
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Austria11528 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:44 Green_25 wrote: I will forever remain puzzled by why so many people gave a shit about Idra It's more puzzling to me why someone would say something like this. He was a good player, entertaining personality, and if you got meet him a pretty nice guy. If you really don't care why are you even commenting on his post? If you want to be edgy or something there is always facebook. | ||
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France3349 Posts
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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Canada25 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
It's like a big brother who you grew up with. He's always been there, always been a part of things. You've played with him, fought with him, even hated him sometimes. But he's always been there. Then one day he moves away, goes to college. Leaves you behind. Only then do you realize just how much his presence filled your house. Only when you see the gaping hole he left in your life do you realize how prominent he was, how he was such an important part of your life. Good or ill, Idra's always been a part of Starcraft. Good luck with college, Idra. GLHF | ||
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Missing-No
Canada50 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:37 Kerence wrote: A couple of thousand dollars for a weekends work once a month sounds like pretty good pay to me, not that you can live by that alone, but still. I guess you'd have to spend free time actually keeping up with the game, but even then it seems like a good deal (maybe less so when you don't like the game). Oh well. While I wasn't a huge fan, I still enjoyed seeing you play back when I started watching WoL. Good times. Good bye and good luck! Even if you make a thousand or two on a weekend, it comes down to the general lifestyle of casting/streaming. Siting daily streaming 6-8 hours of a video game daily is not a healthy lifestyle, even though most progamers do it. You become weak, stressed, bored, and a sense of no accomplishments. I'm glad Greg decided to head back to school, it will be better for him. Hope he surrounds himself with active friendly people who will hopefully give him a better judgement of himself. Sometimes it's hard to leave something you devoted so much time into, but in Gregs case, it's for the better good. I enjoyed your casting and gameplay commentary Greg, wish you the best bud! | ||
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nissespand
Denmark1 Post
Best of luck, and thanks for the games! | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Now he can step back and figure out how to be a great 35 year old. eSports is for the young, the new. Idra should always be remembered as a trailblazer and one of the first people to really make a career of it. He went for it almost before anyone else. | ||
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farvacola
United States18820 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:45 crms wrote: I think going back to school to schmuck it up with everyone else is a bad idea. I think you have enough name recognition and pull in gaming to start working on your career now. You have a starting point, entrepreneurial speaking, that most people dream about. You have unlimited connections to esports, gaming companies etc. that I'd be shocked if you couldn't find gainful employment in this industry. You should definitely quit the streaming personality gig though if it doesn't make you happy. School might be the path you need but I doubt you'll get what you want out of it in the end. You have all the tools you need to start your actual career now I would bet. What sort of ego does it take to think that you know Idra better than Idra? What exactly do you think he's been doing these past months, twiddling his thumbs as his stream numbers drop? My bet is on him doing his best to make this career path work only for it to ultimately prove untenable. Besides, based on his previous school experience, I hardly think he's going into an area of study in which schmucking it up is the soup du jour. | ||
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Germany1586 Posts
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France8 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:52 Broodwurst wrote: You should try flipping burgers, might give another perspective on how much "a couple thousand dollars" per month are worth You should try living in SF. His rent is 2k per month. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
I hope you will return someday to the scene. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:54 dsousa wrote: You should try living in SF. His rent is 2k per month. Why would I try living in an area where I can't afford to pay the rent? | ||
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Lemonayd
United States745 Posts
GL in school | ||
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Neomatrix
Spain33 Posts
GL in school | ||
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Netherlands177 Posts
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Germany25 Posts
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France71 Posts
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United States251 Posts
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United Kingdom158 Posts
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United States82 Posts
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United States18 Posts
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Poland2633 Posts
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crbox
Canada1180 Posts
) and you really were the first non-korean progamer I've followed. I don't know if I would've been as interested in Starcraft in the beginning if it wasn't for you. Hopefully going back to school comes out as a positive experience for you, much respect, ~crBox | ||
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Denmark1413 Posts
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United States973 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:51 farvacola wrote: What sort of ego does it take to think that you know Idra better than Idra? What exactly do you think he's been doing these past months, twiddling his thumbs as his stream numbers drop? My bet is on him doing his best to make this career path work only for it to ultimately prove untenable. Besides, based on his previous school experience, I hardly think he's going into an area of study in which schmucking it up is the soup du jour. exactly. his big "life after EG" post was all about moving in 'many new exciting ventures' and it looks like none of them paid off. The guy might come across stubborn in his games but in life he is probably as rational as anyone else. If it was possible to get Day9 like money he'd probably stick out in Esports but it doesnt seem possible so off to college. | ||
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Poland8852 Posts
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Norway65 Posts
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Canada414 Posts
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Italy198 Posts
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mechanik
Mexico21 Posts
But I've never liked the game .GL and HF at School you'll do great | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:43 BillGates wrote: Yeah its not worth it. There is no money to be made is esports and Blizzard actually ruined it with the global tournament they started doing. Before there was Dreamhack, MLG, ESL, NASL, IGN, Asus ROG, Red Bull, etc... but Blizzard had to step in and ruin everything and only have like 1 tournament that is very boring, very predictable, unknown casters, no audiences, if it was bad it they were doing it. So Blizzard ruined esports, at least SC2 esports on their own. They should not have stepped in and tried to consolidate tournaments as it pretty much destroyed the already declining scene. Right now no one watches SC2 anymore, because its not interesting, there aren't enough different tournaments, the best casters are not hired and the duo of Tastosis has gotten boring frankly, after several years of non stop casting, they are boring to me. That is not to mention that Blizzard made SC2 worse than BW, like its not as fun as BW was. The balance is weird, there is not enough variety, not enough skill based, not enough big moves, big spells, like storm was in BW, was EMP was in brood War, like Reaver hits were, plague hits, etc... In SC2 you wait for 10 minutes for the 2 players to get their deathball and then A-move and the winner is the one with the better hard counters. That is SC2 in a nutshell. User was warned for this post ?? why is this guy warned? Anyway, I hope to still see Idra cast part-time. | ||
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United States42 Posts
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Netherlands291 Posts
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GleaM
United States207 Posts
You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. You're kinda retarded, aren't you User was warned for this post | ||
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Canada39 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. Having been an Idra fan for a while, I'd say it's probably more accurate to say Idra hated SC2, loved BW and loved the community which was brought together by both games. Not that it matters. Please don't muck up this thread, it's nice to see people being respectable towards a veteran's departure. | ||
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United States333 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. >says things a fan would never say >claims to be a fan Okay bro. | ||
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IIMARCII
Canada33 Posts
Good luck with school and whatever else you'll be up to in the next few months/years. I hope to hear about you in the future. Farewell. | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
Great memories! | ||
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GuiBz
Canada108 Posts
I've never liked you shitty nerd, but I wish you good luck gg wp! | ||
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AnonymousSC2
United States189 Posts
That said, he'll be back. I'm sure of it | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. IdrA brought countless and countless viewers to SC2. His bad boy personality gained notoriety in any SC2 circle out there, Korea or not. The past is the past. It's not right to sit there and say he hated this or hated that. How do you know he wasn't pushed to act like that? The numbers spoke for themselves, in an industry, wait for the shocker, is about trying to make money. I hate to BM you but shit-posting on someone saying goodbye and thank you is awful. | ||
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Canada494 Posts
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United States6 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. I like the part where someone who came here after SC2 launch thinks he understands IdrA as a person. And claims to be a fan, after all that bullshit. It's hilarious to me. xD | ||
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United States172 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Assuming he wasn't frivolous with the money he earned (and it never looked like he was), he should walk away from this with a good amount of savings to pay for some good post-secondary education (with extra for the further future), some real life experience, and a good story. | ||
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United States139 Posts
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United States35 Posts
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Rustug
1488 Posts
Best of Health and enjoy school. | ||
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United States1156 Posts
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United States305 Posts
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Ukraine26 Posts
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Netherlands656 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:25 Rustug wrote: Even-though I wasn't a fan it's always sad to see a big personality leave. SC needs big personalities. People you can Love or Hate and you certainly knew how to polarize. Good memories ♥ Best of Health and enjoy school. This sums up my feelings nicely. It's a shame you could never really enjoy the game, but given that it's true this is definitely the right decision. Good luck in the future | ||
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United States594 Posts
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Mensol
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good bye Gracken | ||
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United Kingdom779 Posts
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United States123 Posts
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cabal]
Belgium37 Posts
There is no point in staying in the sc2 scene when you do not like the game at all, neither do I. But the fact is that sc2 is the last good rts game out there. The future with mobas looks grim. | ||
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
Thank you greg, I will never forget you ! Wish you the best | ||
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United States200 Posts
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United States1293 Posts
Goodluck man. | ||
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United States2033 Posts
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BuXa
Croatia2 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:14 GleaM wrote: It'd be pretty BM to say what I'm thinking right now. Guess I'll do it anyway. You hate the community. You hate the people you've been involved with the past several years. You hate the people that signed your paychecks. And you had no problem with letting everyone know. I loved watching you because it was funny to see you get mad. You haven't played at a competitive level in years and the only reason people invited you to things is with the hope you'd blow up. I'm sorry. I'm a fan but I'm sure that I am not the only one to see that you were good for numbers for a bit, but you were not and are not for the community. I can't agree with you completely. He actually did bring a lot of attention and viewers to sc and sc2 which leads to more money and that's a purpose of bussiness. That said, he was also a really, really good and skilled player that understands the game but i would guess he started to hate the sc2 as a game (not so much the people) because of its certain aspects (mostly the ones that enabled a player with less skill win games more easily than in bw) and some of its clearly visible imbalances. I have never been Idra's fan ( I never really liked his attitude much ) but he deserves respect for what he has done for the game. GL in school. | ||
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Hungary2012 Posts
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United Kingdom96 Posts
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United States94 Posts
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Rokevo
Finland1033 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
I felt bad when you had your facepalm moments but they are indeed some of the best SC2 times! GL idra you will be missed ! I'm sorry you always felt like that for the game, because you could have acomplished so much more.. even if just for the money you could have had much better results if not for your poor atitude but it was fun.. GL | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
IdrA.. Don't rage quit. Not this time... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DwogctJ.jpg) | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
Really sad to see you go ~~~ | ||
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Belgium67 Posts
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yocheco619
United States28 Posts
I remember thinking, in the early days of my exposure to the eSports scene, that I would never go to an event. I thought it was lame, nerdy, the usual bs. After getting really into the game that all changed, and I know I had to go to at least one. I was so, SO lucky to have gone to MLG Orlando. Ha, I remember me and my buddy (a big Bomber/Dragon Fan) convinced ourselves, "Alright, we'll go to MLG but we'll make up for it by going to the clubs (Which absolutely sucked)." It was fucking awesome watching you play against bomber. The crowd was so pumped when we realized you were going to win it. My buddy actually completely flipped and starting rooting for the best foreigner in that series. That was a great time man. Thanks for the memories, good luck in school. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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rudimentalfeelthelov
Finland268 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:07 c0ldfusion wrote: ?? why is this guy warned? Anyway, I hope to still see Idra cast part-time. Illuminati Good luck grack, you were an inspiration to many. | ||
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Germany62 Posts
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wierdguy
United States24 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Hope to see you casting every now and then, cause I always enjoyed it. You were basically the reason I got into SC2 eSports at all. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
Good luck bro, I'm sure you'll do fine. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
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RealAnalysis
Canada6 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live. How is a couple thousand dollars + streaming income a month not a "good way to live"? I don't know how much a decent standard costs where IdrA lives, but here in Sweden if I got $3,000 a month for any job I'd be able to live with pretty good standards. I get by off like $1k-$1,5k a month. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:01 ElMeanYo wrote: He'll be back when LOTV hits. I doubt he will be comming back since he only played the game for a job and not for entertainment. I hope to see IdrA again sometime in the future though! | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:02 Zheryn wrote: How is a couple thousand dollars + streaming income a month not a "good way to live"? I don't know how much a decent standard costs where IdrA lives, but here in Sweden if I got $3,000 a month for any job I'd be able to live with pretty good standards. I get by off like $1k-$1,5k a month. Minimum wage in the United States is ~$1.5k a month, if you need that for a reference point. | ||
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Sudan430 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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rehnen
