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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
August 15 2014 14:52 GMT
#6261
On August 15 2014 23:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:39 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:36 Grumbels wrote:
On August 15 2014 22:41 SmileZerg wrote:
On August 15 2014 14:51 Pontius Pirate wrote:
On August 11 2014 17:25 Xiphias wrote:
Patch for 11th of Aug
Protoss
  • Colossus: Still not added to the game.


I feel like I'm missing a moderately funny inside joke here.

The joke is that the Colossus is a fucking joke of a unit and one of the most potent examples of SC2's design failures in comparison with Brood War.

But the joke itself can be interpreted as hubris which in literature will set you up for a tragic downfall, by the evil method of dramatic irony. We must have some sense of self preservation to guard ourselves against such things. :o

It was just Xiphias frustration out of the forums that led to this joke. Because one half in our forum is saying Starbow is too much BW and others are saying its too much sc2.

Both are right imo.
I think it isn't enough starbow

I don't know if you should want it to be more though. For instance, I resigned myself to the idea that starbow could 'merely' be a superior version of sc2 in case I feel like playing again. And as such, from my perspective increasing its derivation from brood war is missing the point since bw is already a good game, while starcraft 2 isn't.

Like the bible quote:
27 After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. “Follow me,” Jesus said to him, 28 and Levi got up, left everything and followed him.

29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”

31 Jesus answered them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

(Sorry, on a literature kick atm )
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 15 2014 15:07 GMT
#6262
On August 15 2014 23:52 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:39 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:36 Grumbels wrote:
On August 15 2014 22:41 SmileZerg wrote:
On August 15 2014 14:51 Pontius Pirate wrote:
On August 11 2014 17:25 Xiphias wrote:
Patch for 11th of Aug
Protoss
  • Colossus: Still not added to the game.


I feel like I'm missing a moderately funny inside joke here.

The joke is that the Colossus is a fucking joke of a unit and one of the most potent examples of SC2's design failures in comparison with Brood War.

But the joke itself can be interpreted as hubris which in literature will set you up for a tragic downfall, by the evil method of dramatic irony. We must have some sense of self preservation to guard ourselves against such things. :o

It was just Xiphias frustration out of the forums that led to this joke. Because one half in our forum is saying Starbow is too much BW and others are saying its too much sc2.

Both are right imo.
I think it isn't enough starbow

I don't know if you should want it to be more though. For instance, I resigned myself to the idea that starbow could 'merely' be a superior version of sc2 in case I feel like playing again. And as such, from my perspective increasing its derivation from brood war is missing the point since bw is already a good game, while starcraft 2 isn't.

Like the bible quote:
Show nested quote +
27 After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. “Follow me,” Jesus said to him, 28 and Levi got up, left everything and followed him.

29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”

31 Jesus answered them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

(Sorry, on a literature kick atm )


Well yeah maybe. Personally i would have loved it to be a bit more unique though. But this wasn't the intention in the first place i guess.

Sry i am not religious, but yeah being more like BW is probably overall the better way to go ( at least from a design point)
The thing is, there are also people who would say sc2 is the healthy part
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 15:29:38
August 15 2014 15:29 GMT
#6263
On August 15 2014 23:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:39 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:36 Grumbels wrote:
On August 15 2014 22:41 SmileZerg wrote:
On August 15 2014 14:51 Pontius Pirate wrote:
On August 11 2014 17:25 Xiphias wrote:
Patch for 11th of Aug
Protoss
  • Colossus: Still not added to the game.


I feel like I'm missing a moderately funny inside joke here.

The joke is that the Colossus is a fucking joke of a unit and one of the most potent examples of SC2's design failures in comparison with Brood War.

But the joke itself can be interpreted as hubris which in literature will set you up for a tragic downfall, by the evil method of dramatic irony. We must have some sense of self preservation to guard ourselves against such things. :o

It was just Xiphias frustration out of the forums that led to this joke. Because one half in our forum is saying Starbow is too much BW and others are saying its too much sc2.

Both are right imo.
I think it isn't enough starbow


We need more cowbell




any update on the KOTH?
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
August 15 2014 15:38 GMT
#6264
It was just a cheap joke. No idea it would start this great discussion.

Anyhow, the KotH might go strait to Artosis Youtube from VOD's

Oh, and Starbow ladder cup is live!

http://www.twitch.tv/sc2_starbow
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 16:11:08
August 15 2014 16:01 GMT
#6265
It begins~~

woot <3 Starbow!

(in-game music please
T P Z sagi
Sachar Nabai
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden56 Posts
August 16 2014 13:22 GMT
#6266
Which possible positive outcome of Starbow do you guys think is the most likely to happen?

1. Starbow becomes super popular; you can find a good match in a couple of minutes and the game is even more awesome. Lots of tournaments to watch.

