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BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
February 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#221
Yeah its not worth it. There is no money to be made is esports and Blizzard actually ruined it with the global tournament they started doing.

Before there was Dreamhack, MLG, ESL, NASL, IGN, Asus ROG, Red Bull, etc... but Blizzard had to step in and ruin everything and only have like 1 tournament that is very boring, very predictable, unknown casters, no audiences, if it was bad it they were doing it.

So Blizzard ruined esports, at least SC2 esports on their own. They should not have stepped in and tried to consolidate tournaments as it pretty much destroyed the already declining scene.

Right now no one watches SC2 anymore, because its not interesting, there aren't enough different tournaments, the best casters are not hired and the duo of Tastosis has gotten boring frankly, after several years of non stop casting, they are boring to me.

That is not to mention that Blizzard made SC2 worse than BW, like its not as fun as BW was. The balance is weird, there is not enough variety, not enough skill based, not enough big moves, big spells, like storm was in BW, was EMP was in brood War, like Reaver hits were, plague hits, etc...

In SC2 you wait for 10 minutes for the 2 players to get their deathball and then A-move and the winner is the one with the better hard counters. That is SC2 in a nutshell.

User was warned for this post
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#222
You're the reason I got into sc2 and esports in the first place. Thanks for the memories! Good luck in school!
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#223
I will forever remain puzzled by why so many people gave a shit about Idra
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#224
Good luck with your future. Hope to see you around e-sports in some fashion.
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#225
Good luck dude. Was a pleasure to meet you, see you play, and occasionally even play some other games with you.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#226
Funny, he says he never liked the game, yet stuck with it for 4 yrs? Must have been a pretty miserable experience. Hope he moves on to something he enjoys and finds more fulfilling. Had some good games, especially that one against MVP on Shakuras Plateau (back when MVP was no.1).
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#227
Good luck with whatever you'll do in the future. You'll be missed.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Sirocco
Profile Joined August 2010
United States23 Posts
February 03 2014 20:45 GMT
#228
Goodbye.

I've always been a fan of yours, and I wish you luck in future endeavours.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 03 2014 20:45 GMT
#229
I think going back to school to schmuck it up with everyone else is a bad idea. I think you have enough name recognition and pull in gaming to start working on your career now. You have a starting point, entrepreneurial speaking, that most people dream about. You have unlimited connections to esports, gaming companies etc. that I'd be shocked if you couldn't find gainful employment in this industry. You should definitely quit the streaming personality gig though if it doesn't make you happy. School might be the path you need but I doubt you'll get what you want out of it in the end. You have all the tools you need to start your actual career now I would bet.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
February 03 2014 20:46 GMT
#230
Never was a big fan of IdrA but wow, this is a big loss for the entire community. Sad to see you go
Head of New Business at Team Kinguin :: https://www.teamkinguin.com
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 20:58:31
February 03 2014 20:46 GMT
#231
On February 04 2014 05:43 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 05:37 Kerence wrote:
A couple of thousand dollars for a weekends work once a month sounds like pretty good pay to me, not that you can live by that alone, buy still

You acknowledge it's not enough to love off of, and them justify that statement with "but still"? If it's not enough it's not enough.. Also longterm, going to school is infinitely a better choice.


Really now? How many people can actually live of only casting SC2? It's a handful of people. All I'm saying is that it is in fact pretty good money, but you'd have to get another income as well.

On February 04 2014 05:51 Erosive wrote:
Even if you make a thousand or two on a weekend, it comes down to the general lifestyle of casting/streaming. Siting daily streaming 6-8 hours of a video game daily is not a healthy lifestyle, even though most progamers do it. You become weak, stressed, bored, and a sense of no accomplishments. I'm glad Greg decided to head back to school, it will be better for him. Hope he surrounds himself with active friendly people who will hopefully give him a better judgement of himself.

Sometimes it's hard to leave something you devoted so much time into, but in Gregs case, it's for the better good. I enjoyed your casting and gameplay commentary Greg, wish you the best bud!


But now you're mixing players and casters. I don't see any of the casters streaming 6-8 hours a day. The only caster I even see streaming Starcraft "regularly" is Artosis, and even he seems to be doing Hearthstone most of the time right now.
With Idra's knowledge, he could probably coast on that for quite some time with minimum investment into the game.

I also never said going back to school was a bad idea, in fact, I think it's a good idea.
I am here in the shadows.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 03 2014 20:46 GMT
#232
that's too bad, and i'd love to be able to keep watching you, Idra, but i completely understand your decision and i believe - as someone that only 'knows' you from following you as a progamer - it is the correct one. i wish you the best of luck, success and happiness in your future endeavours.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
February 03 2014 20:46 GMT
#233
On February 04 2014 05:44 Green_25 wrote:
I will forever remain puzzled by why so many people gave a shit about Idra

It's more puzzling to me why someone would say something like this. He was a good player, entertaining personality, and if you got meet him a pretty nice guy. If you really don't care why are you even commenting on his post? If you want to be edgy or something there is always facebook.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3413 Posts
February 03 2014 20:47 GMT
#234
Good luck in your studies man! You did well for the foreign scene back in BW and then did great in SC2.
Horang2 fan
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
February 03 2014 20:47 GMT
#235
Good bye :'(
I love you
Have a nice day ;)
GZSwanson
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada25 Posts
February 03 2014 20:48 GMT
#236
Woah - idra is actually gone - ggwp glgl
Generally always 90% of the time DTs are a good idea
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 20:49:42
February 03 2014 20:48 GMT
#237
Damn. No matter what you think about Idra, he's almost become a part of Starcraft over the years. He's always been here, always been in the spotlight in one way or another.

It's like a big brother who you grew up with. He's always been there, always been a part of things. You've played with him, fought with him, even hated him sometimes. But he's always been there.
Then one day he moves away, goes to college.
Leaves you behind.
Only then do you realize just how much his presence filled your house. Only when you see the gaping hole he left in your life do you realize how prominent he was, how he was such an important part of your life.

Good or ill, Idra's always been a part of Starcraft.

Good luck with college, Idra.
GLHF
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
February 03 2014 20:50 GMT
#238
Good luck and thanks for everything!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
February 03 2014 20:50 GMT
#239
I didn't even know he was still around? I thought he disappeared after EG fired him?
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
February 03 2014 20:51 GMT
#240
On February 04 2014 05:37 Kerence wrote:
A couple of thousand dollars for a weekends work once a month sounds like pretty good pay to me, not that you can live by that alone, but still. I guess you'd have to spend free time actually keeping up with the game, but even then it seems like a good deal (maybe less so when you don't like the game). Oh well.

While I wasn't a huge fan, I still enjoyed seeing you play back when I started watching WoL. Good times.
Good bye and good luck!


Even if you make a thousand or two on a weekend, it comes down to the general lifestyle of casting/streaming. Siting daily streaming 6-8 hours of a video game daily is not a healthy lifestyle, even though most progamers do it. You become weak, stressed, bored, and a sense of no accomplishments. I'm glad Greg decided to head back to school, it will be better for him. Hope he surrounds himself with active friendly people who will hopefully give him a better judgement of himself.

Sometimes it's hard to leave something you devoted so much time into, but in Gregs case, it's for the better good. I enjoyed your casting and gameplay commentary Greg, wish you the best bud!
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