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DreamEater
United States6 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:51 farvacola wrote: What sort of ego does it take to think that you know Idra better than Idra? What exactly do you think he's been doing these past months, twiddling his thumbs as his stream numbers drop? My bet is on him doing his best to make this career path work only for it to ultimately prove untenable. Besides, based on his previous school experience, I hardly think he's going into an area of study in which schmucking it up is the soup du jour. Was I just white knighted by an IdrA fan? This post is so confusing. Ego? What ego? People over estimate what an education will bring you, for the vast majority you get a degree to get a job. Most jobs are pretty terrible cube life where you work for someone else until you retire/die. IdrA is in a unique situation most will never have. You misinterpret my post, it's not about knowing IdrA better than himself, the point of my post was only to entertain other ideas than the landslide of 'good for you go back to school ya'. I believe IdrA has enough clout to get an actual job, no not a feast or famine casting gig, not a streamer, but an actual job, an 8-5 with a profitable esports or gaming based company in an industry he seems to enjoy. Tons of industry and sports figures go this route once their competitive or professional careers are done with. Maybe he can't, maybe I'm wrong and his seemingly infinite connections in this industry are for nothing more than getting a beer once in awhile or a casting gig every few months. Who knows, I just don't think the default of going back to school is always the correct answer like so many seem to think. He is in a unique position and I would wager he could start a career now without having to spend a massive amount of money to get his degree to start working. Again, I could be full of shit, IdrA may not even want to have anything to do with gaming and just wants to go back to Physics, Engineering or whatever suits his fancy. I wish him all the best. I personally would do everything I could to avoid needing to go back to school just to get some 'job'. I imagine someone who has been living on his own schedule for as long as IdrA has, might feel the same. | ||
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monXikk
Poland742 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:35 Squat wrote: Can anyone make a living off of this game as a caster/personality without sponsorships and donations? It seems almost mathematically impossible. I think being a part time caster, doing school and then casting tournaments on weekends or during big happenings like DH and WCS could be a great way to stay in touch with the game and make some extra money on the side as a student, but full time appears pretty much hopeless. Makes you wonder how much ProTech makes. On topic: Thank you for your dedication Idra | ||
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Canada1441 Posts
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Portugal21 Posts
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Czech Republic245 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
Good luck Idra! | ||
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United States2147 Posts
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Canada2084 Posts
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Germany5427 Posts
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:46 Kerence wrote: Really now? How many people can actually live of only casting SC2? It's a handful of people. All I'm saying is that it is in fact pretty good money, but you'd have to get another income as well. But now you're mixing players and casters. I don't see any of the casters streaming 6-8 hours a day. The only caster I even see streaming Starcraft "regularly" is Artosis, and even he seems to be doing Hearthstone most of the time right now. With Idra's knowledge, he could probably coast on that for quite some time with minimum investment into the game. I also never said going back to school was a bad idea, in fact, I think it's a good idea. I think hearthstone is the way to go now for people involved in esports. But continuing education can't be a bad thing. The energy industry needs all the help it can get, and programmers are always in demand. | ||
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Jutranjo
Slovenia140 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
always be one of my biggest rolemodels in more than a few ways~ | ||
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lolmanpro
Finland11 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Indeed you were the beat villian. | ||
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Maasked
United States567 Posts
Enjoy life, carpe diem. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Seems like a solid and logical choice. GLHF | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:26 lolmanpro wrote: I guess we will just have to find some other mediocre pro who swear at people in game when losing and act bm towards the community in general. Life goes on. I don't think that is a fair statement at all, you don't seem to know how much Idra has done for the foreigner community. | ||
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Philippines399 Posts
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United States390 Posts
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Finland4400 Posts
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Poland115 Posts
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Canada8550 Posts
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United Kingdom191 Posts
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GinDo
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EDIT: Also, have you decided on a major? | ||
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United States1539 Posts
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Estonia17413 Posts
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United States37 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
in part because of awful ad rates and in part because of continually declining viewership Its time to switch to dailymotion/motioncreed, the pay is way more interesting than twitch Otherwise cya Idar, you had a long career since Bw you can be happy. Also going back to school after all these years will not be easy, i experienced it myself but after some time we'll synchro with it. | ||
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Canada7 Posts
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China13814 Posts
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United States515 Posts
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Thrill
2599 Posts
You could definitely live on as a personality though. If you don't see how to, you're blind. Edit: i mean even if you're going to school, it'll be a much better part time job than anything else you can find and burning through your savings doesn't seem wise. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:58 iMOOrtal wrote: I guess someone could say you're probably used to such small things, that a couple thousand for working 9 to 9, 6 days a week seems incredible when in reality it is not something to strive for. 9-9 6 days a week can be done for a time, but that's not a career I would want to be leading either.. Also a couple thousand a month could be $2,000, I make a lot more than $500 a week working 9-4.. with minimal post secondary education. So if ones willing to sacrifice long term gains for fun and games, or if your circumstances are so that you can make more than you do now doing what Greg was, then it works for you and grats. Considering the amount of talent required for this 9-9 6 day a week job for a couple thousand, I don't know man, you would do this, but could you? Have a good one. I'm a doctor with 7 years of studying and a specialist contract, and I work 8-6 at the very least plus 1 24 hr shift a week I make a bit more than 2k a month So yeah casting looks appealing | ||
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Swisslink
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But Stephano showed one thing: Just turn away from the game completely seems really hard, or almost impossible, even if you don't really like it. It was a huge part of their life, and even if it is just for some events once in a while, I think it'd be great to see him again. Everything else has already been said, you were one of THE foreigners for many many years and there's nothing more to say but "good luck for the future". | ||
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United States784 Posts
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United States2084 Posts
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United States785 Posts
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
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Australia484 Posts
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United States2702 Posts
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Raziers
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On February 04 2014 07:44 Thrill wrote: I respect the fact that you won't be accepting donations. You could definitely live on as a personality though. If you don't see how to, you're blind. Edit: i mean even if you're going to school, it'll be a much better part time job than anything else you can find and burning through your savings doesn't seem wise. Theres a difference between "live on" and "earn enough to enjoy life" | ||
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Double Trouble
Sweden4 Posts
I think you are the best caster out there as of now. I hope you still can cast tournaments now and then as a part time job! I'll be going back to school. I have no plans to stream dota, or any other game right now, as I get very few viewers for it and I feel dumb inviting people to watch me be bad at something. No offence, but people don't like your streaming, casting, and analysis in general because you're a great player. We like you as a person (at least your online version). It would be extremely interesting to follow you as you learn to play dota! | ||
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Thrill
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On February 04 2014 07:45 mordk wrote: I'm a doctor with 7 years of studying and a specialist contract, and I work 8-6 at the very least plus 1 24 hr shift a week I make a bit more than 2k a month So yeah casting looks appealing You can't make that comparison. How much is a loaf of bread in Chile? | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:50 Thrill wrote: You can't make that comparison. How much is a loaf of bread in Chile? I'm not sure, but a can of coke here costs something like $2, a bit less right now. Plus it still looks appealing, I'd be bringing those 2k from casting here, so I would earn pretty much the same | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:27 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: So I take it we won't be getting more episodes of Imbalanced LOL. gl Idra, you will do well in anything you pursue. Your father will be happy to learn you quit, could get back into communication him again as I heard you two haven't talked since you got into esports... | ||
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Romania1222 Posts
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Iceland49 Posts
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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United States148 Posts
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Canada306 Posts
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Hong Kong956 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
He was the first big thing in a blossoming industry that had an amazing future ahead of it. Idra's story IS the story of SC2. Full of hate of self loathing, the community and its hero's killed the golden goose. | ||
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Korson
United States47 Posts
By the way, those void rays were hallucinated. | ||
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Nashi
Sweden61 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:02 Zheryn wrote: How is a couple thousand dollars + streaming income a month not a "good way to live"? I don't know how much a decent standard costs where IdrA lives, but here in Sweden if I got $3,000 a month for any job I'd be able to live with pretty good standards. I get by off like $1k-$1,5k a month. Must be a shitty job if you get 1500 dollar a month. You know that one dollar is like 5-6kr now days. Or was it something that I read wrong? Sad to see him leave. I loved Idra. He was my favorite sc2 player (never played broodwar). Alot of people hated him. Sure. But he was still an amazing player when he really wanted to be. | ||
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
Good luck in whatever you pursue in your future, for what it's worth, consider me a fan for life | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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HoodedAvatar
Canada115 Posts
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
Best of luck in the future. | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
Come on TL from time to time... | ||
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Zenniv
United States545 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
BW is picking up pace though.. Not interested? | ||
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United States2053 Posts
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StarStruck
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DuBlooNz
United Kingdom103 Posts
GLHF with everything IdrA | ||
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perrysnagy
United States32 Posts
On February 04 2014 08:20 Azelja wrote: You should totally write a book about your experiences in Korea during both BW (especially BW) and early SC2 and how it was from your perspective to be a foreign progamer and making it into eSTRO, I'd so buy that :D Good luck in whatever you pursue in your future, for what it's worth, consider me a fan for life Agreed. Book please! Greg "Idrajit" Fields The reason I first fell in love with SC2 and the reason I play Zerg. You will be missed GL HF GG Grack. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:00 n0ave wrote: 3$ an hour as a caster? Really? it's more like 35-40$, plus accommodation. Your comment disgust me TB, I understand that you become a Youtube star and you are making a tone of money, but if you don't find casting to be rewarding please stop and spend those weekends to improve your Youtube channel. I like your "WTF is" youtube show, but your starcraft 2 commentary was always mediocre since you never really understood this game. User was warned for this post And here we have the reason I don't post much anymore | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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Andromedan
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
anyway we will all miss Idra. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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GspotTornado
Sweden1 Post
(Been lurking on TL since 2008 but had to show respect for a legend.) | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
I don't really play anymore either, but I am secretly hoping that the next Xpack does something spectacular. Maybe players like yourself would return. Good luck to you. | ||
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Damian_SC2
Germany8 Posts
im happy | ||
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pivor
Poland198 Posts
And lets face it SC2 is not that good. | ||
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Omnidroid
New Zealand214 Posts
Goodbye and good luck! | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
farewell | ||
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TeamBanished
United States301 Posts
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High[5]
United States61 Posts
I've been a fan since beta and I only said a few words to you when I met you in person at MLG Orlando in 2011. Thanks for your autograph there; you signed it right in the middle of my box without asking (I was very glad you did!), so it's the best thing I have from you. Being in the crowd and cheering for you in that series versus Boxer was great. Maybe you could stream actual Brood War every once in a while? Maybe even some StarBow? Good luck in the future. | ||
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United States5064 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
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Getting a good future in a career you enjoy is significantly better than living as a pauper doing something you don't like. It's a bit of a strange feeling having followed your career since BW and seeing it at this point years later, but it's been a hell of a ride. Best of luck. | ||
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zyce
United States649 Posts
I'm going to miss watching you play an awful lot, Greg. You're incredibly talented and intelligent, and I'm sure you'll be great at anything you choose to do. I'm sorry that some people held you to different and unpredictable standards, and I know how frustrating those situations get when you're so passionate about success. Best of luck Greg. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17628 Posts
sad to see Idra go, gl for the the future | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
Good luck with school! | ||
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Baha
Spain64 Posts
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theinfamousone
United States103 Posts
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pivor
Poland198 Posts
Im hearing that it hits streamers harder and harder. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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Canada16217 Posts
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monsta
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France35 Posts
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United States7483 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:20 chrisolo wrote: This should be one of the main aspects, people should take a look on. Idra was one of the best players around at one time in this game... Will you be streamin some good old bw? no he wasnt ? or i dont remember the time ... he was a MONSTER in sc1 and he was (from foreign point of view) the best player with nony ... but in sc2 ? meh he not really archieved anything, always when it was "nearly" to something, his own mentality throw the wins away ... he most of the times beat himself it just was never his game and for all who LOVES the game, it was sometimes so frustrating see him hating the game whining etc even forming this nowadays typical zerg whining attitute as mainstream behavior ... dont get me wrong i liked him in sc1 and i found it funny see him loosing and raging but parts of me are happy its over best of luck in your future and i hope you get all what you want and where you not have to rage rl you dont rage that much so perhaps esport isnt the right thing gogo rl ! ^^ | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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umade