2. Starbow may not be a massive success in itself, not that many play it, but its positive influence on future Starcraft releases and other RTS games is obvious. BW mechanics makes a comeback through Starbow etc..

3. I don't know, you tell me...
"He runs and runs and runs. And when he's exhausted himself, he returns to me, puts his head in my lap and asks me to help him find a way to die."
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 15:05:18
August 16 2014 14:45 GMT
#6267
I just finished watching the VoD of yesterdays group stage and I had a blast, wow those games are awesome!
Hope they get casted by Husky, Day9 and or Artosis!

As a thank you to the whole StarBow Community I'll show you a Screenshot of BorN eating a Banana. I took that screenshot back in Feburary. Keep on macroing!

[image loading]
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
August 16 2014 15:32 GMT
#6268
BorN banana! The hype is real!

Day 2 starts in 30 min: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2_starbow
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
August 17 2014 12:54 GMT
#6269
All in all I really liked BorN as a caster btw ;>

At first I was a bit worried, but BorN has some kind of magic or something ;X
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Sikian
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Spain177 Posts
August 17 2014 12:58 GMT
#6270
On August 17 2014 21:54 Daumen wrote:
All in all I really liked BorN as a caster btw ;>

At first I was a bit worried, but BorN has some kind of magic or something ;X


I really liked him too, has lots of energy
Helping Starbow :: a.k.a. SoaH
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
August 17 2014 23:47 GMT
#6271
On August 17 2014 21:58 Sikian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2014 21:54 Daumen wrote:
All in all I really liked BorN as a caster btw ;>

At first I was a bit worried, but BorN has some kind of magic or something ;X


I really liked him too, has lots of energy

I liked him too, he really has alot of passion. What I like most about his casting is ingame knowledge and that he sees everything from a terrans perspective ^^. I dont like his patriotism, but hey nobody is perfect ^^ He should just make a youtube channel.
aka Kalevi
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 18 2014 00:56 GMT
#6272
On August 18 2014 08:47 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2014 21:58 Sikian wrote:
On August 17 2014 21:54 Daumen wrote:
All in all I really liked BorN as a caster btw ;>

At first I was a bit worried, but BorN has some kind of magic or something ;X


I really liked him too, has lots of energy

I liked him too, he really has alot of passion. What I like most about his casting is ingame knowledge and that he sees everything from a terrans perspective ^^. I dont like his patriotism, but hey nobody is perfect ^^ He should just make a youtube channel.

I'm pretty sure he's joking.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
August 18 2014 04:28 GMT
#6273
On August 18 2014 09:56 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 08:47 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On August 17 2014 21:58 Sikian wrote:
On August 17 2014 21:54 Daumen wrote:
All in all I really liked BorN as a caster btw ;>

At first I was a bit worried, but BorN has some kind of magic or something ;X


I really liked him too, has lots of energy

I liked him too, he really has alot of passion. What I like most about his casting is ingame knowledge and that he sees everything from a terrans perspective ^^. I dont like his patriotism, but hey nobody is perfect ^^ He should just make a youtube channel.

I'm pretty sure he's joking.

i know, but i dont like it anyway ^^
aka Kalevi
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 09:10:26
August 18 2014 05:22 GMT
#6274
Was Born the caster other than Kalevi and Xiphias?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
August 18 2014 05:31 GMT
#6275
On August 18 2014 14:22 Grumbels wrote:
Was Born the caster other than Kalewi and Xiphias?

Born and Decemberscalm casted as well.
decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
August 18 2014 05:48 GMT
#6276
On August 18 2014 14:22 Grumbels wrote:
Was Born the caster other than Kalewi and Xiphias?

I casted a ton day 1. Day 2 it was those three.
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
August 19 2014 08:04 GMT
#6277
Why was it possible to implement Brood War sounds after all? At first the reason was that the Maps would get way too big afaik, how come you guys have done it? Also: Can you implement any BW sound now? Cuz there are some rly cool ones that I'd like to hear ;D
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
August 19 2014 15:37 GMT
#6278
We can combine the main mod file with an "assets" file to implement sounds while preventing the main file from becoming too big.

Also, finally!

aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
August 19 2014 15:50 GMT
#6279
FINALLY! I was about to complain again !
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
August 19 2014 16:16 GMT
#6280
Beastyqt is one of the most infuriatingly boring players to watch, I thought this in sc2 already and it's even more true in starbow.

Also, players aren't good enough yet for these large maps imo. If we accept that 1) in starbow the mechanical requirements scale with the number of bases to a higher degree than sc2; and that 2) players getting massive 7k banks as a general rule represents a degenerate case, and 3) that maps only became larger in bw and sc2 when the pro scene was already established, then I think the natural conclusion is that we need more smaller maps, where third and fourth base are more difficult to take.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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