Sweden172 Posts
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Canada74 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On February 04 2014 09:09 Drake wrote: no he wasnt ? or i dont remember the time ... he was a MONSTER in sc1 and he was (from foreign point of view) the best player with nony ... but in sc2 ? meh he not really archieved anything, always when it was "nearly" to something, his own mentality throw the wins away ... he most of the times beat himself it just was never his game and for all who LOVES the game, it was sometimes so frustrating see him hating the game whining etc even forming this nowadays typical zerg whining attitute as mainstream behavior ... dont get me wrong i liked him in sc1 and i found it funny see him loosing and raging but parts of me are happy its over best of luck in your future and i hope you get all what you want and where you not have to rage rl you dont rage that much so perhaps esport isnt the right thing gogo rl ! ^^He won several premier tournaments, including an MLG and an IEM (and the very first IPL), high finishes in multiple premier tournaments and major tournaments, and was the first foreigner to consistently do well in GSL and he made code S. IdrA was obviously very good at the game and was for a time one of the top players. | ||
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Ethoex
United States164 Posts
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dislike
Germany54 Posts
good luck. good bye. no gg. no re. | ||
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United States937 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
Good luck with everything...you were my hero for a long period! | ||
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sagefreke
United States241 Posts
Professional gaming is really not a profession one should strive for. You were great to watch and I always liked watching your streams. | ||
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Canada1521 Posts
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TLADT24920 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7858 Posts
On February 04 2014 09:18 Beef Noodles wrote: This is by far the saddest thread I've seen on TL. Good luck IdrA Well, if he never liked the game it only makes sense. I don't think you should go or continue into such a hard and unpromising career if you are not really, really passionate about what you are doing. Good luck to you Greg. I never supported you, but I do wish you all the best. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
If not I hope he enjoys going back to school. | ||
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
If he never liked the game, why play it on the first place? Well... Farewall Idra! | ||
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United States136 Posts
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Taiwan931 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
thanks for all the memories, many great memories | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 04 2014 09:54 Yezzus wrote: Damn =[ come play LoL, a game thats actually big and theres alot of money to be made! And one that literally no SC2 pro has become successful in. Good call. | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On February 04 2014 09:43 Hydro033 wrote: What are you studying? I remember you mention Gould's evolutionary biology work on an episode of Unburrowed. Biology perhaps? Some sort of science? didn't he mention that he was going to study physics originally. I think it would fit him very well, so many deterministic systems to study, very little room for coinflips! | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Games are about fun... people tend to forget this sometimes. Still, thanks for all the entertainment in all the years since like 2007 Broodwar, and Good Bye, streamer! Also carriers are a nice skill toi have. | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On February 04 2014 10:01 TotalBiscuit wrote: And one that literally no SC2 pro has become successful in. Good call. I wasnt talking to you random | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
mlg shouldve hired you and not fucking catz and destiny | ||
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Mantisdolphin
United States29 Posts
Best! | ||
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Glueburn
United States496 Posts
Did you just call total biscuit a random? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Does that make you less wrong? | ||
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
Good luck in your future endeavors! I hope to hear from you again in the future! :D | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On February 04 2014 10:02 Caladan wrote: So basically, what you saying, Idra, is that streaming SC2 as a non-pro-player, is not paying your fees. That's not really surprising. But shouldn't playing a game be about fun? So the explanation why you are quitting SC2 should be, because you don't have a *good time* anymore, not because you are not getting enough paid as a non-pro-gamer... Games are about fun... people tend to forget this sometimes. Still, thanks for all the entertainment in all the years since like 2007 Broodwar, and Good Bye, streamer! Also carriers are a nice skill toi have. Playing video games can be a job, which is what it clearly was for Idra. Idra's situation is really no different than any other person who works/worked a good paying job that they really didn't like - they simply did it because it paid well. Idra played SC2 because it paid well, not because it was fun - and now that it doesn't pay well, he's moving on. | ||
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Philippines491 Posts
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Singapore368 Posts
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
GG | ||
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United States5049 Posts
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Costa Rica2390 Posts
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
On February 04 2014 09:37 Biff The Understudy wrote: Well, if he never liked the game it only makes sense. I don't think you should go or continue into such a hard and unpromising career if you are not really, really passionate about what you are doing. Good luck to you Greg. I never supported you, but I do wish you all the best. I meant more sad, because I got into SC:BW during the "IdrA era," and was always a big fan | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
All the best in your future endeavors. | ||
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United States953 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
But I've never liked the game why oh why did you play zerg? as a very turtle-style terran, u would've been much more successful as toss in sc2. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2014 10:37 TeeTS wrote: He never liked the game at all and stayed around for so long... Wow, that´s really hard to understand. He was making good money and he enjoyed the competition (he commented that he disliked the game always but loved the competition and that feeling of winning). People do a lot worse, for less money (in terms of people hating their job and making shit money). | ||
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
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United States163 Posts
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Salmacis
France44 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
). Was a lot of fun | ||
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United States83 Posts
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SidewinderSC2
United States236 Posts
Best of luck in school. | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
Personally, I'd like to remember Idra the way I remember him during the WoL Beta and the first couple of GSL seasons. There was a time when he was considered the best foreigner out there--- and those were brighter days for our game. | ||
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Fucking shit game ruining the scene, thanks Blizzard! User was warned for this post | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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ThePastor
New Zealand380 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:09 Zoler wrote: No one that played BW likes SC2. Everyone just plays it because of sponsors and money. Fucking shit game ruining the scene, thanks Blizzard! Lies and generalisations! I played BW and I love sc2. | ||
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Canada2869 Posts
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United States38 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 04 2014 10:47 Tufas wrote: Why did you ever switch to zerg ggmaybere Well, he was Zerg in BW before he was ever Terran. His aka even used to be HungZerg. However, he loved Nada too much and his zvt style of staying on lair wasnt as good as time went on. It feels like zvp would have fit him a lot more than tvp too cause it is a lot more reactive and macro-based though. Before he went to Korea, he was playing tvz, tvp, pvt in clan wars and stuff too. Then, at start of sc2, he was Protoss and switched to Zerg. He hated pvp, listened to Artosis etc. | ||
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United States1841 Posts
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Heat_023
Canada160 Posts
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
Starbow, the community's RTS, will save Starcraft!!! I hope... | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:24 Heat_023 wrote: Leaves me with an empty feeling really. You were my favorite player ! I heard that. Empty is the word, this fucking sucks. Meh. | ||
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Cassalina
United States65 Posts
take care <3 | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
Good luck with your studies, and I hope you get to make a good career out of it after you complete it. | ||
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Canada183 Posts
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:09 Zoler wrote: No one that played BW likes SC2. Everyone just plays it because of sponsors and money. Fucking shit game ruining the scene, thanks Blizzard! Yeah Let's pretend there would be an international circuit of lans for BW if SC2 didn't exist PS: I like both games | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On February 04 2014 08:17 Nashi wrote: Must be a shitty job if you get 1500 dollar a month. You know that one dollar is like 5-6kr now days. Or was it something that I read wrong? Sad to see him leave. I loved Idra. He was my favorite sc2 player (never played broodwar). Alot of people hated him. Sure. But he was still an amazing player when he really wanted to be. That's not my income, it's my expenses or whatever, how much I spend on rent/food/bills etc while having a decent standard. I'm just confused as to how some people refer to a couple of thousand dollars a month "not an income to live off", guess they must live in really expensive places. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Olenji
United States7 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UE8OU.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/O1HPu.gif) bye grack. | ||
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corpsepose
1678 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:36 TitusVI wrote: When a star in sc2 dies, a star in lol is born. can you give an example please | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:33 Ace Frehley wrote: Yeah Let's pretend there would be an international circuit of lans for BW if SC2 didn't exist PS: I like both games Broodwar was 20x bigger in Korea alone, then SC2 at its peak internationally. PS. I love both games. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
No because that star is just born. Wait 18 years. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Thank you for everything you contributed both to the broodwar and sc2 communities. I used to eagerly steal replays of your play in broodwar as often as possible when I was learning the game in 06/07. I also used to root for you to get on TV when you were with estro, then CJ...always holding my breath checking those OSL prelim results every other month or so. From crazy long hair days at that first wcg bw LAN (in like 2004? 2005?) all the way through 2014, thanks for basically a decade of memories sir. | ||
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SwallowTheSun
Canada53 Posts
Was really something special. Take care and thanks for all the great moments. | ||
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schmoozah
Brazil3 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
But you are right income dictates it all. I wish you best of luck in whatever career you will pick for the future. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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bosnia
Canada223 Posts
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
And btw where is the emergency broadcast of ITG or Unfiltered?! | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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SantosPhillipCarlo
United States351 Posts
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UberNuB
United States365 Posts
All the best, but cutting ties with the community completely doesn't seem like the best option. | ||
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zerK
Canada176 Posts
see ya. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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deo1
United States199 Posts
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renlynn
United States276 Posts
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bacoatc
El Salvador26 Posts
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TundrA.
Canada35 Posts
best wishes | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
I always got that vibe to begin with. pc greg | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On February 04 2014 12:22 UberNuB wrote: I don't fully understand why you wouldn't go to school and stay casting for weekend tournaments. Seems like a good way to make a couple thousand a month with pretty low commitment. All the best, but cutting ties with the community completely doesn't seem like the best option. a very good point here. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Weekdays = Studying time. IdrA isn't as stupid as you guys make it to be. He got all this shit figured out. Well hope to see him developing the first Time Machine to go back in time to change Blizzard's SC2 team as a physicist. | ||
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devgchr
United States104 Posts
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NanashiStarCraft
Germany48 Posts
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Mvrio
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Diminisherqc
Canada220 Posts
**nope , youre all a bunch of fucks, and i get paid to treat you like it , its fucking awesome.** i'm glad your out.however good you were. btw those voidray were hallucinated. | ||
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SuperEight
United States333 Posts
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vitruvia
Canada235 Posts
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NeuroticPsychosis
United States322 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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JP Dayne
538 Posts
On February 04 2014 12:52 Diminisherqc wrote: -idra may 8 2013 **nope , youre all a bunch of fucks, and i get paid to treat you like it , its fucking awesome.** i'm glad your out.however good you were. btw those voidray were hallucinated. Just sayin' He wasn't kill I for one will not miss Idra. | ||
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xxjcdentonxx
Canada163 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
I suppose, there's always TLS. | ||
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Survivor61316
United States470 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:10 WolfintheSheep wrote: Minimum wage in the United States is ~$1.5k a month, if you need that for a reference point. Umm..its not even close to that. Its $7.25/hr | ||
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nGBeast
United States914 Posts
On February 04 2014 13:23 JP Dayne wrote: Just sayin' He wasn't kill I for one will not miss Idra. same. the only time he enjoyed the game is when people were paying him, he burnt all his bridges and realized he can't make money doing jack shit. | ||
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-JoKeR-
Canada387 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
Starcraft is like a first love. You may break up with her, but you'll still think about her way more than you should... | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
see ya. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
Wish you would stream a little bw for old times sake though haha.. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On February 04 2014 13:43 neoghaleon55 wrote: He'll be back. Starcraft is like a first love. You may break up with her, but you'll still think about her way more than you should... except for idra starcraft is brood war for idra starcraft 2 is some game that was blatantly not the one he loved but a cheap rip off | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On February 04 2014 13:50 KDot2 wrote: I'll drink to that.except for idra starcraft is brood war for idra starcraft 2 is some game that was blatantly not the one he loved but a cheap rip off | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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gorbonic
United States73 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10098 Posts
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uh-oh
Hong Kong135 Posts
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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UmbraaeternuS
Chile476 Posts
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SkaPunk
United States471 Posts
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
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slicknick
United States14 Posts
GL with school | ||
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CrazyHunter
United States83 Posts
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BVRHNT3R
United States15 Posts
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On February 04 2014 14:51 BVRHNT3R wrote: Karma is a bitch. You get what you deserve. Hope this teaches you a lesson about biting the hand that feeds you. Yeah I'm sure he's going to have a rough time having all that school paid for and I'm sure hes going to be upset with all those friends he made. | ||
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Pangpootata
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Australia41 Posts
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United States1229 Posts
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On February 04 2014 12:52 Diminisherqc wrote: -idra may 8 2013 **nope , youre all a bunch of fucks, and i get paid to treat you like it , its fucking awesome.** i'm glad your out.however good you were. btw those voidray were hallucinated. Typical quebecer trash. Why do you morons so often feel the need to put qc in handles? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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RoninColt
United States18 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
gl in the future, smart choice. | ||
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vidium
Romania222 Posts
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:35 vidium wrote: Better players than idra retired and nobody cared this much. I dont get it, why the big fuss? He's white. USA and EU are predominately white. We all had such high hopes for all our white players. | ||
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Asturas
Finland587 Posts
Well, for me it is end of an era. Idra was very important for community. Very unique. | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:22 RoninColt wrote: Some people make less than 2k a month working 40+ hours a week and would be more than happy to give all that up to do some thing they love. Well he just said that it's not really something he loves. If someone with passion wants to make money streaming, theoretically he would be making room for them. also, @ the guy wondering why there was so much fuss. IdrA has been a pretty big name in foreign starcraft and starcraft 2 for a long time. The fact that he has > 10k posts on TL should indicate why him leaving is a big deal. | ||
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HomeAlone
Canada4 Posts
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NiHiLuSsc2
United States50 Posts
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RoninColt
United States18 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:40 packrat386 wrote: Well he just said that it's not really something he loves. If someone with passion wants to make money streaming, theoretically he would be making room for them. also, @ the guy wondering why there was so much fuss. IdrA has been a pretty big name in foreign starcraft and starcraft 2 for a long time. The fact that he has > 10k posts on TL should indicate why him leaving is a big deal. Yeah, I thought about that after I posted.. But it's still difficult for somebody to understand why he'd want to do something different. Can't grasp how you can't love this game, even then to be involved with Esports alone. I didn't see his viewership being that low of numbers combined with the occasional casting gig, I'd be happy financially. But he is pretty well educated and most likely will be successful either way. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
Watching the VoDs available for SC2:WoL at that IPL you had won... It left me inspired. Knowing your story let me know that a foreigner can kick ass. You and stephano will always leave everlasting impressions on me, Greg Fields. I will miss you. | ||
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Belgium4169 Posts
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:35 vidium wrote: Better players than idra retired and nobody cared this much. I dont get it, why the big fuss? Because Idra was absolutely legendary in bw and sc2. sc2 he was only a monster in 2010/2011, but in 2010 if he didn't win the tournament he entered, it was considered a fluke for him. He's also been an icon for the scene for many years. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:57 TBone- wrote: Because Idra was absolutely legendary in bw and sc2. sc2 he was only a monster in 2010/2011, but in 2010 if he didn't win the tournament he entered, it was considered a fluke for him. He's also been an icon for the scene for many years. plus all the tasty hate he generated. All those viewers who tuned in to watch his rage and tears and were so often rewarded. He really was the greatest heel, truly like an American Wrestling performer at his best. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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kamphare
Norway2 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
Sounds like a new House show | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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pivor
Poland198 Posts
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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IcemanAsi
Israel681 Posts
Thank you very much for all the great games you've given us! gg wp! | ||
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ChosenBrad1322
United States562 Posts
Can't believe IdrA didn't capitalize more on his time while he had the chance. I think at one point about 2 years ago people were lining up by the hundreds willing to pay $200+ per hour for coaching. I would have been coaching 18 hours a day lol... and he was like "fuck that I'm not coaching" | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Anyway, good luck in your future, you were an icone for some people i guess. | ||
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ChosenBrad1322
United States562 Posts
On February 04 2014 16:35 Faust852 wrote: I don't get you'd stuck with a game you don't like for 3 years. You're lying to yourself saying that, you just realize you lost in fame and change path. Anyway, good luck in your future, you were an icone for some people i guess. Sure he would, he was making over a $100,000 / year... why wouldn't he ^^ A lot of us would do something we don't like if we got $100,000+ / year for it. | ||
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harelk1
Israel11 Posts
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Maybe IdrA can pull of a "Creolophus" but will be hard! | ||
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Mekare
Germany393 Posts
All the best to you, I hope everything works out as you want it to. Stay angry | ||
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tredogz
Canada170 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
Considering he doesn't like sc2 I really look forward for him to participate in tournaments like TLS. | ||
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
SC2 without idra is like Boxing without Mike Tyson | ||
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Osaka27139 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
On February 04 2014 16:23 fireforce7 wrote: A very mellow dramatic farewell to his fans and the community...maybe it was for the best =/. its this way because it was a long time coming.. and i think we all felt it coming too. ill just say that we all probably know that he wont be the last big name to do this either | ||
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Tabashi
Belgium129 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
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JayChey
United States92 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Bye IdrA Sad Panda is sad | ||
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d0n
Germany143 Posts
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utyske
Denmark185 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
You have always been fun to watch, even though I have always rooted against you. But someome has to have that role also Good luck! | ||
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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SaWse
Belgium102 Posts
My interest has gone done with you fading into irrelevance. Good luck with your studies and life. | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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bretfart
114 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6278 Posts
On February 04 2014 17:24 Malinor wrote: I've never been a big fan, but it was fun watching you nonetheless. Nice and honest last post Why would this be his last post? This is actually the perfect time for him to say everything he thinks about SC2 without the fear of Blizzard or someone cracking down on him. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:35 vidium wrote: Better players than idra retired and nobody cared this much. I dont get it, why the big fuss? IdrA is the man, man! He entertained us all and mostly put up awesome fights against many good players! Regarding his whole history in Starcraft, this man is a legend. At last, it's not only the skill that counts. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Edit: oh great, he edited his post so I sound more insane than usual. | ||
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UberNuB
United States365 Posts
On February 04 2014 18:28 zeo wrote: Why would this be his last post? This is actually the perfect time for him to say everything he thinks about SC2 without the fear of Blizzard or someone cracking down on him. Are you saying he held something back in fear of Blizzard/sponsors? This is the guy that called the community, "a bunch of fucks." What could he have possibly held back... | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
Please don't forget to drop by on TL to flame someone every now and then. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 04 2014 16:19 TAMinator wrote: Dr. Greg Fields Sounds like a new House show Except the genius of House and the good looks and amazing talent of Hugh Laurie. I don't care too much about this announcement, for me his career was over once EG booted him out. Going back to school would have been the right decision then, and it's still the right decision now. With three years of EG salary and tournament winnings, he can go to any Ivy League school he wants and live comfortably for the duration of his studies. He also has the discipline to excel in any field he's interested in, so the future will be bright and shiny for him. And a bonus for the community: we don't have to deal with his obnoxious, toxic personality any longer. | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On February 04 2014 15:35 vidium wrote: He's white. USA and EU are predominately white. We all had such high hopes for all our white players. Vidium, you might want to say "foreign" instead of "white". | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: Even if you could get that much work, which you can't, that is terrible pay compared to almost any other job in the US. Assuming 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and 9 weeks into 2 months, that's $3.08 an hour, disgustingly low. And yet it is the reality in many, many places of the world. | ||
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samscraft
United Kingdom65 Posts
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Lambertus
South Africa966 Posts
On February 04 2014 18:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: This sounds like the right decision. Respect for that. Please don't forget to drop by on TL to flame someone every now and then. I second that :D | ||
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pepper_
Japan65 Posts
All the best with school! <3 | ||
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
Thanks for all the fish! | ||
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NoSoldier
Germany84 Posts
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Eclipso
11 Posts
It continues to be true that you're a deeply talented individual with a promising future ahead of him -- if only you can keep your ego in check and let up with the Dunning–Kruger effect. The fact that you have lots of potential doesn't mean you're born King and don't need to improve yourself. We all need to improve ourselves. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
Good luck in school and thanks for entertaining us over years! | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
I wish you all the best for your future and hopefully you will make a comeback after you finished school.Stay BM and cya <3 | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Fallen33
United States596 Posts
Just so you don't think I'm a creeper, we chilled in BW in [iscp] | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
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thirtyapm
521 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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RESOqub
51 Posts
I'd milk every dollar out of that before going anywhere. I'll never wish anyone bad luck, even someone that was unpleasant and dislikeable and far too convinced of his own intellectual superiority, so I wish you good fortune. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
I had forgot about this vid. This made me fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOOL at work and my co workers are wondering "wtf is going over at my desk". THE best SC2 compilation next to the Fruitdealer compliation vid. Man, I'm gonna miss Idra so much. This is him being AT THE VERY TOP of his game and funny as hell. | ||
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
On February 04 2014 20:30 RESOqub wrote: I dunno man. If you can get $2k for a weekend of work once a month I'd do it. You've got a fucking long road ahead of you before you get anywhere academically, nevermind with an easily searched background of abusive and aggressive behaviour easily available for anyone who bothers to do even the slightest amount of background research. I'd milk every dollar out of that before going anywhere. I'll never wish anyone bad luck, even someone that was unpleasant and dislikeable and far too convinced of his own intellectual superiority, so I wish you good fortune. What Tournament would pay 2000dollars for 2 days casting, if the prize money (what attracts viewers) is at the same level? Sad thing. SC2 is out. | ||
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Vadoff
United States3 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 04 2014 20:36 plgElwood wrote: What Tournament would pay 2000dollars for 2 days casting, if the prize money (what attracts viewers) is at the same level? Sad thing. SC2 is out. What tournament would pay 2000 USD for IdrA's 2 days casting, you mean. Artosis makes that in an evening. | ||
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qlimaxx
Croatia7 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/804/images.jpeg){kind=icon} User was banned for this post. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1965 Posts
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On February 04 2014 16:25 pivor wrote: I think streaming should not be taken as as viable source of income, at least not as your only/main one. It was designed mainly for entertainment. Livestream and uStream were for entertainment. Justin/twitch.tv is for trying to get rich off playing videogames. | ||
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renkin
France249 Posts
Good luck for your future projects. | ||
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nevermore86
United Kingdom108 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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digmouse
China6327 Posts
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GhostFiber
Australia88 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMxabc0ey7E | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
On February 04 2014 11:11 zasg wrote: Lies and generalisations! I played BW and I love sc2. I dont think this is as black and white. I dont like SC2 in general but I do play it from time to time (thou i did not buy HoTS, i stayed at WoL). I belive SC2 to not be as interesting and rewarding as BW, but It has some strong points with itself (Great UMS maps for example). I talked to a few BW great players who moved to sc2 and most of them agree that SC2 is not as fun, but it does bring cash, so its what they play. Others thou, belive SC2 to be a great game, however so far it feels like its a minority. SC2 has seen some decline in its popularity, and it seems like Its a steady decline so far... Since Im not a great sc2 fan, Idra leaving should have no importance to me, but somehow him beeing so bad mannered I cant help but to feel Its good that he leaves. | ||
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sotaporo
Finland195 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:46 iloveav wrote: I dont think this is as black and white. I dont like SC2 in general but I do play it from time to time (thou i did not buy HoTS, i stayed at WoL). I belive SC2 to not be as interesting and rewarding as BW, but It has some strong points with itself (Great UMS maps for example). I talked to a few BW great players who moved to sc2 and most of them agree that SC2 is not as fun, but it does bring cash, so its what they play. Others thou, belive SC2 to be a great game, however so far it feels like its a minority. SC2 has seen some decline in its popularity, and it seems like Its a steady decline so far... Since Im not a great sc2 fan, Idra leaving should have no importance to me, but somehow him beeing so bad mannered I cant help but to feel Its good that he leaves. comparing games made early 2000's to todays games yes sc2 ain't that great of a game, but when you compare only games made late 2000's early 2010's it is great game. i enjoyed bw and still enjoy sc2 and thats my view=) | ||
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SorrowShine
698 Posts
Idra is not the best personality for the esports, and we know why. We have already one villain and its Naniwa. So its just better for everyone if it was his last post... Never gonna miss him | ||
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ArchangelJada
Canada910 Posts
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:17 nevermore86 wrote: Well he really needs to work on his attitude or he'll just fail miserably in the real world. I guess he'll rediscover his "love for the game and the scene" right around the first exam period and unretire as e-sports personality. I can already tell he's a great deal more intelligent than you are... perhaps he was unnecessarily rude at times but how he acted was mainly a persona, a persona which effectively made his career! At the end of the day, he really was being paid to treat people and the scene in a poor way... kinda blunt of him to say so but he was very much spot on. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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ImAdonis
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Encore22
Sweden1 Post
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
Best of luck. | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:54 sotaporo wrote: comparing games made early 2000's to todays games yes sc2 ain't that great of a game, but when you compare only games made late 2000's early 2010's it is great game. i enjoyed bw and still enjoy sc2 and thats my view=) well, i played broodwar since 2004 until SC2 came out, and i gotta say i love SC2, for some it is fun, for some not, you can't generalize this | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:46 iloveav wrote: I dont think this is as black and white. I dont like SC2 in general but I do play it from time to time (thou i did not buy HoTS, i stayed at WoL). I belive SC2 to not be as interesting and rewarding as BW, but It has some strong points with itself (Great UMS maps for example). I talked to a few BW great players who moved to sc2 and most of them agree that SC2 is not as fun, but it does bring cash, so its what they play. Others thou, belive SC2 to be a great game, however so far it feels like its a minority. SC2 has seen some decline in its popularity, and it seems like Its a steady decline so far... Since Im not a great sc2 fan, Idra leaving should have no importance to me, but somehow him beeing so bad mannered I cant help but to feel Its good that he leaves. Most Quake World/3 players don't enjoy Quake Live, but they realize that that's the only way to make money off of Quake today. | ||
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On February 04 2014 22:38 KvltMan wrote: Most Quake World/3 players don't enjoy Quake Live, but they realize that that's the only way to make money off of Quake today. lol. No sane person would play a game they don't enjoy for the amount of money in Quake right now. | ||
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Tivu
United States244 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
well poor you, maybe you shouldn't have sh*t in your fans, so you'd still be considered a good gamer (I avoided the word pro or professional on purpose). BTW I am not a hater, just wanted to remind you of some things... there are "normal" people out there. And I hope you treated the people you met on your way up, nicely (considering it's you, I doubt it, but I still hope you are the person you were as a caster, not what you showed us as a gamer), you meet them again on your way down. Not having good job offers may be a result of that. I have to add: you did an awesome job casting, I liked your casts more than watching your games/flames and hope you return one day. Anyways good luck in school and leading a normal life. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:22 invisigoat wrote: No one can replace you <3 Good Luck in school! be nice to the other school children. In school, you get punched for the behaviour you had online... | ||
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Serek
United Kingdom459 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:17 nevermore86 wrote: Well he really needs to work on his attitude or he'll just fail miserably in the real world. I guess he'll rediscover his "love for the game and the scene" right around the first exam period and unretire as e-sports personality. You do realise that most entertainers have a public persona that brings revenue while often being completely different in their private lives? I suppose people not understanding this distinction is why reality TV is so successful. | ||
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Phantom_Sky
Hong Kong512 Posts
and play some hearthstone while you have some time | ||
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
if he really wanted to, he could cast in a lot more events, too, and add a few to that. I wonder how active and passionate he was trying to get big jobs. others would do a lot of things to get into a position he was in. i guess im happy he leaves room for people that really want to cast starcraft. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On February 04 2014 23:27 Serek wrote: You do realise that most entertainers have a public persona that brings revenue while often being completely different in their private lives? I suppose people not understanding this distinction is why reality TV is so successful. maybe most entertainers, ye. but starcraft players/casters? no, not rly. most of them show a lot of their true selves. Day9 probably doesnt, most others are "real" | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On February 04 2014 23:43 KalWarkov wrote: maybe most entertainers, ye. but starcraft players/casters? no, not rly. most of them show a lot of their true selves. Day9 probably doesnt, most others are "real" lol Day9's persona is as real as a pink unicorn! I think nobody seems to be more artificial when doing shows them him. | ||
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MiQ
Canada312 Posts
GL IdrA! | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1597 Posts
On February 04 2014 22:38 KvltMan wrote: Most Quake World/3 players don't enjoy Quake Live, but they realize that that's the only way to make money off of Quake today. Updating graphics yes is probably the only way to sell games now with maybe the exception of minecraft. But just having pretty graphics doesn't make games great. I played SC BW alld the WC and Diablo series. Games by blizzard were more complete games back then. So, why can't these companies make solid games with upgraded graphics? | ||
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Eclipso
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
BTW can we see you play BroodWar?I will be very happy to see you do it. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
The tone this sets seems consistent with the steady decline the scene has been experiencing | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On February 04 2014 21:17 nevermore86 wrote: Well he really needs to work on his attitude or he'll just fail miserably in the real world. I guess he'll rediscover his "love for the game and the scene" right around the first exam period and unretire as e-sports personality. You're an idiot, he had scholarship offers to study theoretical physics before taking up full time Starcraft. | ||
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seoul_kiM
United States545 Posts
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
Thanks for everything that you gave us man.. The games, the casts, the events, the fun, the comments, the streams.. Thanks for everything GL HF in life man | ||
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baiesradu
Romania150 Posts
Esports is in its infancy . It is kept alive by people more through their passion than through the money pumped in the industry. All sports have had this phase . You had a way to make a lot of money from esports . You lost your passion for the game .You fucked up . You had an amazing experience and now it's over. I hope you find something else that gives you passion in your life . Congratulations on the decision not to stay just for the money . Thank you for what you did for Starcraft . In my opinion you were your biggest enemy , in the end . Radu . | ||
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Gruntt
United States175 Posts
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oBlade
United States5409 Posts
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aicaramba
Netherlands110 Posts
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Sata_
Belgium82 Posts
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Arkani
Austria60 Posts
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
you provided an integral role in the community by being the villain and that won't be forgotten any time soon. I have felt the same way BW > SC2 but that's unimportant as it is a personal view. I only wish that I could continue to play BW from time to time, if only for the personal challenge that the game provides. Unfortunately it doesn't run properly on my pc :/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMxabc0ey7E | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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traderjoe
Germany69 Posts
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xxjcdentonxx
Canada163 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
But man, the educational system in Unis is so fucked. Any specialty you want to take, you need to take years of pre-reqs which have 0 pertinence to your actual career and a total waste of time. All the while you're memorizing billions of useless pieces of information and not making any money. I'd suggest casting the occasional tournament as, even rusty, you're one of the best in the bus. Best of luck. You were the first player I cheered for and I will never forget your legacy. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
He built his viewership around being a top contender, and showcasing a higher level of play/understanding of play than anyone else outside of Korea, but that simply isnt the case anymore so his viewership fell off. Also coinciding with the steady decline of Sc2 viewership, was kind of a perfect storm resulting in horrible stream numbers for him. IDK. I have followed him since BW, when he was the Great White Hope, but he has been openly spoken throughout the entire length of SC2 that he didnt like the game and the direction its gone in/continues to go in. Also, who would be willing to take the risk of having him insulting the wrong people/player and getting hatemail etc, too much risk involved with making him a figurehead of your esports department, too toxic, which IMO has always been his "thing" that he has been known for since BW. Wish nothing but the best for him in the future, wish he could have gotten a constant gig as an analyst somewhere, but being a popular caster has very very little to do with analysis, its about entertainment and silly antics to stay relevant which werent really his thing. and to the post above me... you make horrible decisions. You are just lazy and want to hang out and play video games for a year. If you were good enough to warrant postponing school for a year, you would already have a career as a successful player like Suppy, who was a pre-med major, and still a top competitor. Not to mention, you are essentially jumping onboard a sinking ship... I feel sorry for whoever is footing your bill of being a lazy PoS for a year. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On February 04 2014 23:41 KalWarkov wrote: just a few thousands a month from casting. if he really wanted to, he could cast in a lot more events, too, and add a few to that. I wonder how active and passionate he was trying to get big jobs. others would do a lot of things to get into a position he was in. i guess im happy he leaves room for people that really want to cast starcraft. how ignorant can you be? rofl. Im sure he was seeking every single opportunity possible... where are these casting opportunities you speak of? Do you think the weekly cups with their $100 prize pool pay their casters? lmao.... he was prob top 10 in sought after casters and he still was scraping by... Im sure if he could have casted more tournaments he would have...you are just so ignorant I could take days telling you how stupid you are to actually believe the stupidity you wrote... User was warned for this post | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On February 05 2014 04:11 MaestroSC wrote: and to the post above me... you make horrible decisions. You are just lazy and want to hang out and play video games for a year. If you were good enough to warrant postponing school for a year, you would already have a career as a successful player like Suppy, who was a pre-med major, and still a top competitor. Not to mention, you are essentially jumping onboard a sinking ship... I feel sorry for whoever is footing your bill of being a lazy PoS for a year. Whaaaaa...? You're judging and insulting some random guy for wanting to try playing Starcraft for a year, calling him names and being a jerk without knowing anything about the circumstances surrounding what he's attempting, and you're doing it in a thread dedicated to saying farewell to Idra? What the fuck did you smoke to convince yourself this was a good idea? | ||
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GCNova
United States22 Posts
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Eclipso
11 Posts
I'd tune in and sure enough, there was Idra using the same builds, making the same mistakes, raising the same balance whines, to the same soundtrack. Diligently for five to seven hours a day back when he was training hard. He was hard-working, but lacked passion. This was apparent from his stream; everything was done slovenly and there wasn't even any replay analysis. Maybe he could have been the best foreigner even without the passion (Stephano managed it for a while), but his bad attitude prevented him from seeing where he was going wrong. And that was the main difference between Idra and Stephano: Stephano would see an obstacle and work around it with some ingenious new tactic; Idra would give up before he'd even racked his brain, and whine about how the game is unfair. It's kind of tragic, as I really believe that without the bad attitude dragging him down Idra would have been even better than Stephano. Idra has the stronger work ethic and IMO a more cogent sense of strategy. Unfortunately his Achilles' heel destroyed him in the end and prevented him from being competitive even on the NA GM ladder. But never mind, the game will be dead within a few months. This is all nostalgia now. Let's hope that Idra improves his attitude and lives up to his great potential in some other field than Starcraft. | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
Good on you. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
PS: Lol @ all the people thinking SC will die. Funny guys. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
For heaven's sake - what makes anyone here think that IdrA gives one fuck about whatever advice people are writing out in this thread? It's ridiculous. All this idle talk...all this speculation...all that's really needed are goodbyes. And if you hated IdrA...didn't like him...can't you just be satisfied with him leaving for school, instead of soiling the thread with crap? As I said, without all this professionalism bullshit holding you back, here's to hoping you play some BW! L_master was right on the money, rofl ! | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
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mTwRINE
Germany318 Posts
Good luck in the future. | ||
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doggy
Germany306 Posts
On February 05 2014 05:17 mTwRINE wrote: You deserve every $ and fame you made with the risk and commitment you took way before anyone could tell that/how big SC2 would become. Good luck in the future. This. It may seem nice to get a couple thousand dollars monthly for casting, but its getting time to think long-term so school is a great decision, best of luck! | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On February 05 2014 03:40 xxjcdentonxx wrote: I'm now more interested in IdrA's competitive BW career. Does anyone have a guide with videos of the important, interesting and exciting matches? I'd be especially interested in IdrA's own opinion of what those would be. It would be nice if TL could write an article strictly about his BW career and not go into his involvement in SC2 or get all behind the music about it. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
Good luck on your future ventures! | ||
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testthewest
Germany274 Posts
On February 05 2014 04:21 RaZorwire wrote: Whaaaaa...? You're judging and insulting some random guy for wanting to try playing Starcraft for a year, calling him names and being a jerk without knowing anything about the circumstances surrounding what he's attempting, and you're doing it in a thread dedicated to saying farewell to Idra? What the fuck did you smoke to convince yourself this was a good idea? Chill bro. He is just giving him a good advice. Wasting a year to play SC2 in a phase of your life, where the switches are set that determine the rest of life is downright stupid. So you are wrong: We know a few things about this fine gentleman: He is a young fellow think about postphoning his studies for a year of gaming. If he just chooses wisely and put efford in it, it will pay of alot more than SC2 ever could. Just saying that because that's the way I did it. Now I was offered a job for about 12k $/month. And I am sure you can do even better. But not by playing SC2 for a living. Play it for fun, that's the way! | ||
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Zeedsc2
Germany8 Posts
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looken
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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nextstep
Canada705 Posts
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
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brtd90
United States49 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
your real fans will always support you in case you decide to come back, but definitely the right move. ur too smart to waste time with an industry this volatile. | ||
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Zerganator
United States4 Posts
Goodbye IdrA Starcraft will never be the same without you, you will be missed :') | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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InFaMOUs331
42 Posts
![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9x1ddmT3a1r3k31xo1_1280.jpg) We will miss IdrA! | ||
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Runar_121
Sweden21 Posts
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happycowie
Canada3 Posts
Please let us know if you decide to stream anything else and we will keep on supporting you!!! | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On February 05 2014 10:11 Mistakes wrote: God this is starting to depress me a bit with these tribute videos. It's like the dude died. =\ IdrA might have died but he gave birth to Dr. Greg Field. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On February 05 2014 11:05 Xiphos wrote: IdrA might have died but he gave birth to Dr. Greg Field. Dr. Grack. | ||
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
On February 05 2014 11:05 Xiphos wrote: IdrA might have died but he gave birth to Dr. Greg Field. I think you meant to say Dr. Greg Heals | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5492 Posts
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
Greg "Idra" Fields. Scholar, Video Game Enthusiast, Profession Competitor, Cyber Athlete, model for inspired bad boys everywhere. | ||
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
I'd like to share one of my favorite IdrA games vs MVP during MVP's WoL domination. It was just a ladder game but it was such a big deal at the time. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 05 2014 13:49 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I think you meant to say Dr. Greg Heals Lol! I hope he's good at school/his subjects. I would REALLY hope he doesn't complain that X subject is stupid or imbalanced 'cause he doesn't get it or something. He always seemed like a normal, level-headed person outside of competitive SC2 or sc in general. I really think he needs this to get away from all that shit. Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain IMO | ||
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GnoM
Norway145 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
( basically my favourite player, only one that i've kept watching ever since i've stopped keeping track of starcraft. you will be missed. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
Thanks for all the memories, good and bad, and good luck with school. There'll never be another Gracken! | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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allqwdd
Taiwan10 Posts
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Eclipso
11 Posts
On February 05 2014 15:19 Clicker wrote: Wow. Epic. Idra at his best can wipe the floor with anyone. I'd like to share one of my favorite IdrA games vs MVP during MVP's WoL domination. It was just a ladder game but it was such a big deal at the time. If only at some point he'd dedicated a week (just a week) to learning the theory behind ZvP, the timings and the appropriate responses -- instead of telling Huk and Minigun that their playing style is dumb when they come at him like P is supposed to do. (Or alternatively, whining that they're turtles if they cannon up for a macro game.) | ||
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hillman
United States162 Posts
No you didn't hate the game, you just hated not winning as much as you thought you deserved. Then you complained about it non-stop. You should have gone back to school years ago, and I think you will need work on your perspective before you can achieve any success going forward. That said - he was my fav. player and America's hope - which is why I'm so butthurt about him not working out - go be a god damn engineer or something and crush it Greg... | ||
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oBlade
United States5409 Posts
On February 05 2014 20:49 hillman wrote: Never liked the game? LOL, no you only dedicated your life to it for years - but i'm sure you hated it.... He didn't say he hated it. He said he never liked it. And I'd sooner believe he knows what's going on in his own brain than believe that you're a telepath and know better than he does. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On February 05 2014 20:16 Eclipso wrote: Wow. Epic. Idra at his best can wipe the floor with anyone. If only at some point he'd dedicated a week (just a week) to learning the theory behind ZvP, the timings and the appropriate responses -- instead of telling Huk and Minigun that their playing style is dumb when they come at him like P is supposed to do. (Or alternatively, whining that they're turtles if they cannon up for a macro game.) (Or making a talk show about how the Collosus is imbalanced.) Anyway, interested in what he will study. I have this vague memory reading somewhere that he was interested in physics, but no idea if I made that up. gl hf nonetheless. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3673 Posts
On February 05 2014 21:41 oBlade wrote: He didn't say he hated it. He said he never liked it. And I'd sooner believe he knows what's going on in his own brain than believe that you're a telepath and know better than he does. Plus I think it's very apparent that his decline in success was mainly due to him being unhappy about the game. You can't become godly at anything if you keep thinking about how much you dislike it and how much better the previous game was, and I feel like the inability to separate his play from his opinion on star 2 ended up being his downfall. Besides the fact that he was probably the most predictable player on earth. All that being sad, I am really happy for him that he no longer forces himself to spent 8+ hours a day on something he never liked to begin with, I just hope school and w/e awaits him afterwards actually makes him happy. | ||
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Grenadieris
Latvia33 Posts
I was always rooting for you in any tournament, hoping that you would take the top spot. You were a very entertaining player, all the bm and rage provided a certain flair to you, which many pro players lacked. Really sad that you never enjoyed the game, but I understand your decision and wish you best of luck. Goodbye, Mr Fields. | ||
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quebecman77
Canada133 Posts
I have played sc2 about 5000-6000 games, was keeping playing this game i don't enjoy for the money probably for the same reason that you, the 2-3 tournament here and there, 200buck and other money make me keep playing until Oct, but then one day after a big tournament where ended up third place for win almost NOTHING... I say FUCK IT I don't enjoy this game, I have gone back to school and got a nice job about 2 months ago who pay me 3-4x more that some random tournament in a game full of random balance patch.... And my life really good too, got a nice girlfriend now and we are talking about buying a house, got many old friends back who I was not even talking anymore because I was in a team house playing 24/24h sc2 each day. you do the right thing, sc2 not a good life anyway!! | ||
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Titan999
Denmark67 Posts
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Grovbolle
Denmark3804 Posts
On February 05 2014 15:19 Clicker wrote: There was a period in which I had quit playing and for the most part stopped watching entirely. I kept up with events, but didn't actively watch them. I made one exception and that was for IdrA's stream. I knew it was only a matter of time, but it doesn't make it any easier. I'd like to share one of my favorite IdrA games vs MVP during MVP's WoL domination. It was just a ladder game but it was such a big deal at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmEWrxklf8U I watched that vod so many times. | ||
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
Yeah I watched that live on stream and at least 5x since then.. | ||
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crazyweasel
607 Posts
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SaintFrancis
Canada46 Posts
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dravernor
Netherlands6181 Posts
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jagtress
Canada32 Posts
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Noc-
Finland850 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: I tweeted a few days ago that I would no longer be streaming starcraft, I was going to leave it at that as I've barely done anything with the game the last month anyway, but there's been enough questions about it I figured I outa write something. Over the last 6 months or so streaming revenue has been nearly nonexistent, in part because of awful ad rates and in part because of continually declining viewership. Casting sc2 tournaments pays very poorly, when considered a significant part of a full time job. A couple thousand dollars for a weekend of talking about a game seems nice, but when it happens maybe once a month it is not a good way to live. There have also been continual job offers from various parts of the industry that always fail to materialize. If I wanted to continue to scrape out a living I probably could, by lowering standards, accepting donations, and whatever else. But I've never liked the game and I don't see that changing anytime soon so I see no reason to scrape by with no future just for the sake of staying with it. I'll be going back to school. I have no plans to stream dota, or any other game right now, as I get very few viewers for it and I feel dumb inviting people to watch me be bad at something. It is possible I'll stream other games in the future, or be involved with esports in general if something interesting and practical pops up, but for the time being that's it for me. Thank you all. Oh, this sucks. You've been one of my favorite persons(with only MMA maybe) in Starcraft for the whole time I've been a part of this community. Sad to see you go, but I'm fine with it if it's the best option for you. This whole leaving EG thing was so sad. I think it was the beginning of all this. I was so sad when you told you wouldn't be playing as a progamer anymore, but I was happy you decided to continue on casting. Well, that casting was damn good! I think you were becoming also one of my favorite casters. That analyzing especially was very good. I'm sorry you didnt earn enough with it. I also liked the talkshows so much, like ITG! Oh I miss those times. Only thing I'm a little upset in that post is saying you never even liked the game. Well you've been saying that for like forever, but I'm sure you liked it even a bit. Being a part of this community for so long, playing the game, casting, everything..cmon. But hey I guess that's just you being you. Good luck in the school and future! I hope we will see you here again! You are a legend. | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia917 Posts
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Cauldron
Finland125 Posts
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DeadPan1897
Belgium4 Posts
On February 05 2014 20:49 hillman wrote: Never liked the game? LOL, no you only dedicated your life to it for years - but i'm sure you hated it.... No you didn't hate the game, you just hated not winning as much as you thought you deserved. Then you complained about it non-stop. You should have gone back to school years ago, and I think you will need work on your perspective before you can achieve any success going forward. That said - he was my fav. player and America's hope - which is why I'm so butthurt about him not working out - go be a god damn engineer or something and crush it Greg... Most pro's who've been around since BW don't like SC2 nearly as much as BW, the fact you're so arrogant to say he didn't hate the game but just hated not winning as much as he thought he deserved is mindblowing. Everyone knows he didn't like SC2, or at least not the way the game is played (the deathball game and the fact it's not always the best player winning). The fact you even think he needs to change his perspective to have any success, again, is mindblowing to say the least. If he didn't have the paycheck he had when he was under EG's wing, it's safe to say he would've ditched the game long time ago. Glad he's going back to school, in the end he'll come out better this way than trying to make ends meet by spending his time in a game he doesn't/can't/won't appreciate. (can't blame him) | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On February 06 2014 03:22 DeadPan1897 wrote: Most pro's who've been around since BW don't like SC2 nearly as much as BW, the fact you're so arrogant to say he didn't hate the game but just hated not winning as much as he thought he deserved is mindblowing. Everyone knows he didn't like SC2, or at least not the way the game is played (the deathball game and the fact it's not always the best player winning). The fact you even think he needs to change his perspective to have any success, again, is mindblowing to say the least. If he didn't have the paycheck he had when he was under EG's wing, it's safe to say he would've ditched the game long time ago. Glad he's going back to school, in the end he'll come out better this way than trying to make ends meet by spending his time in a game he doesn't/can't/won't appreciate. (can't blame him) Agreed. I think its infinitely better for him, and for everyone that he goes on to college and to pursue a real career rather than begging for donations like most have turned to. IIRC He had a physics scholarship to a highly ranked school but turned it down to compete in BW in Korea, so its not like he isnt capable of really making something out of himself career-wise. And he can always do esports stuff for fun on the side. | ||
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Symbioth
Poland103 Posts
I remember the times of SC:BW, when Idra went to Korea. Obviously, this was extremely impressive in itself but what was far more impressive is that Idra actually managed to stay there for a long period of time. If you take into account the practice regimen and typical schedule of Korean progaming teams, it was virtually impossible to withstand for someone who grew up in the western culture and yet, Idra somehow did it. Also, I think there were far more haters back then than now. It was expected that Idra would beat every foreigner with ease due to his training in Korea but things didn't always go that way and many people looked for every opportunity to hate on Idra. I think it's truly amazing how Idra was able to ignore that, not worry about the all the vicious comments and, instead, focus on his goals and keep pursuing them, as if the haters didn't bother him at all. To me, however, the greatest feature about Idra was his personality. As far as I'm concerned, Idra was probably the most interesting personality of e-sports. We all know what Idra's typical behavior was - but I think the various expressions of bad manner, or unpredictible conduct like leaving the games early, really suited Idra and added that unique flavor to his attitude which shaped his persona into an irresistibly interesting character. Idra was simply one of those guys who continously generate stories around themselves and in my mind, stories are a critical part of what fuels e-sports. I think his attitude was a huge contribution to the community and individual's experience of starcraft. I genuinely hope that the conditions around e-sports will enable Idra to return to e-sports one day. I hope you will be happy with the decision you have made, Idra. Best of luck, you will be missed ! | ||
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Sherlock-Canada
Canada269 Posts
On February 05 2014 23:47 quebecman77 wrote: Hey man good move!! You would know me in sc2 but I'm loving to keep touch witch the community with a random name so people don't know I'm who,but we were in the same team in brood war,that was long ago before you have go to Korea then you have start to do really well in Broodwar day,then sc2 came out and you played really amazing but I know you hated sc2,just like me but you have keep playing and today you finally stoped,seriously you are doing the best move you could do right now to stop sc2 if you dont enjoy it!! I have played sc2 about 5000-6000 games, was keeping playing this game i don't enjoy for the money probably for the same reason that you, the 2-3 tournament here and there, 200buck and other money make me keep playing until Oct, but then one day after a big tournament where ended up third place for win almost NOTHING... I say FUCK IT I don't enjoy this game, I have gone back to school and got a nice job about 2 months ago who pay me 3-4x more that some random tournament in a game full of random balance patch.... And my life really good too, got a nice girlfriend now and we are talking about buying a house, got many old friends back who I was not even talking anymore because I was in a team house playing 24/24h sc2 each day. you do the right thing, sc2 not a good life anyway!! how could this be anyone but smuft... | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
It's all a moot point now since sc2 is on it's last dying breath, but if esports as a whole is to make it, toxic players such as this need to retire earlier. | ||
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
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DeadPan1897
Belgium4 Posts
On February 06 2014 07:11 fishjie wrote: Never liked the guy, he had a horrible attitude and blamed all his losses on everyone but himself. He constantly criticized others for being awful, yet was never any good at the game either, memorable only for his rage quits when he was either even or ahead. He then got fired from eg because he kept telling people he wanted them to die of cancer. All his fanboys were enablers and when he made the comment about being paid to treat them badly (the comment that cost him his job) it was funny cause it was true. It is funny that someone who hated the game so much stuck around so long. It's all a moot point now since sc2 is on it's last dying breath, but if esports as a whole is to make it, toxic players such as this need to retire earlier. How can you be so ignorant lOl.. He was easily one of the top foreigners at a certain point in WoL. | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
On February 06 2014 08:42 DeadPan1897 wrote: How can you be so ignorant lOl.. He was easily one of the top foreigners at a certain point in WoL. Everything is relative. Given how much trash he talked about legitimate players, he was not good. Even casual players such as cruncher that idra called a walkover would go on to curb stomp him in the tsl. its sad/funny seeing someone talk trash and yet have absolutely nothing to back it up. he never really had any results to back up all the vile hatred that he spewed toward better players. As far as foreginers go, stephano, scarlett and naniwa all surpassed him. he was good early on, but so were many foreigners. even during that era, jinro was vastly superior to him. that period of WoL where foreigners could do well was more because the game hadn't been figured out yet. | ||
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RedBack
Australia102 Posts
On February 06 2014 09:38 fishjie wrote: Everything is relative. Given how much trash he talked about legitimate players, he was not good. Even casual players such as cruncher that idra called a walkover would go on to curb stomp him in the tsl. its sad/funny seeing someone talk trash and yet have absolutely nothing to back it up. he never really had any results to back up all the vile hatred that he spewed toward better players. As far as foreginers go, stephano, scarlett and naniwa all surpassed him. he was good early on, but so were many foreigners. even during that era, jinro was vastly superior to him. that period of WoL where foreigners could do well was more because the game hadn't been figured out yet. Oh Geez go away, it was people like Idra who kept things becoming a sterile snooze fest like they are now. Will miss you Gracken | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 06 2014 04:58 Symbioth wrote: That is very sad news. I remember the times of SC:BW, when Idra went to Korea. Obviously, this was extremely impressive in itself but what was far more impressive is that Idra actually managed to stay there for a long period of time. If you take into account the practice regimen and typical schedule of Korean progaming teams, it was virtually impossible to withstand for someone who grew up in the western culture and yet, Idra somehow did it. Also, I think there were far more haters back then than now. It was expected that Idra would beat every foreigner with ease due to his training in Korea but things didn't always go that way and many people looked for every opportunity to hate on Idra. I think it's truly amazing how Idra was able to ignore that, not worry about the all the vicious comments and, instead, focus on his goals and keep pursuing them, as if the haters didn't bother him at all. To me, however, the greatest feature about Idra was his personality. As far as I'm concerned, Idra was probably the most interesting personality of e-sports. We all know what Idra's typical behavior was - but I think the various expressions of bad manner, or unpredictible conduct like leaving the games early, really suited Idra and added that unique flavor to his attitude which shaped his persona into an irresistibly interesting character. Idra was simply one of those guys who continously generate stories around themselves and in my mind, stories are a critical part of what fuels e-sports. I think his attitude was a huge contribution to the community and individual's experience of starcraft. I genuinely hope that the conditions around e-sports will enable Idra to return to e-sports one day. I hope you will be happy with the decision you have made, Idra. Best of luck, you will be missed ! Probably the most intelligent comment i've seen on this thread so far! | ||
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BrieFanFiction
United States167 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I initially got into SC:BW in Iraq around February 2010. I had previously been a Warcraft 2 player and never got into BW. Anyway, my roommate had a copy of BW and let me install it, and soon enough I was addicted. I played that game so much that it became my escape from the shitty reality over there. I still remember pausing games and running out of my CHU to the bunkers because we were getting rocketed. Once I was assigned to the MEOC at FOB Echo to a joint operation between the 8th Iraqi Army and US. I played so much BW while guarding that satellite equipment (basically sitting right next to it making sure it didn't disappear) that the Iraqi General came up to me and (through his terp) told me it was his son's 5th birthday, and since I played "that game" so much it must be awesome and he would like me to make a copy for his son. I politely explained that BW wasn't suitable for a 5 year old, but my Sgt had an NES emulator with all the games and gave the kid that. At least he could have some kind of "childhood" as we say... Anyway, I was stoked that SC2 happened to be coming out in (August?) of 2010, and when it launched I bought it and played the shit out of it until I returned on 1 Oct, 2010. All my good friends were stop-lossed in Iraq, meaning their initial active duty contracts were extended to force them to go to Iraq for another year. One month after I got back nearly my entire crew got out of the Army or were sent to other units, scattered to the four winds (the Army tried to get them out ASAP as they had already done their time +). I was on my own in the old barracks with tons of new guys, many of whom had never deployed before (I had deployed twice at that point) and they annoyed the shit out of me. Our barracks had no heating for some reason, and it was so cold that I bought a giant down comforter to keep myself warm. In fact, the thermostat in the room where we're supposed to be able to adjust the temperature had a giant spiderweb crack in it emanating out from a small point, where somebody had probably raged out and stabbed it. My new leadership had no idea how to handle our strange assignment (personal security detail for the Brigade Commander of ~4,000 soldiers) and put tons of pressure on me to show them what to do and make sure everything was perfect. My life was fucking terrible. Literally the night I got back to the states (1 Oct 2010) my friends picked me up and we went to buy some liquor. Jim Beam had some bullshit "Welcome Home" label on their shit so I bought it to support them supporting us and found that I liked it, probably too much. By the time I had been back for two months I would buy a handle on Monday which would be gone by Thursday. Friday, Saturday, and two out of three Sundays each got their own 1/5th a night followed by Hamburger Helper made on my hot plate (awww yeahhhh!) and a quart of water then bed. I would normally start drinking at around 6pm and finish at 2am, then wake up at 6am to do physical training. It makes me sad to say this but during those shitty days SC2 was my only friend. I still remember the old MLG red and blue streams and all your SOTG shows, as well as ITG, Destiny starting up, and Idra in his prime. When MLGs were on I would wake up and buy a 30 rack of Icehouse and sync my maximum drunkenness to Idra's games, cheering for him like a drunk Spaniard at a soccer match. When he would get knocked out of a tournament I would be devastated. I still remember when MC came out and gave Idra the thumbs down then 4-0'd him. It may be irrational (as I'm no longer an Idra fan) but I've hated MC ever since. -- This was after you lost your passion I was following the scene really hard by about March 2011 and watched Destiny/Idra/everything constantly. SOTG and ITG (which I think had just started) were the highlights of my week! I would make sure to have four beers in me before the show started and I would get progressively more wasted as it went along, cheering when you all made good points and feeling glad I wasn't the only one who was upset over this or that. On my first deployment I arrested an Iraqi who had been a Colonel under Saddam and was still loyal to him. This Colonel had been the head of a major IED cell in Tikrit (Saddam's hometown). After the mission everyone said good job blah blah (he was a high value target) and life went on as normal. One week later the word came back that the Iraqi's had hung him. Even though it wasn't traumatic, the weight hit me like a ton of bricks. One time I had a dream that I was standing in front of a giant 2D map of the earth that took up a whole wall. In the top center the year "1988" appeared (the year I was born) and in New York (where I grew up) there was a bright yellow dot that started to move around and left a yellow trail behind it wherever it went. At the same time there was a blue dot in Iraq doing the same thing. The years rotated further ahead as the lines squiggled. Squiggle squiggle the lines went around, me squiggling in NY for 18 years then ZOOM down to Georgia then ZOOM over to Washington State then ZOOM over to Iraq where the blue dot has been squiggling in the same little area for years. Then it zoomed in and my yellow dot and the blue dot were separated only by gridsquares (representing 1 click, 1000 meters, .6 miles) and the yellow dot went over to the blue dot, the two dots squiggled, and then the blue dot went a few grid squares away and slowly faded from baby-blue, the same color as it's trail, to a dark, burnt out navy blue. The dot stopped moving. When I woke up, in my mind I naturally completed the dream with the yellow dot flying back to the states and resuming it's squiggling. My life is in order now (sober, hitting the gym, lots of new friends and in college with a 3.8 and plenty of money) and when I think back on those shitty times (mainly January 2011 - August 2011) when you guys were my only "friends", I realize how much I owe you. The entertainment that you guys provided really became my life. I would walk around for two weeks before an MLG or Dreamhack or whatever, so excited! I would draw out brackets and try to predict who would win. SC2 was just the only light in my life at that point. When you explained how you would wake up and feel the stress of having to organize the show, and think "fuckkk there's so much to do" and Day9 leaned toward you and agreed, it really hit me that you guys were carrying a lot of weight on your shoulders. I can picture you rolling over, getting out of bed, and proceeding to arrange the show with it's content and guests and hardware setup, and I feel deeply grateful that you saw it through and went on with the production. Remember that 11,000 people watched tonight's show. I promise you that at least one of them was sitting there in their room with their parents fighting in the kitchen, trying to block it out; or trying to forget about how their dog or cat has cancer and their parents don't have the $1600 to save it; about the conversation they just had with their parents where they were told "We just don't have the money to get you anything for your birthday" or just had with their girlfriend and "It's just not working out." Sometimes people need a couple hours away from it all, and that's what all of you give us day in and day out. What I've learned throughout this whole thing is that entertainment is one of the most noble enterprises someone can go into. If you think about it, beer, Pepsi, football, music, movies, gaming, all of it falls under entertainment, and it all serves one primary purpose: To take our minds off our worries. For providing me with endless opportunities to do just that, I thank you and everyone else. Thanks, and may your dots squiggle for the next eighty years! | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 06 2014 10:00 RedBack wrote: Oh Geez go away, it was people like Idra who kept things becoming a sterile snooze fest like they are now. Will miss you Gracken Couldn't agree more... sc2 really isn't entertaining enough to watch on a skill basis alone and, its personalities and story lines that keep people interested and coming back for more! Sadly, Idra is a huge loss when considering the personality he brought to the starcraft scene and he will be hugely missed :/ | ||
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Akimbo
Canada104 Posts
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bretfart
114 Posts
On February 06 2014 07:11 fishjie wrote: Never liked the guy, he had a horrible attitude and blamed all his losses on everyone but himself. He constantly criticized others for being awful, yet was never any good at the game either, memorable only for his rage quits when he was either even or ahead. He then got fired from eg because he kept telling people he wanted them to die of cancer. All his fanboys were enablers and when he made the comment about being paid to treat them badly (the comment that cost him his job) it was funny cause it was true. It is funny that someone who hated the game so much stuck around so long. It's all a moot point now since sc2 is on it's last dying breath, but if esports as a whole is to make it, toxic players such as this need to retire earlier. 100% correct. 100%!!! | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
Idra speaking his thoughts was so refreshing, because we all know all players have hate for certain players or strategies. It's just that everyone else censored themselves. We hear it all the time how players and casters are night and day between playing and in private. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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frostalgia
United States178 Posts
Starcraft was never about making money in the Brood War days, it was about making a name for yourself. Not by being a drama queen or a 'personality', but by being an innovative player who found new ways to win at a decade-old game. If you expect that this bubble from early WoL days was going to last, when SC2 was the only eSport, you should've known better. I am okay with the way things have turned out. Sure, the NA scene is still nonexistent, but the game itself is still just starting to find it's place. SC2 isn't going anywhere, and even if the Korean and EU scene are the only ones who stick with it I'll still watch every tournament. Brood War took many years before it grew to be one of the most successful eSports around, and SC2 will have to as well. | ||
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daxile
Canada829 Posts
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Scorpion77
98 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMxabc0ey7E | ||
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Rosbife
Portugal15 Posts
I wonder if Greg knows the impact his SC(2) run has had on the community. Such a legend, for better or worse. | ||
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withlove
Austria1 Post
I think it is the best decision he made so far. I dont understand how someone can play a game "he does not like". That's just stupid and tells a lot about a person's mindset and character. Quite good as a player but quite bad in his behaviour as we all know. He could have been Top 10 but his mindset limited him to "another GM player that plays Zerg". I think he will change in "school" and he should. If he does not change he will haunt society with his bad attitude afterwards like he did as a player, regardless what he will do then. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 08 2014 11:14 writer22816 wrote: Idra = Sheldon The latter is supposed to be a genius. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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MrProb
Thailand794 Posts
On February 06 2014 10:08 BrieFanFiction wrote: Well, I've posted this a couple times by now but I mean it when I say it. The post applies to you a great deal Greg. I actually wrote this some time ago. I still remember walking down from the third floor of my barracks and over to the PX to buy some Icehouse 5.5% and .59 cent "burritos" a couple hours before you played and rooting for you while I was drunker than shit. I miss those old Red and Blue MLG days... kind of. This was originally aimed at JP, thus the pro-"showbiz" ring to it. But Greg deserves "all the props" as well (seeing as he provided 2 years of great entertainment). + Show Spoiler + I initially got into SC:BW in Iraq around February 2010. I had previously been a Warcraft 2 player and never got into BW. Anyway, my roommate had a copy of BW and let me install it, and soon enough I was addicted. I played that game so much that it became my escape from the shitty reality over there. I still remember pausing games and running out of my CHU to the bunkers because we were getting rocketed. Once I was assigned to the MEOC at FOB Echo to a joint operation between the 8th Iraqi Army and US. I played so much BW while guarding that satellite equipment (basically sitting right next to it making sure it didn't disappear) that the Iraqi General came up to me and (through his terp) told me it was his son's 5th birthday, and since I played "that game" so much it must be awesome and he would like me to make a copy for his son. I politely explained that BW wasn't suitable for a 5 year old, but my Sgt had an NES emulator with all the games and gave the kid that. At least he could have some kind of "childhood" as we say... Anyway, I was stoked that SC2 happened to be coming out in (August?) of 2010, and when it launched I bought it and played the shit out of it until I returned on 1 Oct, 2010. All my good friends were stop-lossed in Iraq, meaning their initial active duty contracts were extended to force them to go to Iraq for another year. One month after I got back nearly my entire crew got out of the Army or were sent to other units, scattered to the four winds (the Army tried to get them out ASAP as they had already done their time +). I was on my own in the old barracks with tons of new guys, many of whom had never deployed before (I had deployed twice at that point) and they annoyed the shit out of me. Our barracks had no heating for some reason, and it was so cold that I bought a giant down comforter to keep myself warm. In fact, the thermostat in the room where we're supposed to be able to adjust the temperature had a giant spiderweb crack in it emanating out from a small point, where somebody had probably raged out and stabbed it. My new leadership had no idea how to handle our strange assignment (personal security detail for the Brigade Commander of ~4,000 soldiers) and put tons of pressure on me to show them what to do and make sure everything was perfect. My life was fucking terrible. Literally the night I got back to the states (1 Oct 2010) my friends picked me up and we went to buy some liquor. Jim Beam had some bullshit "Welcome Home" label on their shit so I bought it to support them supporting us and found that I liked it, probably too much. By the time I had been back for two months I would buy a handle on Monday which would be gone by Thursday. Friday, Saturday, and two out of three Sundays each got their own 1/5th a night followed by Hamburger Helper made on my hot plate (awww yeahhhh!) and a quart of water then bed. I would normally start drinking at around 6pm and finish at 2am, then wake up at 6am to do physical training. It makes me sad to say this but during those shitty days SC2 was my only friend. I still remember the old MLG red and blue streams and all your SOTG shows, as well as ITG, Destiny starting up, and Idra in his prime. When MLGs were on I would wake up and buy a 30 rack of Icehouse and sync my maximum drunkenness to Idra's games, cheering for him like a drunk Spaniard at a soccer match. When he would get knocked out of a tournament I would be devastated. I still remember when MC came out and gave Idra the thumbs down then 4-0'd him. It may be irrational (as I'm no longer an Idra fan) but I've hated MC ever since. -- This was after you lost your passion I was following the scene really hard by about March 2011 and watched Destiny/Idra/everything constantly. SOTG and ITG (which I think had just started) were the highlights of my week! I would make sure to have four beers in me before the show started and I would get progressively more wasted as it went along, cheering when you all made good points and feeling glad I wasn't the only one who was upset over this or that. On my first deployment I arrested an Iraqi who had been a Colonel under Saddam and was still loyal to him. This Colonel had been the head of a major IED cell in Tikrit (Saddam's hometown). After the mission everyone said good job blah blah (he was a high value target) and life went on as normal. One week later the word came back that the Iraqi's had hung him. Even though it wasn't traumatic, the weight hit me like a ton of bricks. One time I had a dream that I was standing in front of a giant 2D map of the earth that took up a whole wall. In the top center the year "1988" appeared (the year I was born) and in New York (where I grew up) there was a bright yellow dot that started to move around and left a yellow trail behind it wherever it went. At the same time there was a blue dot in Iraq doing the same thing. The years rotated further ahead as the lines squiggled. Squiggle squiggle the lines went around, me squiggling in NY for 18 years then ZOOM down to Georgia then ZOOM over to Washington State then ZOOM over to Iraq where the blue dot has been squiggling in the same little area for years. Then it zoomed in and my yellow dot and the blue dot were separated only by gridsquares (representing 1 click, 1000 meters, .6 miles) and the yellow dot went over to the blue dot, the two dots squiggled, and then the blue dot went a few grid squares away and slowly faded from baby-blue, the same color as it's trail, to a dark, burnt out navy blue. The dot stopped moving. When I woke up, in my mind I naturally completed the dream with the yellow dot flying back to the states and resuming it's squiggling. My life is in order now (sober, hitting the gym, lots of new friends and in college with a 3.8 and plenty of money) and when I think back on those shitty times (mainly January 2011 - August 2011) when you guys were my only "friends", I realize how much I owe you. The entertainment that you guys provided really became my life. I would walk around for two weeks before an MLG or Dreamhack or whatever, so excited! I would draw out brackets and try to predict who would win. SC2 was just the only light in my life at that point. When you explained how you would wake up and feel the stress of having to organize the show, and think "fuckkk there's so much to do" and Day9 leaned toward you and agreed, it really hit me that you guys were carrying a lot of weight on your shoulders. I can picture you rolling over, getting out of bed, and proceeding to arrange the show with it's content and guests and hardware setup, and I feel deeply grateful that you saw it through and went on with the production. Remember that 11,000 people watched tonight's show. I promise you that at least one of them was sitting there in their room with their parents fighting in the kitchen, trying to block it out; or trying to forget about how their dog or cat has cancer and their parents don't have the $1600 to save it; about the conversation they just had with their parents where they were told "We just don't have the money to get you anything for your birthday" or just had with their girlfriend and "It's just not working out." Sometimes people need a couple hours away from it all, and that's what all of you give us day in and day out. What I've learned throughout this whole thing is that entertainment is one of the most noble enterprises someone can go into. If you think about it, beer, Pepsi, football, music, movies, gaming, all of it falls under entertainment, and it all serves one primary purpose: To take our minds off our worries. For providing me with endless opportunities to do just that, I thank you and everyone else. Thanks, and may your dots squiggle for the next eighty years! Is there a +1 button ? This is really touching and related to a lot of people with personal problems to deal with out there including me, sometimes all you need is an escape from real world for a short period of time to get through it. | ||
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
I'm sad you aren't going to be streaming dota 2 though. Even if you're not very good at the game, it was interesting watching you get progressively better at, quite frankly, and alarming rate. I've played dota for 7 years and you're already better than I was 3 years ago. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On February 06 2014 07:11 fishjie wrote: Never liked the guy, he had a horrible attitude and blamed all his losses on everyone but himself. He constantly criticized others for being awful, yet was never any good at the game either, memorable only for his rage quits when he was either even or ahead. He then got fired from eg because he kept telling people he wanted them to die of cancer. All his fanboys were enablers and when he made the comment about being paid to treat them badly (the comment that cost him his job) it was funny cause it was true. It is funny that someone who hated the game so much stuck around so long. It's all a moot point now since sc2 is on it's last dying breath, but if esports as a whole is to make it, toxic players such as this need to retire earlier. Too bad we didn't have more happy fun people like fishjie in the scene, who probably goes to funerals and pees on the body Let us enjoy our happy memories in peace | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On February 06 2014 10:08 BrieFanFiction wrote: Well, I've posted this a couple times by now but I mean it when I say it. The post applies to you a great deal Greg. I actually wrote this some time ago. I still remember walking down from the third floor of my barracks and over to the PX to buy some Icehouse 5.5% and .59 cent "burritos" a couple hours before you played and rooting for you while I was drunker than shit. I miss those old Red and Blue MLG days... kind of. This was originally aimed at JP, thus the pro-"showbiz" ring to it. But Greg deserves "all the props" as well (seeing as he provided 2 years of great entertainment). + Show Spoiler + I initially got into SC:BW in Iraq around February 2010. I had previously been a Warcraft 2 player and never got into BW. Anyway, my roommate had a copy of BW and let me install it, and soon enough I was addicted. I played that game so much that it became my escape from the shitty reality over there. I still remember pausing games and running out of my CHU to the bunkers because we were getting rocketed. Once I was assigned to the MEOC at FOB Echo to a joint operation between the 8th Iraqi Army and US. I played so much BW while guarding that satellite equipment (basically sitting right next to it making sure it didn't disappear) that the Iraqi General came up to me and (through his terp) told me it was his son's 5th birthday, and since I played "that game" so much it must be awesome and he would like me to make a copy for his son. I politely explained that BW wasn't suitable for a 5 year old, but my Sgt had an NES emulator with all the games and gave the kid that. At least he could have some kind of "childhood" as we say... Anyway, I was stoked that SC2 happened to be coming out in (August?) of 2010, and when it launched I bought it and played the shit out of it until I returned on 1 Oct, 2010. All my good friends were stop-lossed in Iraq, meaning their initial active duty contracts were extended to force them to go to Iraq for another year. One month after I got back nearly my entire crew got out of the Army or were sent to other units, scattered to the four winds (the Army tried to get them out ASAP as they had already done their time +). I was on my own in the old barracks with tons of new guys, many of whom had never deployed before (I had deployed twice at that point) and they annoyed the shit out of me. Our barracks had no heating for some reason, and it was so cold that I bought a giant down comforter to keep myself warm. In fact, the thermostat in the room where we're supposed to be able to adjust the temperature had a giant spiderweb crack in it emanating out from a small point, where somebody had probably raged out and stabbed it. My new leadership had no idea how to handle our strange assignment (personal security detail for the Brigade Commander of ~4,000 soldiers) and put tons of pressure on me to show them what to do and make sure everything was perfect. My life was fucking terrible. Literally the night I got back to the states (1 Oct 2010) my friends picked me up and we went to buy some liquor. Jim Beam had some bullshit "Welcome Home" label on their shit so I bought it to support them supporting us and found that I liked it, probably too much. By the time I had been back for two months I would buy a handle on Monday which would be gone by Thursday. Friday, Saturday, and two out of three Sundays each got their own 1/5th a night followed by Hamburger Helper made on my hot plate (awww yeahhhh!) and a quart of water then bed. I would normally start drinking at around 6pm and finish at 2am, then wake up at 6am to do physical training. It makes me sad to say this but during those shitty days SC2 was my only friend. I still remember the old MLG red and blue streams and all your SOTG shows, as well as ITG, Destiny starting up, and Idra in his prime. When MLGs were on I would wake up and buy a 30 rack of Icehouse and sync my maximum drunkenness to Idra's games, cheering for him like a drunk Spaniard at a soccer match. When he would get knocked out of a tournament I would be devastated. I still remember when MC came out and gave Idra the thumbs down then 4-0'd him. It may be irrational (as I'm no longer an Idra fan) but I've hated MC ever since. -- This was after you lost your passion I was following the scene really hard by about March 2011 and watched Destiny/Idra/everything constantly. SOTG and ITG (which I think had just started) were the highlights of my week! I would make sure to have four beers in me before the show started and I would get progressively more wasted as it went along, cheering when you all made good points and feeling glad I wasn't the only one who was upset over this or that. On my first deployment I arrested an Iraqi who had been a Colonel under Saddam and was still loyal to him. This Colonel had been the head of a major IED cell in Tikrit (Saddam's hometown). After the mission everyone said good job blah blah (he was a high value target) and life went on as normal. One week later the word came back that the Iraqi's had hung him. Even though it wasn't traumatic, the weight hit me like a ton of bricks. One time I had a dream that I was standing in front of a giant 2D map of the earth that took up a whole wall. In the top center the year "1988" appeared (the year I was born) and in New York (where I grew up) there was a bright yellow dot that started to move around and left a yellow trail behind it wherever it went. At the same time there was a blue dot in Iraq doing the same thing. The years rotated further ahead as the lines squiggled. Squiggle squiggle the lines went around, me squiggling in NY for 18 years then ZOOM down to Georgia then ZOOM over to Washington State then ZOOM over to Iraq where the blue dot has been squiggling in the same little area for years. Then it zoomed in and my yellow dot and the blue dot were separated only by gridsquares (representing 1 click, 1000 meters, .6 miles) and the yellow dot went over to the blue dot, the two dots squiggled, and then the blue dot went a few grid squares away and slowly faded from baby-blue, the same color as it's trail, to a dark, burnt out navy blue. The dot stopped moving. When I woke up, in my mind I naturally completed the dream with the yellow dot flying back to the states and resuming it's squiggling. My life is in order now (sober, hitting the gym, lots of new friends and in college with a 3.8 and plenty of money) and when I think back on those shitty times (mainly January 2011 - August 2011) when you guys were my only "friends", I realize how much I owe you. The entertainment that you guys provided really became my life. I would walk around for two weeks before an MLG or Dreamhack or whatever, so excited! I would draw out brackets and try to predict who would win. SC2 was just the only light in my life at that point. When you explained how you would wake up and feel the stress of having to organize the show, and think "fuckkk there's so much to do" and Day9 leaned toward you and agreed, it really hit me that you guys were carrying a lot of weight on your shoulders. I can picture you rolling over, getting out of bed, and proceeding to arrange the show with it's content and guests and hardware setup, and I feel deeply grateful that you saw it through and went on with the production. Remember that 11,000 people watched tonight's show. I promise you that at least one of them was sitting there in their room with their parents fighting in the kitchen, trying to block it out; or trying to forget about how their dog or cat has cancer and their parents don't have the $1600 to save it; about the conversation they just had with their parents where they were told "We just don't have the money to get you anything for your birthday" or just had with their girlfriend and "It's just not working out." Sometimes people need a couple hours away from it all, and that's what all of you give us day in and day out. What I've learned throughout this whole thing is that entertainment is one of the most noble enterprises someone can go into. If you think about it, beer, Pepsi, football, music, movies, gaming, all of it falls under entertainment, and it all serves one primary purpose: To take our minds off our worries. For providing me with endless opportunities to do just that, I thank you and everyone else. Thanks, and may your dots squiggle for the next eighty years! You know this is the first time I actually wish Bw and sc2 never existed , anything that made your life easier over there is something I hope it never existed , apply that to all US troops in Iraq. yeah I said it. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On February 10 2014 16:22 Tchado wrote: You know this is the first time I actually wish Bw and sc2 never existed , anything that made your life easier over there is something I hope it never existed , apply that to all US troops in Iraq. yeah I said it. Lol someone's mad. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
Shit happens EDIT : GOM just posted this , great video | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
video's pretty cool | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
When esports came up, IdrA was one of the first foreigners to go and try their hand at the foreign pro scene. Yes others might have done it, but IdrA was very successful in the BW era. He set the stage for other foreigners to compete with the Koreans. This was in BW. He's the one who really got up and inspired people to say, hey, you can do it too. This was a pioneer for esports. And even if you leave, you'll leave your legacy. To every single person who follows in your footsteps. You set the stage for them. Good luck IdrA. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 10 2014 16:42 Tchado wrote: Shit happens EDIT : GOM just posted this , great video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmndYhq6kDw It's so funny (and so ironic) that every GOM's IdrA tributes always are super CHEESY love it! | ||
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kiLen
Finland97 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 10 2014 17:36 SmoKim wrote: It's so funny (and so ironic) that every GOM's IdrA tributes always are super CHEESY love it!Apparently GOM killed him again xD. | ||
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Romulox
United States125 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 10 2014 18:26 WolfintheSheep wrote: Apparently GOM killed him again xD. Haha, so accurate. The first tribute actually made me think he literally died. | ||
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DrizzyRNS
United States30 Posts
ALL HAIL THE GRACKEN! | ||
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KookyMonster
United States311 Posts
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tokinho
United States785 Posts
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ratty
New Zealand275 Posts
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
I've learnt to never give up, never surrender. And not to blame circumstances or the race, but take responsibility like a man without making petty excuses. On a serious note: If you had gamesense, or any inkling of it, you would have known these Void Rays were hallucinated. I guess you will be struggling in a non-perfect, imbalanced world with your attitude, but maybe you will learn. | ||
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Heat_023
Canada160 Posts
On February 15 2014 18:05 kusto wrote: Idra was always an inspiration to me: I've learnt to never give up, never surrender. And not to blame circumstances or the race, but take responsibility like a man without making petty excuses. On a serious note: If you had gamesense, or any inkling of it, you would have known these Void Rays were hallucinated. I guess you will be struggling in a non-perfect, imbalanced world with your attitude, but maybe you will learn. What the hell ? | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On February 15 2014 18:05 kusto wrote: Idra was always an inspiration to me: I've learnt to never give up, never surrender. And not to blame circumstances or the race, but take responsibility like a man without making petty excuses. On a serious note: If you had gamesense, or any inkling of it, you would have known these Void Rays were hallucinated. I guess you will be struggling in a non-perfect, imbalanced world with your attitude, but maybe you will learn. Thanks for lecturing pro players on game sense friend. You know, it's a wonder that with people like you pro players don't absolutely love social media. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Anyway, gl in poker. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On February 16 2014 00:23 LemOn wrote: i thought he quit ages ago? :O Anyway, gl in poker. he quit professionally 9ish months ago, yes, but he was still streaming regularly until recently | ||
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nrv
United States113 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
I agree with the ironic part of that post. However, I don't agree with game sense about void rays. Besides, it's easy not to pay enough attention or just feel bad that day. There are so many factors that may affect your game. It's one game after all. | ||
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
Hope you can assimilate back into "normal" life (where most of us live, including me :D) with no problems. | ||
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KerriganSon
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:14 IdrA wrote: But I've never liked the game and I don't see that changing anytime soon so I see no reason to scrape by with no future just for the sake of staying with it. good old idra | ||
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jermo537
United States6 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36996 Posts
On April 27 2014 15:40 jermo537 wrote: Good riddance! hell has subsided and the heavens have opened up and braced us with its beautiful light You seriously felt the need to bump a thread that's more than 2 months old just to say this?... | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On April 27 2014 15:46 Seeker wrote: You seriously felt the need to bump a thread that's more than 2 months old just to say this?... He is one of those guys who are always late in parties. | ||
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
On April 27 2014 15:46 Seeker wrote: You seriously felt the need to bump a thread that's more than 2 months old just to say this?... Does the date really make that big of a difference or are you just trying to help lead a flame brigade against him? | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On April 27 2014 15:53 GranDGranT wrote: Does the date really make that big of a difference or are you just trying to help lead a flame brigade against him? Yes, it does. If you're bumping a thread that's two months old, you should have something interesting/important to say. He's just being a dick. | ||
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Onekobold
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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